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03-03-2010, 04:10 PM
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I like both guys but...

Maloney has not shown the ability to draft well, and Burke traded a top 3 pick this year and what could very well be a top 5-10 pick next year ++ for Kessel.
At least Burkie has shown he has the ability to turn a team around, look at how he already has turned over the Maple Leafs roster by trading away garbage and getting valuable pieces back.

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Ridiculous statement. Maybe he is finally looking at the big picture and realizing that toiling in mediocrity year after year is not going to get it done.

I'm no Sather fan but no player was moved today that would make this team a contender anyway.
And if that is the case then you sell.

That's what everyone is pissed about. If you think the team is still in it then you make moves to ensure that, but if you don't then you sell off assets.

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What's not to get?

If there was no one available to make this team contend, then SELL the likes of Prospal and Jokinen.

Sitting on your fat ass smoking cigars is not the way to go.

I hate Sather.

HATE.

How can someone so incompetent keep their job this long.

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At least Burkie has shown he has the ability to turn a team around, look at how he already has turned over the Maple Leafs roster by trading away garbage and getting valuable pieces back.
Agreed, and he did build a cup winner in Ana. Just don't like the Kessel deal, a top 3 pick and probable top 5-10 next year ++ is tough to swallow, as much as I like Kessel.


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Yelle back to Colorado. 27 trades and counting so far today.

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What's not to get?

If there was no one available to make this team contend, then SELL the likes of Prospal and Jokinen.

Sitting on your fat ass smoking cigars is not the way to go.

I hate Sather.

HATE.

How can someone so incompetent keep their job this long.
All of you guys harping on SELL aren't seeing the big picture here which is Dolan sitting in the background probably crying about the millions of dollars he'll lose by not making the playoffs. NO WAY does Sather get a green light to "sell" one point out of a playoff spot.

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Yelle back to Colorado. 27 trades and counting so far today.
YES!!!!!! this was the blockbuster we were looking for.

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that's so true about the Flyers, Bluenote. Always had a great roster, but never had that guy in goal. Everyone crapped over Lindros for not winning the Cup, but last I checked it seemed as though every team that's won the Cup either had a great goalie or a goalie who played great and 95 times out of 100 outplayed the guy across the ice from him.

Regarding the Rangers once again...change always seems better, but it isn't always the right thing to do. The prospects of getting new players was exciting because the thought process is it cannot get any worse. Of course, then 6 months down the road it's the same. I'm fine with staying pat. Would've been fine to see a move or two depending on the move, but given what moved, and given Sather's inability to make a decent trade, perhaps it's best nothing was done.

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YES!!!!!! this was the blockbuster we were looking for.
It's the salary cap era. Too many teams are up against the cap and can't make any major deals. Just deals for expiring contracts and depth players.

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03-03-2010, 04:24 PM
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That is exactly what he is doing. This year is a classic example of Ranger mediocrity.
You have to bottom out before you can rebuild properly. What would you have done? Made another push for 7th because "anything can happen?"

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You have to bottom out before you can rebuild properly. What would you have done? Made another push for 7th because "anything can happen?"
No, he would have realized that the best this team could hope for is an "anything can happen" moment and thus should sell.

That's the definition of mediocrity. "We're not good enough to make any moves for a playoff push, but at the same time I'm not going to admit defeat and sell off assets to get younger." That's what's pissing off Ranger fans.

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03-03-2010, 04:36 PM
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So I guess that minor league deal never went through?

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At least Callahan is still a Ranger.

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So I guess that minor league deal never went through?
I can still go through, trades can happen hours after the deadline.

But really, whooo caaaares.

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No, he would have realized that the best this team could hope for is an "anything can happen" moment and thus should sell.

That's the definition of mediocrity. "We're not good enough to make any moves for a playoff push, but at the same time I'm not going to admit defeat and sell off assets to get younger." That's what's pissing off Ranger fans.
I'll agree with that statement.

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You have to bottom out before you can rebuild properly. What would you have done? Made another push for 7th because "anything can happen?"
No I would have traded my UFA too be for futures. This team will never "rebuild" properly. And we don't need a total rebuild, as much as most of us would love to see one. What we do need to do is manage our assets properly and get out of this perpetual mediocrity. Sather has shown the complete inability to do this.

Unfortunately the allure of $$$$'s that sneaking into the 7th or 8th spot will bring in is the most impotant factor!

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Rangers get Eriksson from PHX for Wikman and a 7th.

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Rangers get Eriksson from PHX for Wikman and a 7th.

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Yay...

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Anders Ericksson hahaha.

they gave up too much

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defense for the Pack?

Is Eriksson still in that waiver exempt period so they could send him down, I seem to remember he was just on waivers (making it strange that the Rangers traded for him but hell Wiikman and a 7th round pick are basically nothing)

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No, he would have realized that the best this team could hope for is an "anything can happen" moment and thus should sell.
If you actually thought that selling was going to be an option for the Rangers, then you might want to check your meds. Believe me, I was hoping they would, but I knew they wouldn't. I was more hoping that they wouldn't do anything stupid in their efforts to make the playoffs. We can at least be thankful that they didn't.

And for all those that are crying because he didn't improve the team, who says there was a deal available that would improve the team? Do you think Sather wasn't trying to make deals?

We are at 50 contracts, which means for every player we trade for, we have to send one out. We didn't even have the option to make an Antropov like deal. Also, pretty much any trade would require us to send Redden or Rozy the other way, which few teams, if any, would be interested in.

I'm not defending Sather here. He's painted us into a corner with the way he built this team. But those thinking he should have done something to improve our chances at the playoffs need to get a clue. He tried to make a deal but the right deal wasn't there to be made.

He made what deals he could already getting Jokinen, Prust and Shelly and getting rid of Higgins and Kotalik. He still has a ******** of work to do between now and next season, but unfortunately, he wasn't able to do any of it today.

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He made what deals he could already getting Jokinen, Prust and Shelly and getting rid of Higgins and Kotalik. He still has a ******** of work to do between now and next season, but unfortunately, he wasn't able to do any of it today.
Honestly that deal is fine for a "deadline deal" (basically what it was)

He ditched a bad contract and got a guy who is useful for the rest of the season and they don't have to re-sign (Jokinen, who already won a game for the Rangers), and he got Prust which vaguely helps something.

It was decent.

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good trade: eriksson is 35 old toughness and expert!

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If you actually thought that selling was going to be an option for the Rangers, then you might want to check your meds. Believe me, I was hoping they would, but I knew they wouldn't. I was more hoping that they wouldn't do anything stupid in their efforts to make the playoffs. We can at least be thankful that they didn't.

And for all those that are crying because he didn't improve the team, who says there was a deal available that would improve the team? Do you think Sather wasn't trying to make deals?

We are at 50 contracts, which means for every player we trade for, we have to send one out. We didn't even have the option to make an Antropov like deal. Also, pretty much any trade would require us to send Redden or Rozy the other way, which few teams, if any, would be interested in.

I'm not defending Sather here. He's painted us into a corner with the way he built this team. But those thinking he should have done something to improve our chances at the playoffs need to get a clue. He tried to make a deal but the right deal wasn't there to be made.

He made what deals he could already getting Jokinen, Prust and Shelly and getting rid of Higgins and Kotalik. He still has a ******** of work to do between now and next season, but unfortunately, he wasn't able to do any of it today.
Believe me, I'm far from shocked that he didn't sell. In fact, if he did sell I would have been absolutely stunned.

But that doesn't mean it wouldn't have been the right thing to do.

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