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02-24-2010, 08:23 PM
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I dont think this statement is at all accurate. Mind you i obviously have no data to back it up, but in every league i have played in i have never seen a correlation between being rh and shooting rh and being "weaker".
Stick handling and poke checking, you see a big difference in beginner adults (often in beginner children too). I admit, I have seen 2 exceptions to this, but that's out of dozens. It's simply unfair to make beginners put their dominant hand on the bottom, they have a far tougher time, generally speaking. I cannot mention the number of right handed people who are otherwise competent players, but have huge problems with stickhandling, even after 4-5 years of playing. This just usually doesn't happen with right handed people who shoot LH, again, I have seen 1 exception to this.

Use your freaking brains, people. If you are strongly right hand dominant, you are less flexible, dexterous and strong with your left arm. Think of it, do you want the more flexible, stronger and hand associated with fine motor movement at the top or bottom? There's also neurological sense behind this, as a large majority of right handed people are left brained, get it now?

Here are links in advance, go read and learn. http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/split.html http://www.nutramed.com/brain/rightleft.htm "Damage or disease in the left hemisphere shows up in the right side of the body and visa versa. The left hemisphere tends to be dominant in terms of hand use and language storage in about 92% of humans. You determine dominance by watching which hand holds a pen and does more of the fine motor skills. The dominant side of the body also tends to be larger than the non-dominant side. About 4% of humans have right hemisphere dominance and another 4% are in the middle with more or less symmetrical hemispheric function.

The human hand is remarkably adaptable and the brain systems that control hand movements are more remarkable. Human hands hold tools, gesture, express feelings and meanings. Two hands work together in most tasks. This means that the two hemispheres work together by sending signals back and forth through a massive bundle of wires, the corpus callosum. In normal people, the left and right hemispheres form integrated operating systems that are often tightly coordinated as in walking, running, and tool use. Clumsy people are less coordinated and some have distinct difficulty achieving left and right cooperation.

The dominant hand leads the nondominant hand by 15 to 30 milli-seconds when coordinated movements are performed."

Is that clear enough? Not to say you can't succeed with the strong hand on the bottom, it's just a good bit tougher to do so for most people.


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You can learn either way. This is such a moot topic.

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The dominant hand leads the nondominant hand by 15 to 30 milli-seconds when coordinated movements are performed."

Is that clear enough? Not to say you can't succeed with the strong hand on the bottom, it's just a good bit tougher to do so for most people.

It's a wonder we can walk since there's such a major difference side to side. That 15 - 30 milli-seconds would have a HUGE affect on puckhandling.

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Use your freaking brains, people. If you are strongly right hand dominant, you are less flexible, dexterous and strong with your left arm. Think of it, do you want the more flexible, stronger and hand associated with fine motor movement at the top or bottom? There's also neurological sense behind this, as a large majority of right handed people are left brained, get it now?
Bottom, i dont toe drag with the top hand, i dont move the puck forehand to backhand with the top hand etc etc

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When I was very young, my dad gave me a straight hockey stick. Based on whichever way was more comfortable/natural motion will help determine which way you shoot, at least for me thats how it was.

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I'm right handed but I do everything lefty. Hockey, baseball (right hand on the bottom of the bat), golf, it just seems better for me.

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Wanna know somethin funny? I write with my right hand yet am a right handed shooter. I also notice that I have excelled very fast for a player of only a little over a year and the control I feel I have with my left hand at top is strong, quick, and very soft which works perfectly for me at the top of my stick. I can play great defense with just my left hand on the stick, I can handle the puck with just one hand, heck sometimes I can even have a nice lil pass with just one hand(if the person isnt too far away hah).

My point is, there is no real competitive advantage choosing to shoot left if you write right also. Ya, you posted scientific facts about dominate hands, good job. Does that take in to account the possibly millions of variables that go into what makes a player better/more comfortable with certain side sticks? Nope.

Just from your personal experiences of watching C league players does not give you the right to state all this as facts to why its SUPERIOR to choose your way.

Whatever a player is comfortable with is what the player should go with. Now WHY a player is comfortable that way, can have a million different answers.

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Bottom, i dont toe drag with the top hand, i dont move the puck forehand to backhand with the top hand etc etc
also another great point^

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Bottom, i dont toe drag with the top hand, i dont move the puck forehand to backhand with the top hand etc etc
Uh, you can also spear a fish with an arrow instead of reeling it in on a hook, but which is more precise? Using the bottom hand to stickhandle will get you into trouble soon enough, it limits your ability to keep one hand on the stick normally and will cost you skating speed as a result.


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Uh, then you're doing it wrong. Using the bottom hand for a toe-drag really hurts your stick handling radius. The reason why the toe-drag is often called the pull-in move is because it's supposed to be way out wide of you, then you pull it in with the toe. Check out some NHL highlight videos and you'll see what I mean. Lecavalier is an excellent example.
Has always worked fine, i prefer not to have my top hand moving around to often so i can load at any given time. Too really split hairs obviously both hands are moving, i control with my bottom

PS have never heard it called a "pull in" (not saying certain areas use this term) and any time you drag the puck with the toe it is a toe drag whether it is wide or shallow, not every toe drags requires you to bring the puck out wide.

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Has always worked fine, i prefer not to have my top hand moving around to often so i can load at any given time. Too really split hairs obviously both hands are moving, i control with my bottom

PS have never heard it called a "pull in" (not saying certain areas use this term) and any time you drag the puck with the toe it is a toe drag whether it is wide or shallow, not every toe drags requires you to bring the puck out wide.
Ok, but you know using the bottom hand to stickhandle is bad for you, right? It can negatively affect your skating and shooting. Guys, I'm not making any of this up. Go hire a coach, let's say a former professional player, to help you improve, and see what they say about this stuff.

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I doubt all the great right handed Russian hockey players are left handed in daily life. I'm right handed and I shoot right. Stickhandling has always been the least of my problems. I bat right and play golf right. This makes no sense, just go with what you're comfortable.

Look at hockey pro Mario Lemieux, a RH shot signing an autograph:



Look at the hand he's using.

Here's Ilya Kovalchuk:



Damn that guy can't handle the puck.


Oh, let's not forget stone hands Ovechkin:


It's honestly a wonder how Semin even does it, imagine what a stickhandling god he'd be if he didn't:



All these guys also have or had subpar skating and shots. Definitely not the best by far in the league, no sir.

Moral of the story anyone?


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Ok, but you know using the bottom hand to stickhandle is bad for you, right? It can negatively affect your skating and shooting. Guys, I'm not making any of this up. Go hire a coach, let's say a former professional player, to help you improve, and see what they say about this stuff.
dude, i played major midget, Junior A and MJ, i went undrafted but i earned a paycheck for two years playing hockey. I have played Senior A for 7 years and played 1 year of MHL AAA. I have had plenty of great coaches. So no using my bottom hand was not bad for me. I would not be in the NHL or AHL right now if i shot Lefty.

PS The reason why i got as far as i did in competitive hockey was because of my stick handling and the quickness i could release a shot hence NOT moving my top hand around too much so i am always ready to load without having to reposition as greatly as if my top hand was everywhere.

PPS I hope you can see why i dont buy this theory based off of watching C league players.


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when i was a kid i started with one of those old school plastic street hockey sticks from the 80s with the straight curve. i ended up feeling more comfortable playing right handed, it felt much more natural. left handed always felt weird for me.

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Guys, I'm not making any of this up.
Pretty sure it's a lot closer to your opinion than fact. But please, quote some sources that back this up, would love to see it.

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I wonder if how I play guitar has any influence on what feels comfortable when holding a hockey stick?

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I wonder if how I play guitar has any influence on what feels comfortable when holding a hockey stick?
It just may...as I said earlier there is really endless variables that result in what side stick ppl choose to use. It could even come down to what hand you used most to play notes on the flute ! Or what hand you grew up brushing your teeth with....endless....

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I write and shoot right handed. I tried playing left handed in pick up just for the hell of it. My passes sucked, and my shot wouldn't cut it in peewee's using left. On right hand things just feel right. I can snipe the puck, let off quick passes and able to stick handle pretty well. Its all about prefrence really. If it feels really akward trying to play right handed, you will probably do much better left. And Vice versa. Doesn't matter what is your dominate hand or not.

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I wonder if how I play guitar has any influence on what feels comfortable when holding a hockey stick?
I don't think it would. Playing guitar involves a lot of fine motor skills with your fingers and wrists, whereas using a hockey stick is more of a full-body activity. Maybe you have great dexterity in your left hand but lots of power in your right arm, who knows how it would work out...

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I don't think it would. Playing guitar involves a lot of fine motor skills with your fingers and wrists, whereas using a hockey stick is more of a full-body activity. Maybe you have great dexterity in your left hand but lots of power in your right arm, who knows how it would work out...
True. The funny thing is, I always felt comfortable playing guitar left handed. But when I went to the store to buy my first guitar, the sales guy told me that I should really try to play right handed because the majority of guitars are made that way and unless you want an expensive road ahead, you should learn to play the "standard" way. Now of course, after 9 years of playing, right handed feels perfect, but I think it's just what I got used to. Same with a hockey stick... don't think it matters what's "right" or "wrong," it's just what you get used to.

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I'm right handed with everything-golf,baseball,writing. But with hockey I have to go lefty. I remember as a kid getting a hockey stick in some discount store and it was a left handed stick. I pretty much trained myself I think to adapt. But I almost think it would have ended up that way anyways. Trying to shoot righty almost seems too weird for me to try. Just doesn't seem to be a comfortable motion to me. And its kind of odd how I can play golf right handed but not shoot hockey right handed. Guess its all in the motions, your not gonna pull the hockey stick up as high as you would a golf club and all.

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It's "normal" for right handed people to play with their right hand on top. A left stick ist not called left because it's meant for lefties. It's because you shot on your left side. Some right-handed people will choose to play with a right stick and that's ok. Left-handers often will pick a right stick.

I posted some stats here:
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=722886

This year's entry rosters of the U20 World Championships: shooting or catching left/total number of players per team:
CAN 14/22=64%
CZE 18/29=62%
FIN 20/26=77%
RUS 27/30=90%
SVK 23/30=77%
SWE 22/30=73%
SWI 16/30=53%
USA 16/30=53%

Average 68%

Source: http://www.iihf.com/channels0910/wm20
Not representative, but lefties are more common.

NHL: of the 795 (797 total, but two of them have no indication L/R) players currently in the NHL, 522 shoot left, i.e. 66%.
Source: http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...&viewName=bios

Some more about the NHL:
L Defensemen: 187/267=70%
L Centers: 159/217=73%
L RW:39/155=25%
L LW: 140/157=89%
L Goalies: 60/68=88%

source: http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...ame=goalieBios

88% for goalies is quite surprising. Seems to correspond to the ratio righthanded/lefthanded of the population. Maybe they are not influenced by baseball. Only 1 goalie of the 11 US goalies catches right. 68 is a small number and might not be significant.

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And from the olympics:
http://www.iihf.com/channels10/olymp...tatistics.html

L/R players and goalies:

BLR 3/23 87%
CAN 8/23 65%
CZE 6/23 74%
FIN 5/23 78%
GER 8/23 65%
LAT 5/23 78%
NOR 5/23 78%
RUS 3/23 87%
SUI 7/23 70%
SVK 3/23 87%
SWE 4/23 82%
USA 11/23 52%

Average: 75% lefties

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I'm right-handed and am thinking of buying a stick and some skates and getting into some pickup games at the local rink.

Can't decide if lefty or righty shot feels better. As far as stick handling goes, lefty shot feels better because the dominant hand is on top. My right hand has no problem controlling the entire stick if I use it one-handed. However, shooting right gives me a lot more power.

I figure I might force myself to play left and build the strength up. I bat right and golf right, but in a pickup game I'd be more worried about stick control then shot power. However, if I wanted stronger passes and a better shot, I could manage much better with a righty shot.

Decisions, decisions.

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