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Canadian lines (Who do you want to play with Crosby?)

View Poll Results: Who should be with Crosby?
Nash 87 48.33%
Iginla 108 60.00%
Bergeron 12 6.67%
Toews 40 22.22%
Marleau 12 6.67%
Staal 41 22.78%
Heatley 38 21.11%
Richards 10 5.56%
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02-16-2010, 12:51 AM
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Why is Mike Richards not playing? He's better than Bergeron, Morrow, Toews and he's arguably Canada's best defensive forward. Some one explain this to me.
He is. Every skater is dressed every game... These "lines" are guidelines, the 13th forward isn't gonna go out there alone. Babcock has already said nobody will sit, everyone plays.

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02-16-2010, 12:53 AM
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ie, we may see a lot of fluid line combinations, with different people taking shifts off and one of the 4 '4th liners' filling in. The fact that players like richards and morrow will probably get PK time will end up evening out the ice time as well.

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1st power play unit that was reported on tsn today

Richards Crosby Nash

Pronger Doughty

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1st power play unit that was reported on tsn today

Richards Crosby Nash

Pronger Doughty
why is nash on the right side?

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why is nash on the right side?
Because he is a left shot, thus, his forehand is towards the middle of the ice, thus giving him a better angle to take shots and also allowing the cross ice one timer. Not to mention, he's largely a RW this year for Columbus.

The real question is, why is Richards there? I don't like Iginla playing with Crosby and Nash (or Staal) even strength, but he'd be a much better fit on the PP.

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Anybody else looking forward to seeing Staal rip this tourney a new *******?.

I don't think there is one player on that team, that is a PURE pressure player like Eric Stall.

The guy can be average in the regular season, then turn into a gift from god in the playoffs.

I expect a huge tourney from him.

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02-16-2010, 01:25 AM
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glad Getzlaf's ankle is fine. i think he's going to have a huge tournament.

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02-16-2010, 01:54 AM
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Agreed.

You throw anyone of those players on Sid's wing and they'll form chemistry in a split second.
then why not put someone more talented than bergeron there? Ig Crosby can generate chemistry with anyone in a split second why are they relying on past chemistry

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I'd be very suprised actually. Crosby's 56.7% VS. Bergeron's 57.4% isn't a huge difference.... especially since Crosby has taken 400 more draws.

Edit: Unless Crosby gets kicked out of the dot that is.
not it's not a huge difference... but with one being a right handed shot and the other a left and virtually every player being better at faceoffs on their backhand... you go from having 2 56-57% centermen to having 2 at over 60%

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Stamkos has been on fire. Bergeron should have never made the team.
Stevie Y. was actually in Boston to scout Stamkos and St. Louis and left the game raving about Bergeron. He lead two horrendous Bruins teams in goals and point two years in a row, his rookie season he played in the world championship, next year MVP at the world juniors, and the year after the lockout he finish second behind Crosby for points leader on the world championship team. Even Recchi who has played with many great players over his long career has said Patrice is the best center he has ever played with. Yes his stats this year are low but since his rookie year he has been developing into if not the best one of the best all around players in the game. Because of this he plays against opponents top lines every game and is saddled with more defensive wingers. Show me Stamkos's points totals and plus/minus playing every shift against his opponents top line without St. Louis. Please just watch him play and you will notice him all over the ice all game long. I promise you, you will not be disappointed.

P.S.- Even though I am American I am rooting for Canada. I already love Canada but the mere fact the Mike Komisarek was named to the USA team, even though he's injured and isn't playing, makes me want to denounce my citizenship and make the 7 hour trip to the border from Rhode Island permanent.

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Staal - Getzlaf - Perry

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looking good, obviously like the san jose line, and the staal/getzlaf/perry line is just disgusting (that means good).

i can definitely see a couple shifts on the crosby line, like iginla moving up from time to time to rotate with bergeron, as well as richards on the left side rotating with nash..

now in these tournaments because they are so dense, you really gotta see what clicks and be consistent. i gotta believe that crosby will be between nash and iginla for the most part, and the energy line will rotate with richards / toews / bergeron (imo a deadly line that other teams will underestimate offensively), then morrow / toews / bergeron


but then again, you could go with richards / crosby / iginla and nash / toews / bergeron, both good

i like this team

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i gotta believe that crosby will be between nash and iginla for the most part, and the energy line will rotate with richards / toews / bergeron (imo a deadly line that other teams will underestimate offensively), then morrow / toews / bergeron
That's what I'm thinking as well.

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1st power play unit that was reported on tsn today

Richards Crosby Nash

Pronger Doughty
All three forwards are left hand shot. I dont like that especially on a power play; Canada needs to put in a right hand shot on the left wing so they can be in position for a one timer from the half boards. It's extremely difficult to shot from left half boards with a left hand shot and actually score. I think team Canada will need to add in a right hand side, most likely Getzlaf or Iginla.

Here is how I would like to see the Team Canada powerplay units.

Getzlaf Crosby Nash
Doughty Pronger

Iginla Thornton Heatley

I think having Heatley on the power play will be the key, he's always buzzing around the net, he can score with a one timer from the half boards, he can go downlow for the cross crease pass or he can score a garbage goals. He's actually one of the better players on the powerplay.

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PP units will be

Richards- Crosby- Nash
Perry- Getzlaf- Staal
Marleau- Thornton- Heatley

Pronger- Doughty
Boyle- Weber

per McKenzie.

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PP units will be

Richards- Crosby- Nash
Perry- Getzlaf- Staal
Marleau- Thornton- Heatley

Pronger- Doughty
Boyle- Weber

per McKenzie.
suprised to see Richards on the PP, doesn't he play at the point for Flyers some times?

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suprised to see Richards on the PP, doesn't he play at the point for Flyers some times?
Sometimes.

Getzlaf and Staal can play on point too.

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I don't expect to see any forwards playing the point for Canada.

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suprised to see Richards on the PP, doesn't he play at the point for Flyers some times?
He has played the point in the past, but with the aquisition of Pronger he's played down low about 95%
of the time this year.

As for why he's on the power play for Canada ... Because he excells on both the PP and PK.

At last look I believe he was 4th in the league in PP goals.

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Even Recchi who has played with many great players over his long career has said Patrice is the best center he has ever played with.
It's called hyperbole, just like Gretzky naming about 15 different goalies as "the toughest I've ever faced."

A vet being kind to a good young kid.

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He has played the point in the past, but with the aquisition of Pronger he's played down low about 95%
of the time this year.

As for why he's on the power play for Canada ... Because he excells on both the PP and PK.

At last look I believe he was 4th in the league in PP goals.
Thanks for Info, I was expecting to see Iginla on the top PP unit and because of Richards being one of the main PKers that he'd be logging less PP time.

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All three forwards are left hand shot. I dont like that especially on a power play; Canada needs to put in a right hand shot on the left wing so they can be in position for a one timer from the half boards. It's extremely difficult to shot from left half boards with a left hand shot and actually score. I think team Canada will need to add in a right hand side, most likely Getzlaf or Iginla.

Here is how I would like to see the Team Canada powerplay units.

Getzlaf Crosby Nash
Doughty Pronger

Iginla Thornton Heatley

I think having Heatley on the power play will be the key, he's always buzzing around the net, he can score with a one timer from the half boards, he can go downlow for the cross crease pass or he can score a garbage goals. He's actually one of the better players on the powerplay.
Exactly right.

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All three forwards are left hand shot. I dont like that especially on a power play; Canada needs to put in a right hand shot on the left wing so they can be in position for a one timer from the half boards. It's extremely difficult to shot from left half boards with a left hand shot and actually score. I think team Canada will need to add in a right hand side, most likely Getzlaf or Iginla.

Here is how I would like to see the Team Canada powerplay units.

Getzlaf Crosby Nash
Doughty Pronger

Iginla Thornton Heatley

I think having Heatley on the power play will be the key, he's always buzzing around the net, he can score with a one timer from the half boards, he can go downlow for the cross crease pass or he can score a garbage goals. He's actually one of the better players on the powerplay.
Totally agree - I'd even prefer seeing Corey Perry on one of the PP units instead of Richards. He's one of the best in the crease area - taking abuse in front of the net, tipping point shots, and collecting rebounds. Plus, he's skilled enough that he can move up to the slot and bury the feeds from Crosby and Nash.

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1st power play unit that was reported on tsn today

Richards Crosby Nash

Pronger Doughty
Richards is a pretty underrated passer, IMO. For some reason every time I watch the Flyers, they seem to score on the PP from a Richards backdoor pass. Plus, he'll do a good job at winning and maintaining possession..

Still, this PP does not look very scary, at least on paper. Except for Crosby, none of these guys would be even considered for the Russian PP, for instance...

On the other hand, none of the Russians would be considered for Team Canada's PK... so I guess a pretty even match-up overall.

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Totally agree - I'd even prefer seeing Corey Perry on one of the PP units instead of Richards. He's one of the best in the crease area - taking abuse in front of the net, tipping point shots, and collecting rebounds. Plus, he's skilled enough that he can move up to the slot and bury the feeds from Crosby and Nash.
Top Canadian power play goal scorers so for this seaon, and their NHL rank:

2. Heatley - 14
4. Richards - 13
5. Crosby - 12
8. Marleau - 11
13. Staal - 10
17. Nash - 9


Other Team Canada forwards and number of PP goals scored

Iginla - 8
Toews - 7
Getzlaf - 7
Morrow - 6
Perry - 4
Thornton - 3
Bergeron - 0


Now for power play points and their rank amongst NHL forwards

5. Thornton - 25
8. Richards - 24
14. Heatley - 23
14. Crosby - 23
19. Getzlaf - 21
25. Nash - 20
25. Staal - 20
28. Marleau - 19
30. Iginla - 18
56. Perry - 15
56. Toews - 15
74. Morrow - 13
167. Bergeron - 7


I think these numbers make it quite clear why Richards should get plenty of PP time. Second on the team in both PP goals and points

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CTV listed Morrow - Toews - Iginla as the 3rd line tonight.
Actually this was just listed.

Richards-Toews-Iginla

Morrow-alternate.

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