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02-23-2010, 06:26 PM
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"Playing With Fire" By Theo Fleury DISCUSSION

I just finished reading Theo Fleury's book, Playing With Fire. It was a great read and interesting because he talks a lot about how he was and give a lot of inside to other NHL players. I recommend anyone who likes hockey to read it!

He mentions a game where he played against Avery and Avery's comments were very personal, such as his drug problems, it was kind of interesting, since we always wonder about what Avery is saying, there's some information in the book.

I really am interested in what other people have thought of the book.

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I just finished reading Theo Fleury's book, Playing With Fire. It was a great read and interesting because he talks a lot about how he was and give a lot of inside to other NHL players. I recommend anyone who likes hockey to read it!

He mentions a game where he played against Avery and Avery's comments were very personal, such as his drug problems, it was kind of interesting, since we always wonder about what Avery is saying, there's some information in the book.

I really am interested in what other people have thought of the book.
I actually found his comments about Avery hypocritical seeing as Fleury made it point to write about how heckled Keenen about his drunk driving

Otherwise though, I loved the book.

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I actually found his comments about Avery hypocritical seeing as Fleury made it point to write about how heckled Keenen about his drunk driving

Otherwise though, I loved the book.
haha yeah, that was comical...I do agree with him on saying the coaches shouldn't say anything to opposing players, if the game gets heated coaches should say things to opposing coaches.

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I wouldn't be surprised Avery commenting about peoples drug problem.

I'd probably do the same if I was in Avery's shoes. It's not like you didn't have any control over getting addicted -- you chose to blow coke (or whatever) -- you pay the price and someone can ridicule you.

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I'd like to read it...anyone wanna sell their copy?

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I'd like to read it...anyone wanna sell their copy?
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fantastic read, really interesting what he had to say about the new york rangers. particularly how other teams he played for were very tight nit, couldnt sneeze without your teammates knowing, and he comes to new york and its a team full of mercenaries and no camaraderie. wonder when this started happening, and if its still going on? pretty evident the lack of brotherhood when you look at the messier days and then the dark ages. i get the sense that big money wade redden who plays with no heart on the ice, doesn't hang with the guys off the ice. you know voros avery and hank hang out a lot together, i wonder what about the rest of the guys.....

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On my "books-to-buy" list for a while...

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I heard ALOT of people who aren't flames/ranger fans really hated this book for one reason or another. Kind of like avery

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I haven't finished reading it, but as a hockey player and a fan of the game, it's an awesome book and I would recommend it to all you guys.

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I was kinda of amazed of how Theo is still loved by Ranger fans. I mean I knew Fans Liked him a whole lot, but at the book signing at Borders in NYC the place was jammed.

I also interviewed Theo about the book and he got into it pretty good about some ranger stuff that was left out.

For some reason him saying Eric Lindros was guy who gave it his all, every night as a Ranger sticks in my mind and the most memorable quote which I dont know if is in the book or not, his quote about Alexander Daigle " All the Tools, but no tool box."

it's a great read and the twisted irony is that this graham james cretin is out of jail and coaching youngsters in europe.

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I have to say even as an Islander fan I miss ol' Crackhead Theo. There is no one to hate anymore within this so called "rivalry". Who can forget Fleury clucking like a chicken at Eric Cairns? Classic stuff.

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I was kinda of amazed of how Theo is still loved by Ranger fans. I mean I knew Fans Liked him a whole lot, but at the book signing at Borders in NYC the place was jammed.

I also interviewed Theo about the book and he got into it pretty good about some ranger stuff that was left out.

For some reason him saying Eric Lindros was guy who gave it his all, every night as a Ranger sticks in my mind and the most memorable quote which I dont know if is in the book or not, his quote about Alexander Daigle " All the Tools, but no tool box."

it's a great read and the twisted irony is that this graham james cretin is out of jail and coaching youngsters in europe.
I remember that interview, heh.

As far as James, that's still horrifying to me. Last (credible) thing I heard, he was actually back in Canada, not coaching. A few years back, the Canadians complained to Spain that he was being allowed to coach there. Not sure what happened with that.

I always loved Theo. On one hand, I admired his play, while on the other, I almost pitied him. But substance abuse is a *****, I know this first hand. That he's now clean and sober makes me so proud. My signed Theo poster is one of my favorite possessions.

I'll definitely be picking up a copy of the book.

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I quit drinking about 18 months and i have never done drugs, but this book is a little disorienting because you feel like you are there with him. And at the end I was like, wow, glad I don't drink any more, but on the other hand I wonder how things would work out if I went to a strip club with a stack of cash and got loaded right now. I was in NY at 2am on a tuesday, it was an option.

Substance abuse is a *****, and it is kind of amazing how long he delivered on the ice for while he was destroying his body and all his personal relationships. The top professional athletes are just on a different plane.

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One of my favorite books, I wrote my own journal/auto bio as well and the way him and I think are so uncanny. I love Theo and will always keep him in my heart when I play, live life,or face obstacles.

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Great book! I really enjoyed getting inside the Canada/Russia brawl.

Theo was a pretty **** up little dude!

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I remember that interview, heh.

As far as James, that's still horrifying to me. Last (credible) thing I heard, he was actually back in Canada, not coaching. A few years back, the Canadians complained to Spain that he was being allowed to coach there. Not sure what happened with that.

I always loved Theo. On one hand, I admired his play, while on the other, I almost pitied him. But substance abuse is a *****, I know this first hand. That he's now clean and sober makes me so proud. My signed Theo poster is one of my favorite possessions.

I'll definitely be picking up a copy of the book.
TSN or CBC ran a piece on James a while back, they found him living in a foreign country (Brazil? Mexico? I don't recall.) basically in hiding. He's not coaching, at least not based on that piece.

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Absolutely fantastic book. I love how he wrote it as if you and him were just sitting at a bar or restaurant somewhere and he was just talking. His stories were incredible.

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Did he talk about doing drugs in Chicago projects with crackheads?

How much did he talk about his time in Chicago ,,,, He was an embarrassment to organization and fans

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I was right, it was Mexico. Here's a link to the video.

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.ph...und_in_mexico/

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No wonder Avery's mouth is so effective.

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fantastic read, really interesting what he had to say about the new york rangers. particularly how other teams he played for were very tight nit, couldnt sneeze without your teammates knowing, and he comes to new york and its a team full of mercenaries and no camaraderie. wonder when this started happening, and if its still going on? pretty evident the lack of brotherhood when you look at the messier days and then the dark ages. i get the sense that big money wade redden who plays with no heart on the ice, doesn't hang with the guys off the ice. you know voros avery and hank hang out a lot together, i wonder what about the rest of the guys.....
I think it really started around the 95-96 season. The team sold off a lot of assets to win the cup (and we can argue about whether they needed to) and they had to keep trading or bringing in guys to sustain the success. The worse the system and scouting became, the more guys they needed to bring in.

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Does Fleury go into specifics about why he struggled so much early on with the Rangers? The first year he played in New York, that 1999-2000 Rangers team was an utter disaster. Leetch missed 30+ games that year. And they were picking up guys off the scrap heap like Daigle. It's a good thing I didn't watch many games that year (roommates in college weren't hockey fans), because I don't know if I could have stomached it.

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A little over halfway through, and I just can't find the time to finish it. Excellent book though, really gotta pick it up again soon.

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