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02-10-2010, 03:46 PM
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I would say Campbell's contract is worse then Huet
Campbell is overpaid and the length sucks but he performs. So I dont think it belongs in a top 10 of bad contracts.

If he was playing horrid hockey like Redden it would be #1 with a bullet. People complain about his contract but he is a very good hockey player and important part of our team

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02-10-2010, 03:56 PM
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Would it be just rude to point out that our fearless leader, Mr. Lowe, aggresively pursued both Redden and Gomez during the leadup to their UFA status or when they became UFA's?

"Success" in those attempts would give us 3 of the top 5 on this list.

Just saying.
Ugh, I died a little inside after reading that. Combine that with the Nylander catastrophe-that-almost-was, and it makes you want to get some scissors and cut up all of Lowe's credit cards.

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02-10-2010, 04:38 PM
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Ugh, I died a little inside after reading that. Combine that with the Nylander catastrophe-that-almost-was, and it makes you want to get some scissors and cut up all of Lowe's credit cards.
Ah, thank-you. I forgot Nylander. That is just plain bad. Can you imagine the shape we would be in if the team was in a city that players wanted to go to?

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02-10-2010, 05:47 PM
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Campbell is overpaid and the length sucks but he performs. So I dont think it belongs in a top 10 of bad contracts.

If he was playing horrid hockey like Redden it would be #1 with a bullet. People complain about his contract but he is a very good hockey player and important part of our team
With the exception of Finger, all the guys on the list contribute and are all important players on their team. The issue isn't about them being bad players, just that they're overpaid, and in most cases, for too long.

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I'd like to do away with guaranteed contracts and contracts over 5 years. No one cares about the fans apparently.

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02-10-2010, 07:02 PM
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Where's Dipietro and his 100 year contract, Campbell, and Drury
Dipietros cap hit is reasonable and if he decides to retire his cap hit will be gone since he is under 35. Not really a bad contract.

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02-10-2010, 07:07 PM
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i don't think Briere should be #3

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02-10-2010, 07:14 PM
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Dipietro's is worse than anyones...... Has he even played 10 games since he signed that 3 years ago??
I wish horcoff had only played ten games since he signed the contract, at least he wouldnt be able to contribute towards losing and a culture of losing any more than he already has.

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Dipietro's is worse than anyones...... Has he even played 10 games since he signed that 3 years ago??
True enough but at least he is out injured on LTIR for large periods of time which gives teh Isles cap relief (not needed but nice). So I guess we are hoping for career ending injury?

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i don't think Briere should be #3
I agree. I know he's had some injuries but he shows up in the playoffs and from what I've heard is one of those solid, team guys.

I'd love to see the Oilers and Flyers flip players in this case. Put Horc out of his misery here.

Anyone here think he regrets signing that deal?

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What about Drury?

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02-11-2010, 04:20 AM
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Drury should have been number 1. He has Horcoff-ish stats, at 20 points and -13, yet he's making $7 million, all towards the cap. And his contract still has 2 year left on it.

Even if not number 1, he should have been above Horcoff, or at least above Cheechoo. Chris Drury must be a favourite of the writer, to be left off the list completely.

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What about Drury?
Drurys contract is only for two more seasons thats why its not on the list.

Huselius contract aint that bad 3 more seasons at 4,75 for a 60p+ player.

Olesz in Flordia is a bad contract but its back loaded so it will be cheap to buy out.

Reden is the worst contact IMHO he wouldt even play if his cap hit was lower.

We will see next season if Horcoff can get his game back, if not his contract will handcuff the team for a while.

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02-11-2010, 05:03 AM
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Drurys contract is only for two more seasons thats why its not on the list.
They put Cheechoo at number 5, and he only has a year left at $3.5 million. That's not even in the ballpark of Drury at $7 mil. Finger, I believe, only has 2 years left on his contract. So do Liles and Huet, but they made the list.

Wes Goldstein conveniently forgot about Drury, for some unexplainable reason.

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02-11-2010, 09:38 AM
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I find it interesting that the 3 of the 4 worst contracts were handed out by 2 particular GMs. 1&2 Glen Sather, 4 Kevin Lowe. 2 people who were with the Oilers organization during the selling of Gretzky to LA.

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02-11-2010, 01:10 PM
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This is why I'll never understand why people think we need to sign big name FA's every offseason. They generally end up as pretty terrible contracts. I'd much rather we keep cheap role players (Like Glencross and Hejda), and go for value UFAs, filling the rest of our needs through smart trades/drafting.

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02-12-2010, 12:12 AM
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This is why I'll never understand why people think we need to sign big name FA's every offseason. They generally end up as pretty terrible contracts. I'd much rather we keep cheap role players (Like Glencross and Hejda), and go for value UFAs, filling the rest of our needs through smart trades/drafting.
Yes, but your team needs to have a management team that can actually draft/trade well enough to improve your team. The Oilers have only recently drafted well in the last few seasons and as far as trades go... well you can see what the results of that are based on the last decades performance of the club.

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cue a stats blog defending Horcoff in 3...2...1...
Did you see how fast they came? That's the freakin' Bat Signal, man!

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Would it be just rude to point out that our fearless leader, Mr. Lowe, aggresively pursued both Redden and Gomez during the leadup to their UFA status or when they became UFA's?

"Success" in those attempts would give us 3 of the top 5 on this list.

Just saying.
I'm feeling queasy just at the possibility...

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02-12-2010, 03:14 AM
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Ah, thank-you. I forgot Nylander. That is just plain bad. Can you imagine the shape we would be in if the team was in a city that players wanted to go to?
I guess when your management is this inept, sometimes that is a good thing.

I'd probably still prefer us being way over the cap, deciding whether to move Hossa, Heatley, JBo, or Pronger to free up cap space to use to sign Kovalchuk. Now that's a predicament that I'd love to be in right now, relatively speaking.

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Ah, thank-you. I forgot Nylander. That is just plain bad. Can you imagine the shape we would be in if the team was in a city that players wanted to go to?
You also forgot the 4 1st round picks and $7,000,000+/season for Vanek...

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This is why I'll never understand why people think we need to sign big name FA's every offseason. They generally end up as pretty terrible contracts. I'd much rather we keep cheap role players (Like Glencross and Hejda), and go for value UFAs, filling the rest of our needs through smart trades/drafting.
100% agreed.

I don't mind retaining UFA's, but signing top end UFA's (outside of a few very rare occasions, and generally it involves a discount on the players part) is hardly a recipe for success.

The team that signs Kovalchuk, for example, will regret it.

Or if we had been paying Hossa $9,000,000/year.

... his cap hit with Chicago is 5.233

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A few contracts that are missing that should be on there are

Brian Campbell $7.1M until 2015/16
Joffery Lupul $4.2M until 2012/13
Thomas Vanek $7.1M until 2013/14
Tom Gilbert $4M until 2013/14
Ryan Smyth $6.2M until 2011/12
Chris Drury $7M until 2011/12
Jason Spezza $7M until 2014/15
Andy McDonald $4.7M until 2012/13
Vincent Lecavalier $7.7M until 2019/2020


I guess they should have had the top 20 worst contracts.

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I was gonna ask how so?...but I truelly don't want to imagine.
He could be a Minus-32 .....

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