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03-01-2010, 12:58 PM
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Homer and trade dead line?

Keep your fingers crossed it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Dan Carcillo + 2nd (God only knows when) for 4th line grinder.

Make it happen Homer!

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Being honest, I dont see it as a HUGE need. Our defense isnt looking at bad. This is unless Homer thinks Krajicek will start sucking, Parent isnt ready for anything past the 3rd pairing, and Bartulis is hurt.
I would take Hamuis back there over Parent and Bartulis.
I dont trust Parents back and health and I would rather have Hamhuis out there on the road matched up against AO,Crosby, Malkin, Parise ect then Bartulis.

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Dont go Parent, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo :sad:

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I would take Hamuis back there over Parent and Bartulis.
I dont trust Parents back and health and I would rather have Hamhuis out there on the road matched up against AO,Crosby, Malkin, Parise ect then Bartulis.
Yeah, there's no doubt that Hamhuis would represent a significant immediate impact. Do not think we could/should re-sign him, which would make me a bit uncomfortable in dealing a player like Parent...but I just don't have any faith he can stay healthy, so that decreases his long-term value in my mind considerably. When healthy, the kid can play some D...

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Yeah, there's no doubt that Hamhuis would represent a significant immediate impact. Do not think we could/should re-sign him, which would make me a bit uncomfortable in dealing a player like Parent...but I just don't have any faith he can stay healthy, so that decreases his long-term value in my mind considerably. When healthy, the kid can play some D...
back injuries can be a pain in the ass. Once you have back problems you pretty much are at a risk to have more problems in the future no matter how many surgeries you have.
Its too bad that there will always be questions surrounding Parents health because as you said when he is healthy he is a pretty good young defenseman.

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Nashville is in playoffs, Nashville do not have cap problems. Why would Nash make such trade unless our genius GM overpays. We do not 1st or 2nd round picks, I do not think we have 3rd round picks (we might). Our prospects are not ready.

Homer must trade one of Gagne or Briere.

We have no goalie but homer wants to trade for a d-men? wtf for?

Hopefully Flyers GM stays sober for about 72 hours. Is that too much to ask?

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Nashville is in playoffs, Nashville do not have cap problems. Why would Nash make such trade unless our genius GM overpays. We do not 1st or 2nd round picks, I do not think we have 3rd round picks (we might). Our prospects are not ready.

Homer must trade one of Gagne or Briere.

We have no goalie but homer wants to trade for a d-men? wtf for?

Hopefully Flyers GM stays sober for about 72 hours. Is that too much to ask?
Parent's health cant be trusted and now there are rumors with Bartulis having a groin injury. Something you dont want to have at this point of the season.
If Parent and Bartulis arent ready to go, do we really want to throw a rookie in Adirondack to the wolves in the playoffs?
besides defensive depth is a good thing in the playoffs. If you need proof, look no further then the Flyers 2004 playoff run when we had Kapanen playing defense.
I agree they need to fix the goaltending if Emery is toast. I dont trust Leighton long term at all.

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Parent's health cant be trusted and now there are rumors with Bartulis having a groin injury. Something you dont want to have at this point of the season.
If Parent and Bartulis arent ready to go, do we really want to throw a rookie in Adirondack to the wolves in the playoffs?
besides defensive depth is a good thing in the playoffs. If you need proof, look no further then the Flyers 2004 playoff run when we had Kapanen playing defense.
I agree they need to fix the goaltending if Emery is toast. I dont trust Leighton long term at all.
They aren't rumors. He ****ed his groin up playing for Latvia...

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When was it reported that Bartulis screwed his groin?

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When was it reported that Bartulis screwed his groin?
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...s_Hamhuis.html

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Oskars Bartulis did not practice again today. As I mentioned in Monday’s paper, I believe Bartulis is suffering from a groin injury sustained in Vancouver when competing for Latvia. He is doubtful for tomorrow night’s game.

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When was it reported that Bartulis screwed his groin?
In Servalli's blog or whatever.

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When was it reported that Bartulis screwed his groin?
Damn that sucks if its true (which it appears to be). I was just talking about how the Flyers would be ok with Bartulis on the back pairing heading into the playoffs.


Eklund (I know, I know) says they Flyers are interested in Peter Mueller. I'd take that. Maybe bench Powe if he is acquired?

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Parent's health cant be trusted and now there are rumors with Bartulis having a groin injury. Something you dont want to have at this point of the season.
If Parent and Bartulis arent ready to go, do we really want to throw a rookie in Adirondack to the wolves in the playoffs?
besides defensive depth is a good thing in the playoffs. If you need proof, look no further then the Flyers 2004 playoff run when we had Kapanen playing defense.
I agree they need to fix the goaltending if Emery is toast. I dont trust Leighton long term at all.
Is that why we waived Syvret?

I thought Gaborik pulled his groin not Bart.. Do you have a link?

Edit: Just saw the link. They said Parent is ready to go tough. Roll with Parent for now.


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Dont go Parent, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo
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I know Ellis did very well one year in the playoffs and had had one year where he was great with limited starts but is he actually a substantial improvement? Or is he just cheap and the best within our price range? I know very little about the guy.

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I know Ellis did very well one year in the playoffs and had had one year where he was great with limited starts but is he actually a substantial improvement? Or is he just cheap and the best within our price range? I know very little about the guy.
I'd say it's really iffy, I'm fine with him as a tandem guy or a guy that can play 30-40 solid games for you, but I don't think he's a true No.1.

I just think he's better than Leighton at least.

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I know Ellis did very well one year in the playoffs and had had one year where he was great with limited starts but is he actually a substantial improvement? Or is he just cheap and the best within our price range? I know very little about the guy.
I'd say it's the latter. A 30 year old goalie that's never started 40 games in a season.

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I'd say it's the latter. A 30 year old goalie that's never started 40 games in a season.
He's better than a not-freakish hot Leighton and than a injured Emery.
He isn't better than a healthy Emery.
So yes, he's the best we could get atm.

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My prediction: Flyers do nothing at the deadline. Our prospect cupboard is bare, we have no valuable picks for the forseeable future, we are up against the cap. For the next five years we will be trying to build this team from the third round of the draft, with the odds and ends goalies we can get for cheap. No way are we a cup contender with the addition of a soon to be UFA with what we can afford to give up.
I think this is right.

Except that they were looking mighty strong when the break came around.

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I'd say Nashville needs a backup if Ellis is getting moved.

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I'd say Nashville needs a backup if Ellis is getting moved.
Boooosh.

I'm fine with Boosh as a backup but I get the feeling we could get Leighton at a "Just glad to be in the NHL" price.

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I know Ellis did very well one year in the playoffs and had had one year where he was great with limited starts but is he actually a substantial improvement? Or is he just cheap and the best within our price range? I know very little about the guy.
He's probably in that Emery/Biron/Esche range, so, yeah the latter I'd say.


No one is getting a star goaltender at this time of year, even if we did have the parts to move and cap space available.

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Great, another 30 year old backup goalie for the Flyers, when can we get some talented youth in the net?

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Yeah, there's no doubt that Hamhuis would represent a significant immediate impact. Do not think we could/should re-sign him, which would make me a bit uncomfortable in dealing a player like Parent...but I just don't have any faith he can stay healthy, so that decreases his long-term value in my mind considerably. When healthy, the kid can play some D...
This is where I think Shooter is a little delusional. I do not give up on parent yet, especially for a rental unless he was part of a package for a quality goalie. Hamhuis is an upgrade no doubt but goaltending is still a major issue. So you lose Parent who next year will be still on a cheap contract (unless homer pulls his usual) that you will need to fill out your bottom pair, while also letting him develop further.

Now if they acquire Hamhuis and resign him then trade coburn or carle, than I think that changes things.

Has a team ever gone into the draft with no picks?

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