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03-10-2010, 02:08 PM
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OT: League proposes rule on blows to head (Update: This season?)

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The GMs will forward the following recommendation to the competition committee: "A lateral, back pressure or blindside hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of -- is not permitted." Such a violation would result in a minor or major penalty and be reviewed for possibly further discipline.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4982270

I'm glad that the league is finally going to have some language on this. It will be nice to have actual language prohibiting shots directly to the head...tired of hearing, "Yes, it was vicious, but it was a legal hit," when some player is blindsided by a shoulder to the head.

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03-10-2010, 02:14 PM
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The one area that I'm not really sure about is height difference though.
If a 6"4 guy throws his shoulder into a 5"9 player, won't that almost automatically be a head shot regardless of intention?

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03-10-2010, 02:17 PM
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So according to that language, Richards and Cooke would have been suspended.

It's about time the league got their heads out of their *****. I'm sick of these technically "legal" (yet dirty) hits targeting players heads. It's not right.

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The one area that I'm not really sure about is height difference though.
If a 6"4 guy throws his shoulder into a 5"9 player, won't that almost automatically be a head shot regardless of intention?
If it's not from behind or an instance where the player is defenseless, then it won't make a difference.

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The one area that I'm not really sure about is height difference though.
If a 6"4 guy throws his shoulder into a 5"9 player, won't that almost automatically be a head shot regardless of intention?
If the hit isn't from behind or from the side, it won't make a difference. Like Ovechkin's hit on Jagr would have been fine since it was head-on.

And even if it did place an unfair burden on the big guys that go up against the mighty mites, then that's fine by me. I'd rather have that than the status quo, where guys are going headhunting seemingly for fun.

The rule isn't perfect, and it doesn't address the underlying probelm-a lack of respect for the fellow player-but it's a definite step in the right direction. And an urgently needed step at that.
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03-10-2010, 04:48 PM
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And even if it did place an unfair burden on the big guys that go up against the mighty mites, then that's fine by me. I'd rather have that than the status quo, where guys are going headhunting seemingly for fun.
I agree. There's really no reason that a big guy should be lining up a much smaller player like that anyway, unless they're trying to hurt him.

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In a roundabout way the rule kind of says that you can hit guys in the face but not the rest of the head since they have to see it coming.

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Listen, we've all seen it happen. incidental contact can produce severe injuries, and thats why any hit that produces an injury of any kind of severity should be reviewed. However I really don't think this goes far enough.

Do you want to see Knee on Knee hits disappear? Headshots? Hits from behind? Simple. Merely institute a rule such as: Any contact deemed non-incidental garners the offending player a suspension for the entirety of the injured players absence. If the injury proves to be career ending, the offending players career is also over.

If there is anyone who loves good old hard-nosed north american hockey, it's me, however being someone who's career was ended before it even got started due to a dirty hit, I can tell you, I hope the ******* who hit me can't play either. An eye for an eye.

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I think all Melrose Barnaby and that other guy misunderstood what the rule new says. While it does say hits where the head is "targeted" would be illegal, it also says that any hits where the "principal point of contact" is the head, (these have to be from the side or behind) are illegal too.

I must applaud that wording, and the rule itself is really a great step. If the first thing you hit is a guys head when going in for a hit from behind or from the side, it should be an automatic penalty and reviewed for suspension. Spot on.

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Listen, we've all seen it happen. incidental contact can produce severe injuries, and thats why any hit that produces an injury of any kind of severity should be reviewed. However I really don't think this goes far enough.

Do you want to see Knee on Knee hits disappear? Headshots? Hits from behind? Simple. Merely institute a rule such as: Any contact deemed non-incidental garners the offending player a suspension for the entirety of the injured players absence. If the injury proves to be career ending, the offending players career is also over.

If there is anyone who loves good old hard-nosed north american hockey, it's me, however being someone who's career was ended before it even got started due to a dirty hit, I can tell you, I hope the ******* who hit me can't play either. An eye for an eye.
This sounds nice, but if that were to happen hitting would all but disappear altogether.

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I agree. There's really no reason that a big guy should be lining up a much smaller player like that anyway, unless they're trying to hurt him.
What? So now guys should only check players their own size?

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I am still waiting for the rule where if you injure a person on a suspension worthy action, your suspension is at minimum the same time the player is injured.

Would love to see guys like Richards and Cooke forced to sit out for several months.

It would be nice if players had to think to themselves... "Well I could try and rip this guys head off, but I might be suspended for the next 3 months if I hurt him bad?"

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If the league is so concerned about brain damage, they should not let Ranger games be aired on TV for the fan's sake.

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Gotta love ESPN:

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Cooke was suspended two games this season for a hit to the head of Rangers center Atrium Animism. He also drew a two-game suspension for a hitting Carolina forward Scott Walker in the head on Jan. 20, 2009.
Sounds like a disease involving animals.

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Gotta love ESPN:



Sounds like a disease involving animals.
Atrium? Don't let Artie see, he'll soil himself.


No really, a rule change regarding hits to the hit is way overdue.

This is a good start.

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Sounds like a disease involving animals.


Wow, that's one of the worst I've seen yet.

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The league is pathetic. Savard is likely out for the remainder of the season and Cooke doesn't even get a 1 game suspension for yet another dirty hit. These guys are clowns.

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I do not like the rule. I mean, it is better than nothing, but not what needs to be done. Lateral or blindsided... Gimme a brake, it's not enough. Player has to play, he should not be focused on protecting himself from injury, it's not a sport then.
IMO, the purpose of a hit is to create the turnover. Nothing else. If it serves other purpose such as physical intimidation, sort of punishment, an attempt to trow the opponent off his game or anything of the similar nature, it must be banned. Blindside hits is a good start, but then late hits should follow and the rest of that BS.

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rule or no rule, i still don't understand how Cooke's hit doesn't warrant a suspension...particularly when he already received one for a similar hit a couple months back. i just don't get it.

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What? So now guys should only check players their own size?
No, but come on, there's a difference between "checking" someone and going out of your way to knock them in to next week.
Checking is there to remove the opposing player from the puck, and how far you want to take that is up to the player. I'm not anti-hitting or anti-physicality.
But when a big player targets a much smaller player and runs him through the boards, I'm not going to feel bad when they call it a head shot.

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No, but come on, there's a difference between "checking" someone and going out of your way to knock them in to next week.
Checking is there to remove the opposing player from the puck, and how far you want to take that is up to the player. I'm not anti-hitting or anti-physicality.
But when a big player targets a much smaller player and runs him through the boards, I'm not going to feel bad when they call it a head shot.
I don't know. Physical intimidation has always been a part of the game. I'm all for bone crunching hits...as long as elbows are down and they are not head shots or hits from behind.

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rule or no rule, i still don't understand how Cooke's hit doesn't warrant a suspension...particularly when he already received one for a similar hit a couple months back. i just don't get it.
He jumped into the Anisimov hit. Not this one.

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I don't know. Physical intimidation has always been a part of the game. I'm all for bone crunching hits...as long as elbows are down and they are not head shots or hits from behind.
Well that's the thing, how do you hit a guy who's 5 inches shorter than you and not catch the head?
Of course you have the hip check but that takes some real precision and it's a rare sight these days.
It's so much easier to just put your arms up and run in to a guy, and that's the problem.

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it doesnt really matter what they say. they have to put this into effect, and show players their serious: like calling ovetchkin and crosby when they blindside players. I have seen so many that have never been called.

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To update, it looks like the League is ready to institute the rule this season:

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TORONTO -- The NHL wants to adopt a new rule against blindside hits to the head before the end of this season, according to two reports Wednesday.

The league is hoping to fast-track the proposed rule and is preparing a DVD package after a number of players suffered concussions this season. The highlight package will illustrate what would, and wouldn't, be allowed under a proposed rule change adopted by general managers at meetings in Florida last week.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5002178

The sooner the better, I say.

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