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03-01-2010, 01:32 PM
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Boooosh.

I'm fine with Boosh as a backup but I get the feeling we could get Leighton at a "Just glad to be in the NHL" price.
A team with a savy GM could, the flyers are not one of those teams. 3 year 3mm per with ntc over the summer.

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Has a team ever gone into the draft with no picks?
Once St. Louis sat out a draft because of uncertainty with the stability of the franchise.

I nominate we use that official nickname though

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Once St. Louis sat out a draft because of uncertainty with the stability of the franchise.

I nominate we use that official nickname though
That I recall reading what I mean literally not having any picks because they were all traded.

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I know it's just Eklund, but he's saying the Pens are interested in Lups.

Dunno what to think of this, it's not his choice to go there I guess. But I never want to see Lupul in a Pens sweater.

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Has a team ever gone into the draft with no picks?
Don't give Homer any ideas about how to get into the history books...

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I know it's just Eklund, but he's saying the Pens are interested in Lups.

Dunno what to think of this, it's not his choice to go there I guess. But I never want to see Lupul in a Pens sweater.
Eh, not sure that will happen. Last time I heard Lupul was heard.

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I know it's just Eklund, but he's saying the Pens are interested in Lups.

Dunno what to think of this, it's not his choice to go there I guess. But I never want to see Lupul in a Pens sweater.
He also pretty much reposted the CSNFLyers tweet about Emery and saying there was a move coming.

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I know this is not a very likely thing to happen so spare the "are you kidding me?" replies and stuff like that. Just curious as to what everyone would think about going after Horton? With the moves that were made the Flyers could potentially fit him under the cap and his $4 mil for the next four years isn't that daunting. I know it doesn't really solve the goaltending problem (which I still don't think is the end of the world), but at this point, there really isn't too much out there that will. Getting a solid player like Horton who can play wing or center would definitely help come playoff time.

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FWIW, my buddy who works for the Flyers media department was hinting at some kind of an announcement being made tonight or early tomorrow... telling me he might have to work late tonight, or go in early tomorrow...

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I know it's just Eklund, but he's saying the Pens are interested in Lups.

Dunno what to think of this, it's not his choice to go there I guess. But I never want to see Lupul in a Pens sweater.
With his constant injuries this season, and contract...I'd be shocked to see him moved.

I think the Pens are going hard after Ponikarovsky.

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I really wouldnt care if Lupul was traded to the Pens. He has serious back problems and is lazy defensively and overpaid. He would be awesome on that team (awesome for us)

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FWIW, my buddy who works for the Flyers media department was hinting at some kind of an announcement being made tonight or early tomorrow... telling me he might have to work late tonight, or go in early tomorrow...
I can see it now... "Leighton is our new starter"

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I really wouldnt care if Lupul was traded to the Pens. He has serious back problems and is lazy defensively and overpaid. He would be awesome on that team (awesome for us)
Would that mean that Homer sucked so bad as a GM he actually hurt other teams?

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Would that mean that Homer sucked so bad as a GM he actually hurt other teams?
Which, consequently, helps the Flyers... So he's somehow a horrible GM, yet a good GM.

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I really wouldnt care if Lupul was traded to the Pens. He has serious back problems and is lazy defensively and overpaid. He would be awesome on that team (awesome for us)
I don't know. I could easily see Lupul being the next big Flyer Killer. Although he was a Penguin Killer in his days with the Flyers...maybe he will sabotage them?

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Lupul's wrist shot + Crosby is not a combination you want to see in the division. You can say what you want about Lupul, but the man can put the puck in the net when you give him the puck in space.

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Lupul's wrist shot + Crosby is not a combination you want to see in the division. You can say what you want about Lupul, but the man can put the puck in the net when you give him the puck in space.
You mean when he actually wanted to play. Which was every 5 games.

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This is where I think Shooter is a little delusional. I do not give up on parent yet, especially for a rental unless he was part of a package for a quality goalie. Hamhuis is an upgrade no doubt but goaltending is still a major issue. So you lose Parent who next year will be still on a cheap contract (unless homer pulls his usual) that you will need to fill out your bottom pair, while also letting him develop further.

Now if they acquire Hamhuis and resign him then trade coburn or carle, than I think that changes things.

Has a team ever gone into the draft with no picks?
Right, but if you've come the conclusion that Parent cannot be a long-term fixture due to injuries...why not take on Hamhuis for this run?

I agree completely on the goalie front.

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Would that mean that Homer sucked so bad as a GM he actually hurt other teams?

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You mean when he actually wanted to play. Which was every 5 games.
He wouldn't even have to want to play...just hang in the slot and wait for the pass.

Of course, I also think the "when he wants to play stuff" is overblown. He, like the vast majority of scorers in the league, is a streaky player...and Lupul is a pure shooter, so when stuff is going in for him he looks great...when he doesn't, he looks awful. Same with guys of that mold (with regard to their sport) in every other sport. Ryan Howard and HRs...shooters in basketball...etc.

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Would that mean that Homer sucked so bad as a GM he actually hurt other teams?
Yep, pretty much. Kinda funny how that works. Homer likes to give players at least 1 mill more then they are worth.

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Which, consequently, helps the Flyers... So he's somehow a horrible GM, yet a good GM.
He is so bad, he is good?

Not really, he had to add the extra first rounder to Anaheim to DUMP Lupul's contract. This is something I'm sure about.

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I don't know. I could easily see Lupul being the next big Flyer Killer. Although he was a Penguin Killer in his days with the Flyers...maybe he will sabotage them?
He will, chronic back problems and complete lack of backchecking = only a wrist shot.

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Lupul's wrist shot + Crosby is not a combination you want to see in the division. You can say what you want about Lupul, but the man can put the puck in the net when you give him the puck in space.
Yeah, a TON of space, because the guy sure wont fight to make his own space, nor will he fight for anything in front of the net. Briere fights harder in front of the net then he does. Embarrassing.

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Right, but if you've come the conclusion that Parent cannot be a long-term fixture due to injuries...why not take on Hamhuis for this run?

I agree completely on the goalie front.
Hamhuis is solid. Love him for a top 4 role here.

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Yeah, a TON of space, because the guy sure wont fight to make his own space, nor will he fight for anything in front of the net. Briere fights harder in front of the net then he does. Embarrassing.
Briere has to, because he doesn't have Lupul's shot. If a guy like Lupul (similar to Carter and Gagne, in fact) is going into the ****, so to speak, he's giving up one of his greatest assets offensively (his shot). It's a give and take thing...but it is ever interesting how style seems to count over substance in a lot of respects.

Guy put together back-to-back 25+ seasons (if you account for pro-rating with the Hatcher-hit injury). That's not exactly easy in the NHL.

Note: Briere is also just a better offensive player all around when he's healthy.

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Right, but if you've come the conclusion that Parent cannot be a long-term fixture due to injuries...why not take on Hamhuis for this run?

I agree completely on the goalie front.
Well I think it is hard to come to that conclusion just yet. I guess you can but I still wouldnt do it unless I had an upgrade in goal. Why waste a asset for a run that probably wont happen on a rental player.

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Well I think it is hard to come to that conclusion just yet. I guess you can but I still wouldnt do it unless I had an upgrade in goal. Why waste a asset for a run that probably wont happen on a rental player.
Eh, thinking outside the box...what if they convinced someone to take Carle off their hands and re-signed Hamhuis to a reasonable deal (if that's even possible). That would put me in a good mood.

I agree, there are issues there. But as a matter of value, I don't think Parent for Hamhuis is a terrible trade all things considered...but I would much prefer something to be done about goalie.

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I'd rather try to get Cory Schneider and deal Parent in return, but if we can somehow land both Hamhuis and Ellis in the same deal, I wouldn't be disappointed.

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