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02-12-2010, 08:40 PM
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Lost both offensive zone faceoffs with the empty net, never got control of the puck, best chance came on Arnott's one-timer from the high slot off a deflection along the boards...

Weber tries to make a quick play with a bouncing puck and a forechecker in his face and simply doesn't get enough of the puck, Langenbrunner skates in for the empty-netter...Devils win 5-2...

Simply got outworked by the Devils in the third...Kovalchuk was Arnott's man coming off the boards there, but Arnott never even attempted to pick him up. Sullivan as the weak-side wing sags deep off his point to provide high slot support and watches Kovalchuk slide into the high slot and simply skates backward away from Kovy...a perfect example of why our top line is horrible in their own end of the ice...

Hamhuis did not deserve the penalty he got - wrong place, iffy call, but you knew that the Devils would score and seal the game on that advantage. Simply a case of hard work paying off with Kovalchuk pinching down the boards to force Erat to chip the puck out to the point, Zajac hustling back to the point to cover for Kovalchuk and keeping the puck in, then the Devils simply realizing the traffic at the net, throwing the puck there and getting a deflection and generating a loose puck to pounce on...game over...

Didn't see the first half of the game, but thought the Predators played relatively well in the second period. Just didn't stay focused and maintain the work ethic in the third period and got burned for it...the Devils play you hard and they play you tight...if you give them the lead...you're likely to walk out of the arena shaking your head at the end of the game...

Major props to Wardo blocking a Kovalchuk one-timer with the side of his head...couldn't believe the refs didn't stop the game right there and even moreso that Ward came back and played the rest of the shift and game...I really hope that they replaced his helmet - it looked like there was an indentation in the plastic where the puck hit him and if so...that helmet is useless for any further protection...

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02-12-2010, 08:44 PM
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Then how do you shake such a "money down the toilet" player? What's his contract look like, can we just fire him?
Ask Ottawa. They just waived Cheechoo today with a year left. Gonna cost them some dough but they got rid of him.

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02-12-2010, 08:45 PM
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Ask Ottawa. They just waive Cheechoo today with a year left. Gonna cost them some dough but they got rid of him.
I will guarantee you he clears waivers and remains on Ottawa's roster...I would even go so far as to say that they put him on re-entry waivers and he clears again. No one will take Cheechoo for another year at even half his salary...

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I will guarantee you he clears waivers and remains on Ottawa's roster...I would even go so far as to say that they put him on re-entry waivers and he clears again. No one will take Cheechoo for another year at even half his salary...
You are correct but they got him off their bench collecting dust. If he clears and comes back he will have a mysterious injury and be gone.

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http://atdhe.net/watch-american-hock...hp?s=madmirals

Admirals and IceHogs (CHI)

IceHogs lead 3-1 at the start of the third...

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02-12-2010, 08:55 PM
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http://atdhe.net/watch-american-hock...hp?s=madmirals

Admirals and IceHogs (CHI)

IceHogs lead 3-1 at the start of the third...


Tonight just sucks.

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02-12-2010, 08:57 PM
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Tonight just sucks.
Jessiman with his 14th of the season converting off a turnover created by Guite right in front of the IceHogs net makes it 3-2...early in the third...

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Wasn't happy with our sloppy play and D zone coverage.

Wasn't happy with the way Rinne looked overall despite some good saves.

That's all i got to say about tonight.

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It is not that I dislike Jones. It is not that I think he is a failure as a player. He just does not fit this team. Trotz just does not have a place for him in this system, and it has been born out over the past few years. I think if you need to move a player to improve this team - you move Jones. If this was Paul Holmgren or Brian Burke, I can guarantee you that this would have already occurred. Poile is a bit more patient, which can be good or bad. I think the time has come, though, to move on from this experiment OR to give him more TOI. Either he needs PP time, third line time, or needs to be on the PK. Otherwise, it just does not make sense.
Agreed 100 percent. I've been saying for awhile now he will either be traded before the deadline or during the offseason. We don't want to pay him almost a mill to play 3 minutes a night. I think if we didn't have Hornqvist he would get a better shot but it's just not gonna happen.

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02-12-2010, 09:17 PM
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Ryan Jones - 3 minutes tonight. Trade him. It just does not make sense to put a guy that needs powerplay time and scorers with Wade Belak. He can't create. He needs to be the net guy, and he is not going to be that guy on this team with Hornqvist's emergence.

Trotz doesn't trust him. He is not good enough for specialty teams. It is time to move him in a deal.

I love Jones but i couldn't agree more with ya

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well that sucked. Im too tired/disappointed to really comment much else. maybe tomorrow.

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Ryan Jones - 3 minutes tonight. Trade him. It just does not make sense to put a guy that needs powerplay time and scorers with Wade Belak. He can't create. He needs to be the net guy, and he is not going to be that guy on this team with Hornqvist's emergence.

Trotz doesn't trust him. He is not good enough for specialty teams. It is time to move him in a deal.
I guess I'm the only person that hugely disagrees with this. What exactly can we get back for Jones? I don't think we can get anything that will help us get a playoff spot or win a series. If we package him with say hammer or ellis who fills his spot? Spaling, Thureson. I'm not willing to give up his 15 goals a season from the 4th line for another PK specialist. Our wing is one of our worst spots prospects wise. We're set for centers. I'm sure a trade would benefit Jones, but I don't see how it benefits the team. If we're gonna give Toots the contract he got and Jones is gonna out score him, I have to say a trade without a solid piece coming back would be a bad idea. And I don't see us getting it for him.

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I say giving a guy a million bucks for 3 minutes a night is a waste. Give him more ice-time or cut your losses. We don't have the budget to have guys that are not fitting out system, languish on the bench. That million dollars is more like 1.5 million to other teams. As I said in my second post, we need to either put in the effort to develop him or ship him off. 3 minutes a night is not going to cut it.

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So...go into the third tied, having generally played well so far, even killing a big 5-on-3. And yet don't put one single shot on goal until almost 10 minutes into the third. Well that sure will get you a win everytime.



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... then the Devils simply realizing the traffic at the net, throwing the puck there and getting a deflection and generating a loose puck to pounce on...game over...
Seems so simple doesn't it? We would have made a pass.

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Didn't see the first half of the game, but thought the Predators played relatively well in the second period. Just didn't stay focused and maintain the work ethic in the third period and got burned for it.........
I don't get why this team has such a problem working hard for 60 minutes. There is always one period that they seem to slack off and get burned for 2 or more goals.

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Plain and simple. We need some goal scoreres. For a while there, I thought we found it in Hornz. But he hasn't showed up ina few weeks. We should of made a trade for goal scorer, I guess I'm going to have to be patient. And I need to stop watching games.
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Plain and simple. We need some goal scoreres. For a while there, I thought we found it in Hornz. But he hasn't showed up ina few weeks. We should of made a trade for goal scorer, I guess I'm going to have to be patient. And I need to stop watching games.
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Give Hornz a bit of a break. Some of the highest paid goal scorers in the league have longer slumps than this! I do agree that we need more offense.....how about Arnott, Sullivan, Erat and Legwand pulling up some of the slack!

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Reading these posts it sounds like most of the fan base ended up doing a drum solo on their desk with their heads. Well, the opening cerimonies was a fail, the recent level of play by the Preds has been disapointing and frankly I just hope we can enjoy the Olympic break and no one from the Preds get's hurt.

Trade deadline in less than 3 weeks away. Part of me is wondering if Sully and Arnott are availible to trade if NTCs are waived?

Nashville is 7th in the west with one game in hand over Calgary. Colorado has 76 points, Nashville 69 and Calgary 67. It's not a great position, but it's a little bit more comfortable than most think.

Any (Known) injuries that this break is going to help?

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i would be willing to bet a george washington that this break helps arnott's elbow, smithsons back, sullys legs, dumonts head, ward's groin , etc. i would bet everyone has ome sort of nick and bruise. but so does every team.

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I say giving a guy a million bucks for 3 minutes a night is a waste. Give him more ice-time or cut your losses. We don't have the budget to have guys that are not fitting out system, languish on the bench. That million dollars is more like 1.5 million to other teams. As I said in my second post, we need to either put in the effort to develop him or ship him off. 3 minutes a night is not going to cut it.
Anyone willing to bet we try to send him to Milwaukee only to be claimed on waivers by someone?

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Anyone willing to bet we try to send him to Milwaukee only to be claimed on waivers by someone?
No, I highly doubt that...I would bet against that as a matter of fact...

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With the exception of zooming in on the kid doing cartwheels over the prairies, I liked the opening ceremonies. Those orca's kicked ass.

The game, not so much.

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Give Hornz a bit of a break. Some of the highest paid goal scorers in the league have longer slumps than this! I do agree that we need more offense.....how about Arnott, Sullivan, Erat and Legwand pulling up some of the slack!
I agree with everything you just said. I was just upset over the loss, and blamed one player. Your right, there are some other "goal scorers" that need to play like there payed.

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All of these losses are disappointing, some much more than others. But I don't have one specific player to blame (besides Hamhuis, he's done a lot of damage ), the whole team has seemed to be half-assing it every night. I don't even remember what game it was, one of the ones on our five game losing streak, where we actually played totally solid. The D men were completely on top of the other guys, our offense was shooting pucks at the net, we were skating hard and fast, our goaltender was making some good saves, and we still lost. But then other games (most other games), we aren't skating very hard or doing any of the things I just mentioned, and like I said, I see it in the whole team. We are losing as a team, one player is not solely killing us. We can play for 60 minutes and I just can't comprehend why we don't more often.

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OK, since Glennon lambasted Trotz in his "post-game ponderings" blog after the game about starting Rinne on Wednesday...I figure it's only appropriate that I make sure to include his update buried deep inside his blog today...

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Trotz said he considered starting Ellis on Friday against New Jersey, but that Ellis had slightly strained his back in Wednesday’s win over the New York Rangers. Ellis stopped 37-of-38 shots in that contest.
http://blogs.tennessean.com/predator...likely-in-net/

When called out on it in the comments, Glennon actually has the nerve to defend himself by saying that he didn't know because he's not on the trip...not our problem! He knew he wasn't going on this trip long before this past week...figure something out to check your facts before you stir up the fan base, berate Trotz, and essentially dis Rinne!!!

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OK, since Glennon lambasted Trotz in his "post-game ponderings" blog after the game about starting Rinne on Wednesday...I figure it's only appropriate that I make sure to include his update buried deep inside his blog today...



http://blogs.tennessean.com/predator...likely-in-net/

When called out on it in the comments, Glennon actually has the nerve to defend himself by saying that he didn't know because he's not on the trip...not our problem! He knew he wasn't going on this trip long before this past week...figure something out to check your facts before you stir up the fan base, berate Trotz, and essentially dis Rinne!!!
I don't fault Glennon for any of that. It appeared to everyone that Rinne was starting, in spite of a great performance by Ellis the previous game, and it was made worse by Rinne costing us the game with two goals that 27 of 30 goalies stop. He had no explanation for it, and neither did we, and I'm glad someone in the Nashville media is holding the coaching staff accountable--it's the first time since our inaugural game that anyone has had the marbles to do so.

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