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02-12-2010, 02:06 PM
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Please, PLease, please. I'm read to get down on my knees and blow Murray if he can get Ballard at a reasonable price.
I almost spat coffee everywhere, *******.

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EDIT: when is today's deadline?
7 minutes ago.

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Not if Kuba can be moved.

EDIT: when is today's deadline?
NTC says hi

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Not if Kuba can be moved.

EDIT: when is today's deadline?
Yeah, that's fair.

But, Kuba is better than people around give him credit for and I would hate to be forced to throw him away in an Ehrhoff style deal.

I guess if you're making space for a good young player like Ballard, if softens the blow...

And deadline was 3PM.

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It doesn't next year.

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3pm eastern, so 9 mins ago

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Please, PLease, please. I'm read to get down on my knees and blow Murray if he can get Ballard at a reasonable price.
that is truly awful.

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Yeah, that's fair.

But, Kuba is better than people around give him credit for and I would hate to be forced to throw him away in an Ehrhoff style deal.

I guess if you're making space for a good young player like Ballard, if softens the blow...

And deadline was 3PM.



It doesn't next year.
I wasn't referring to next year

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02-12-2010, 02:43 PM
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So it didn't happen?

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02-12-2010, 02:44 PM
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Ballard is a good defensman, but he's not worth 4.2M, IMO, especially not at the cost of re-signing Volchenkov. Everyone *****es and moans about Kuba's contract, but Ballard's contract is a little worse.

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02-12-2010, 03:00 PM
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Ballard sucks

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02-12-2010, 03:14 PM
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Ballard sucks
Wrong, he isnt playing up to his potential this year but he is a good player. I wish the sens were going after JJ he wants out of L.A and he is a very good player.

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02-12-2010, 03:21 PM
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Please, PLease, please. I'm read to get down on my knees and blow Murray if he can get Ballard at a reasonable price.
I wouldn't go as far (lol), but who would like to face a team in the playoffs that has Phillips, Volchenkov, Ballard and Carkner on defense? No one sane i'll tell you

Might as well give us the Cup

Those who say Ballard sucks really underrate the guy. He is basically a mix of Volchenkov and Phillips, not as good defensively as them but better offensively

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Ballard at 4.2M means good bye Volchenkov next year. No thanks.
Not necessarily...

Not sure what will happen with Cheechoo but let's say he's done in Ottawa and we bury him in the minors (or he's picked on waivers...)

So let's also say Keith Ballard for Chris Kelly, Brian Lee and a pick

2010-2011 Ottawa Senators

FORWARDS

Jason Spezza — $7,000,000
Alexei Kovalev — $5,000,000
Daniel Alfredsson — $4,875,000
Milan Michalek — $4,333,333
Mike Fisher — $4,200,000
Chris Neil — $2,000,000
Jarkko Ruutu — $1,300,000
* Nick Foligno — $850,000
* Peter Regin — $607,000
* Ryan Shannon — $600,000
Zack Smith — $583,333
* Jesse Winchester — $550,000

DEFENSEMEN
Keith Ballard — $4,200,000
Filip Kuba — $3,700,000
Chris Phillips — $3,500,000
* Anton Volchenkov — $2,500,000
Erik Karlsson ($425,000) $1,300,000
Matt Carkner — $700,000
* Chris Campoli — $633,000

GOALTENDERS
Pascal Leclaire — $3,800,000
Brian Elliott — $850,000

BUYOUTS
Ray Emery — $562,500
Daniel Alfredsson — $700,000

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 21
SALARY CAP $56,800,000
PAYROLL $54,344,166
BONUSES $425,000
CAP SPACE $2,880,834


2.88 in cap space but that's not counting Volchenkov's raise. Let's say he gets 4.0, it means there would be 1.38 left for the potential raises of Regin, Foligno, Shannon, Winchester and Campoli... Not sure how much more than today those guys would make on their next contract but for sure that's a tight cap. They are all RFAs and aren't putting great numbers though.

So it will depends on where the Cap goes. Then, Kuba and Leclaire will be the first targets we should look to move out.

But in the end, if that happens, i hope we'd be able to trade Kuba at the draft or in the off-season.

Phillips-Volchenkov
Ballard-Karlsson (wow)
Campoli-Carkner
Cowen?


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02-12-2010, 04:09 PM
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Good defenceman but it will spell the end of volchenkov.


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02-12-2010, 04:16 PM
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Good defenceman but it will spell the end of volchenkov.


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I doubt it. If anything it would spell the end of Kuba in the offseason. If Murray believes Volch to be a core player, he will lock him up.

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I wasn't referring to next year
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