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02-27-2010, 07:31 PM
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Lebrun gets paid (what I imagine to be) a hefty salary to write common sense.

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If I was Russian I would not hesitate to play in the KHL. More $, closer to home, less games per season, less physical style of game? Yeah, the Stanley Cup is great and all but sign me up.
Bingo. I say the only thing that potentially could hold him back is if his wife/gf is an American/Canadian. Does he have kids? Stuff like that could be a sticking point.

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Bingo. I say the only thing that potentially could hold him back is if his wife/gf is an American/Canadian. Does he have kids? Stuff like that could be a sticking point.



"Ilya Kovalchuk with his wife Nicole Ambrazaitis (yes she is Lithuanian like Zubrus and Kasparaitis) and daughter Carolina Sofia (Courtesy golden-news)"

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I'd love for Lou Lamoriello to find a way to re-sign him, but if he can't then I'd rather see him bolt to Russia than bolt to another NHL team. At least then the sting of losing him in free agency doesn't hurt as bad.

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Hey Medvedev, guess what? His family has a say in the situation. I still don't think he's all about the money, and that he likes playing in the best league in the world.

So you can take your money and shove it up your ass.

Very unprofessional to keep talking about offering huge money when he's still on contract. Why not develop your own ****ing players instead of poaching ours?

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"Ilya Kovalchuk with his wife Nicole Ambrazaitis (yes she is Lithuanian like Zubrus and Kasparaitis) and daughter Carolina Sofia (Courtesy golden-news)"
They wont have a problem moving to Russia then.

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Hey Medvedev, guess what? His family has a say in the situation. I still don't think he's all about the money, and that he likes playing in the best league in the world.

So you can take your money and shove it up your ass.

Very unprofessional to keep talking about offering huge money when he's still on contract. Why not develop your own ****ing players instead of poaching ours?
Technically, the NHL poached him.

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Hey Medvedev, guess what? His family has a say in the situation. I still don't think he's all about the money, and that he likes playing in the best league in the world.

So you can take your money and shove it up your ass.

Very unprofessional to keep talking about offering huge money when he's still on contract. Why not develop your own ****ing players instead of poaching ours?
You're right, it is unprofessional to to talk about that, and if any team in the NHL did this, Lou would go after them for tampering. Medvedev is not doing himself any favours with NHL teams by saying this, though he probably doesn't care about that. He doesn't have anything to do with the NHL, and he doesn't have to abide by league rules. Fine.

And I'm also hoping that Kovlachuk is not about the big money, and wants to stay in NJ, where he has a chance to win the Cup every season.

But I lost you in the last sentence. They don't see it as poaching our players, nor should they. Unless Kovalchuk signs with the Devils before July 1, he will become a UFA on that day, free to go wherever he wants. If he goes to the KHL, that's not poaching, as opposed what they did with Radulov, who was under contract. That is poaching.

And I don't know what you mean by "develop your own talent". Kovalchuk was born in Russia, and played in Russian junior leagues until he was drafted at 18. They did develop him. If Kovalchuk was North American you might have a point.

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I'll drive him to the (air)port.

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He is going to make millions regardless, and I doubt the KHL throws him more than a 5 year deal with that sort of money. Some NHL team will throw him a 8-10 year contract. He'll bite it.

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I'll drive him to the (air)port.
And you'll meet a roadblock of Devils fans.

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Hey Medvedev, guess what? His family has a say in the situation. I still don't think he's all about the money, and that he likes playing in the best league in the world.

So you can take your money and shove it up your ass.

Very unprofessional to keep talking about offering huge money when he's still on contract. Why not develop your own ****ing players instead of poaching ours?
Let's be honest though man, the NHL poaches a lot of players every single off season. Russia develops lots of their own players, we poached two of the best in Malkin and Ovi. Remember how difficult it was for Malkin to defect here? I'm not sure why it makes you so damn angry.

You speak like these guys are taking something away from you, but it's their life, let them do what they need to do. Maybe North America and the NHL aren't the be-all-end-all to some people. Saying things like "take your money and shove it up your ass" is just totally ignorant considering all the circumstances. Lighten up a little.

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I don't think he'll pull a Jagr and leave for the KHL, he actually enjoys winning

but after he helps us win the cup he can go where ever the **** he wants, I could care less

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how dos a new league afford these players

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how dos a new league afford these players
The Russian mob has deep pockets.

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In reality, it's nothing more than pure speculation. What will happen come the offseason will happen. Meanwhile Kovalchuk is in NJ for the remainder of this season.

Which is good for both player and team. That clearly annoys some rival fans.

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Bingo. I say the only thing that potentially could hold him back is if his wife/gf is an American/Canadian. Does he have kids? Stuff like that could be a sticking point.
2.5 kids.

I've heard that both of them prefer living in North America, but who knows if KHL is paying $7 million more than highest NHL offer..."Money talks, and ___ walks"

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Hey Medvedev, guess what? His family has a say in the situation. I still don't think he's all about the money, and that he likes playing in the best league in the world.

So you can take your money and shove it up your ass.

Very unprofessional to keep talking about offering huge money when he's still on contract. Why not develop your own ****ing players instead of poaching ours?
his wife was a russian pop-star. if she wants to resurrect her career now would be her best chance. his family may have a say in the wrong way.

poaching ours? technically we took 4 of the top 5 forwards in the world (ovechkin malkin, kovalchuk, datsyuk) from them. WE took THEIR players. THEY developed them, not US. the ridiculous level of slef righteousness on here sometimes is baffling.

i find it kind of hilarious that all of a sudden devils fans are all of the belief that he's here forever. ya'll do realize that even if he does stay that's doesn't mean he'll re-sign with you right?

and for the record i certainly hope he stays here and signs with a team i like to watch

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i find it kind of hilarious that all of a sudden devils fans are all of the belief that he's here forever. ya'll do realize that even if he does stay that's doesn't mean he'll re-sign with you right?

and for the record i certainly hope he stays here and signs with a team i like to watch
Of course we understand that. But fans can still hope, right?

As a Devils fan, I hope that Kovalchuk likes it in New Jersey, and he fits well with the team concept, so that Lou and Kovy agree to have him stay long-term.

As a fan of hockey, and more specifically the NHL brand of hockey, I hope the best talent in the world remains in this league.

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You're right, it is unprofessional to to talk about that, and if any team in the NHL did this, Lou would go after them for tampering. Medvedev is not doing himself any favours with NHL teams by saying this, though he probably doesn't care about that. He doesn't have anything to do with the NHL, and he doesn't have to abide by league rules. Fine.

And I'm also hoping that Kovlachuk is not about the big money, and wants to stay in NJ, where he has a chance to win the Cup every season.

But I lost you in the last sentence. They don't see it as poaching our players, nor should they. Unless Kovalchuk signs with the Devils before July 1, he will become a UFA on that day, free to go wherever he wants. If he goes to the KHL, that's not poaching, as opposed what they did with Radulov, who was under contract. That is poaching.

And I don't know what you mean by "develop your own talent". Kovalchuk was born in Russia, and played in Russian junior leagues until he was drafted at 18. They did develop him. If Kovalchuk was North American you might have a point.
Atlanta offered him 10 mil a year. And it wasnt enough to convince him to stay here, even though we are a year or two behind chicago where they were in their rebuild. If you would like to say its not about the money, Where he repeatedly said "I love Atlanta, and so does my wife" Yet, turned down the biggest contract in the history of the league for a guy who doesnt understand defense. I happen to believe it is about the money for him, Like rhodes said; he played in russia for a month because we offered him 5 years on RFA deal, not 7. And when we gave him 7 he came back a completely different player.

Wait til he costs you guys games, you'll want him out.

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Atlanta offered him 10 mil a year. And it wasnt enough to convince him to stay here, even though we are a year or two behind chicago where they were in their rebuild. If you would like to say its not about the money, Where he repeatedly said "I love Atlanta, and so does my wife" Yet, turned down the biggest contract in the history of the league for a guy who doesnt understand defense. I happen to believe it is about the money for him, Like rhodes said; he played in russia for a month because we offered him 5 years on RFA deal, not 7. And when we gave him 7 he came back a completely different player.

Wait til he costs you guys games, you'll want him out.
With all due respect, the Devils are not the Thrashers. Kovalchuk has never had a legitimate chance to win the Cup, and Atlanta is a franchise that is in an uncertain period with regards to financial stability and the possibility of relocation. New Jersey is a perennial playoff qualifier, is secure financially, and is in no danger of relocating.

For now, it's about winning the Cup this season. Whether we re-sign him or not comes later. If Kovalchuk fits into the team concept (this is still up in the air), and is willing to come back at a reasonable price (also up in the air), the Lou will make every effort to re-sign him. And when Lou really wants to do something, he is usually successful.

I could be wrong, and he could be all about the money. Plenty of people sell out their ideals for the big payday. But Kovalchuk has said repeatedly that he wants to win most of all.

On July 1, we'll see how much of an idealist Kovy is.

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Medvedev just wants to make sure that the Russians never win a gold medal at the Olympics.

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He can go home and make double what he makes here in the states? He's gone.
I'd go as far as saying he'd be stupid not to go if that's the case to be honest.

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