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Was acquiring Shelley a good move?

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02-12-2010, 11:46 PM
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Was acquiring Shelley a good move?

I think its a great move now that we have a true enforcer

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02-12-2010, 11:49 PM
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i think enforcers are useless...so for me, it doesnt really matter. we didnt give up much.

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02-12-2010, 11:53 PM
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it's not horrible. Brashear is gone and that's good. I imagine they will look to move Voros for a pick or in a package deal

he's cheap and UFA

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02-12-2010, 11:54 PM
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I like it .... got a top goon for a garbage pick in a garbage draft year....got to say buh bye to Brash....makes us tougher. Been hearing good things about this guys from SJ fans...good team leader.

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02-12-2010, 11:55 PM
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I think it was a pretty good move. The team needs some veteran leadership and a heavyweight, solves two problems with one person who isnt that expensive. Not thrilled because this team has many more problems but I see it as a step in the right direction.

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Would rather have focused our attention on either:

A- selling and getting back several 2nd round picks for Prospal, Jokinen, Rozsival.

B- If we aren't selling, bring in some quality depth and secondary scoring.

Wasting time improving the 4th line isn't going to matter if we lack top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen.

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02-12-2010, 11:56 PM
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i think its a move that is neither good or bad. its just a move. i like how we can still have the same amount if not a little bit more toughness at a cheaper price (if voros and brashear are done). we did give up a pick but the way i see it we are horrible at drafting and if someone really good falls that low its either a mistake or a coincidence. either way extremly rare.

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02-12-2010, 11:56 PM
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I think it was another nothing move.

Even though Brashear is a useless goof, did the Rangers actually lose anything by him being useless at what would be termed 'enforcing'?
Not really (not talking about the money game here, just the on-ice)

So what do we gain by getting another guy like that.

Yeah, welcome aboard Shelley, another guy I could care less about.


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02-12-2010, 11:57 PM
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Would rather have focused our attention on either:

A- selling and getting back several 2nd round picks for Prospal, Jokinen, Rozsival.

B- If we aren't selling, bring in some quality depth and secondary scoring.

Wasting time improving the 4th line isn't going to matter if we lack top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen.
I dont think Sather is done. If the Rangers lose against TB and lose after the Olympics I would imagine he would be selling. I see this deal as more of a future trade considering the fact that the pick is going to change if he resigns. It is a tryout for next season, does he do what he needs to and get along in the locker room.

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02-13-2010, 12:07 AM
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If it's a 6th pick for a guy that will entertain me plenty for the rest of the season, sure thing.

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It's a pointless move.

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02-13-2010, 01:07 AM
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Not sure why the "Rangers acquire Jody Shelley" thread didn't suffice for this. Anyway...

Yes, it is a good move. There is no downside (gave up nothing; minimal salary; UFA in summer), only upside (reportedly a high character guy; replaces Brashear when he is no longer with us).

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02-13-2010, 01:26 AM
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we are so close to a playoff spot. regardless of what you want, management has an obligation to try to make the playoffs when it is within reach and between now and the trade deadline, i don't see the gap widening enough to put the dagger into the ranger's playoff hopes. that said, I remember something the spEKulator said that after the jokinen trade, the rangers had gained an asset that would play in some trade. jokinen makes no sense so maybe florida or some other team is really high on prust. prust + shelley seems kind of redundant so maybe shelley is in preparation of prust being included in a trade. just a thought.

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02-13-2010, 01:40 AM
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What bother me with that move, as much it's not an expensive one, this is a pick we shouldn't have had to spent. The REAL good move was to sign or trade for a decent enforcer in the off-season. Great move by Sather to land Shelley? Not that great since it's another fix to correct one of his previous mistake. A 6th round pick isn't much, sure, but don't forget we drafted Lundqvist in the 7th... You never know who you can get in later rounds. A cheap transaction but still a waste of a pick.

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02-13-2010, 01:59 AM
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Would rather have focused our attention on either:

A- selling and getting back several 2nd round picks for Prospal, Jokinen, Rozsival.

B- If we aren't selling, bring in some quality depth and secondary scoring.

Wasting time improving the 4th line isn't going to matter if we lack top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen.
yeah if only there were another deadline to make trades this season.. if only..

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02-13-2010, 02:03 AM
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If Shelley wins one fight for us, or steps up to protect a fellow teammate, he'll have contributed more than Brashear.

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02-13-2010, 02:51 AM
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I think shelley is getting a bit old for the role though. I'd rather see our enforcer type roles being filled by guys in the mid-late 20s, very early 30s.

Once you get to the mid-30s, you're getting too old to be fighting people for a living...

espn says the 6th pick is CONDITIONAL though
http://espn.go.com/nhl/players/stats?playerId=1123

But yeah, this move is really nothing. We get a 34 year old goon in exchange for a mostly worthless pick, nothing of high value on either side. And yes, lundqvist was drafted in the 7th round. He's probably the only player ever to be drafted that late and end up being a high quality starting goaltender / 1st liner / 1st pairing D.

We draft ~ 7 players a year, so over the past 5 years we drafted 35 players.

How many players do most fans even know about that we drafted?

Staal, del zotto, stepan, anisimov, dubi, callahan?

We have maybe 4 or 5 other really good prospects in the system that most fans don't really pay much attention to.

Most of those guys are high round picks. After the first 2 rounds, 95% of the remaining players drafted hardly see any NHL time at all. You don't go into a trade thinking "Oh, we're giving up the off chance of getting another lundqvist" when it comes to dealing draft picks. You have to think more along the lines of "we're giving up about a 5% chance to get a decent player"

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02-13-2010, 03:10 AM
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Once you get to the mid-30s, you're getting too old to be fighting people for a living...

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02-13-2010, 03:24 AM
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Is he wearing skates? No, didn't think so.

Who gives a crap about the stupid photo. If it is Jody Shelley, then it means he is in great shape.

If it is not Jody Shelley, then why post some wrestler?

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Jody Shelley --->


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02-13-2010, 03:54 AM
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General rule is 6th round picks don't make it. Jody Shelley should at least give other teams notice that there will be some payback for targeting our best players. Maybe it doesn't mean a lot at this point of the season but even so if nothing else Daniel Carcillo has two guys now--Prust and Shelley--to answer to for mugging Gaborik.

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02-13-2010, 03:59 AM
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Jody Shelley --->

As if I did not know, Zeee Agitator.

Goof


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02-13-2010, 04:46 AM
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Oh zorry, was just to avoid any confusion.

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The Rangers picked up a goon. His age is irrelevant. Whooppee.

While other teams look for skill, Sather believes it is still 20 years ago and thinks we should acquire dinosaurs. A dinosaur brought in a dinosaur.

True, some will be entertained by the new idiot but those folks don't understand the point of the game either.

The deal puts us no closer to winning a Cup and by removing a pick (I don't care what round) he ensures that at least one round of the draft is a dead issue, much like Sather remains a dead issue.

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02-13-2010, 07:09 AM
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Good move.

It was a necessary step in removing Brash's 1.4M from next year's cap.

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