Can this guy (Holmgren) be fired already before he ****s up next year. Seriously, what is Snider doing? I know the Sixers are a mess, but he better act before he has two terrible messes on his hands.
Is Holmgren seriously afraid someone is going to try to poach Leighton? He was a waiver wire pickup. There aren't going to be teams lined up waiting for him to hit the open market.
While I understand what you mean, that was before Leights played one game with the Flyers. Since he came here he's been good.
He's not been spectacular, dominating or incredible, but he's not been brutal, bad or Vesa Toskala. He's been good. His rebound control is below average by a substantial margin, but all other aspects of his game are ... right! ... good.
As you, I'm pretty sure he's not the number one target of any team heading into free agency and (neither should he be the number one target for the Flyers) but Craig Anderson cashed in a 3 year deal paying him $1.8 mil a year. When you look at Leights stats you notice that as soon as he played more than just a handful of games he's been at least good. He's had one bad year in the AHL in which he played 40 games and had a SV% below .900, but for the most part he was very good in the AHL and in the NHL he had exactly 3 seasons (including this one) in which he played 19 or more season. In all of them he had a 0.900 SV% or (slightly) higher.
Sign him, get rid of Boucher and see if you can get A) an upgrade over Leights aka a proven starter [Vokoun, Halak (?), Price (?)] or B) a young goaltender with a bright future and lots of potential [Schneider(!), Harding, Enroth(?)].
*Didn't know where to put both Montreal goalie.
He's a better backup than Boosh and he deserved a contract.
But we really need a starter.
The way he has played and is playing, I agree that he's fine as a backup. But who on earth scrambles to get a dime-a-dozen backup goalie signed? Besides our GM, I mean.
It makes no freakin' sense to anyone except Homer, I guess. It's like worrying that your 14th forward who is in the pressbox most nights might be attractive to some other team.
I know it's not news to anyone, but it's astounding to me that the man has no concept about budgeting and prioritizing whatsoever.
The way he has played and is playing, I agree that he's fine as a backup. But who on earth scrambles to get a dime-a-dozen backup goalie signed? Besides our GM, I mean.
It makes no freakin' sense to anyone except Homer, I guess. It's like worrying that your 14th forward who is in the pressbox most nights might be attractive to some other team.
I know it's not news to anyone, but it's astounding to me that the man has no concept about budgeting and prioritizing whatsoever.
I wouldn't have a problem with this if Boucher wasn't signed for next year. If they sign Leighton to a decent contract, and then dump Boucher...then go for it.
Leighton has played better than Boucher (but I still maintain that if Bouche ever got a chance to play, he might be as solid or possibly better), but we're stuck with Bouche for next year. As some have pointed out, waiving him next year eats one of our 50 contracts, and I'll bet you anything Homer puts him on re-entry to repay him for his dedication and service, and then wastes more cap.
I'll also bet you anything that he's signing Leighton to be our starter because - after all - his record is just SO GOOD (), and won't even bother shopping for a legitimate long-term solution.
I can just see the press conference now.
"We think Michael is a very solid goaltender, and he's stepped in and done a great job for us this year. We think he has the potential to solidify the position for us over the next few years." As he hands over that 3 year, $2-3m per contract....
I wouldn't worry about the 50 contract thing. There are like 15 minor leaguers expiring after this season, probably half of which have no shot at coming back. Should be plenty of flexibility there.
I wouldn't worry about the 50 contract thing. There are like 15 minor leaguers expiring after this season, probably half of which have no shot at coming back. Should be plenty of flexibility there.
Yes, but we're presumably going to be signing some of them, and having CHL guys showing up (Bodrov will be a contract next year), etc. If Leighton is just going to be your backup next year, I would have liked to see them figure out Boucher first.
I wouldn't worry about the 50 contract thing. There are like 15 minor leaguers expiring after this season, probably half of which have no shot at coming back. Should be plenty of flexibility there.
Okay, fair enough....but it's still annoying to see wasted assets in general.
And I'm still terrified that he's just going to go into the summer saying "Leighton's our guy" and sit on his hands while better goalies change hands for prices we would have been able to afford.
Don't worry guys, he's just getting a head start on ****ing our 2010-11 cap in the ass without lube.
He probably heard his ass is going to be out on the streets after the season, so he just wants to make it easier for the next guy.
Hahaha. He's going to make sure he totally handcuffs his successor, so that his replacement appears equally inadequate and he can just be like "SEE?! SEE? I did do a good job, compared to this clown."
Yes, but we're presumably going to be signing some of them, and having CHL guys showing up (Bodrov will be a contract next year), etc. If Leighton is just going to be your backup next year, I would have liked to see them figure out Boucher first.
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Okay, fair enough....but it's still annoying to see wasted assets in general.
And I'm still terrified that he's just going to go into the summer saying "Leighton's our guy" and sit on his hands while better goalies change hands for prices we would have been able to afford.
Hey, I'm not saying I like this move. Makes no sense not to wait and see how he fares the rest of the season. Just saying that we actually have some flexibility with the 50 contract max this year. I don't have exact numbers, but there weren't anywhere near as many guys coming off the books last year.
Hey, I'm not saying I like this move. Makes no sense not to wait and see how he fares the rest of the season. Just saying that we actually have some flexibility with the 50 contract max this year. I don't have exact numbers, but there weren't anywhere near as many guys coming off the books last year.
Right, but that doesn't mean we're not going to want the contract slot that one of these two goalies will be holding in the event we sign someone else to be a starter.
Is Holmgren seriously afraid someone is going to try to poach Leighton? He was a waiver wire pickup. There aren't going to be teams lined up waiting for him to hit the open market.
There should be no urgency at all to want to sign him. None. He wants a big raise over his 600k, well that big raise would be about 800k to be the back up assuming they dump boucher, which they will and include a prospect or pick to boot. The piece said his agent wants to talk to the flyers so not sure it is really from the flyers end. It shouldnt be. If so this is why this orgiization will not win a cup anytime soon. You just know shooter will do something dumb.
I came in here to post pretty much everything Jester said so...yeah. No reason at all to do this and it just makes me not like Homer even more. Makes me even more pissed off after last nights 5-1 beating. This organization sometimes is just nothing but one huge face-palm.
No reason at all to work one out now just because, even if you do believe that we should sign Leighton for next year (which I don't), you should get rid of Boosh first and sign Leighton as your backup for a really cheap contract.
As it is now, I'm just massively afraid that Holmgren is going to be as cheap as he can at the goalie position and have Leighton as our starter next year with possibly Boosh backing him up. Makes zero sense whatsoever to any sane fan, but I could very easily see Holmgren doing it. Sometimes stats are all that matters to people.
The prospect of having Leighton as our starter next year terrifies me. I wouldn't even like him as a backup (although I would be able to swallow it), let alone as our fricking starter.
You'd figure Holmgren would learn that one good season does not lead to a fat contract (see Jones, Randy). Instead, Holmgren is going to make the same mistake, yet again, and when Leighton stinks up the joint next year (and if you look at his track record, we should see him come down to earth very shortly), we'll all be screaming again about how Holmgren has yet another wasted case on his hands. I never wish this upon anyone, but will someone in that organization wake up and fire this man.
