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03-22-2010, 09:46 AM
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imo the rangers HAVE to get kovalchuk and that's got to be at the expense of redden rozsival and gilroy.

sanguinetti can do gilroy's job just do it for about 1 mil cheaper.

the rangers though should bring in a cheap gritty veteran guy like eaton or mara or mckee that type to play on the third pair.

imo you replace those three with sanguinetti mcdonagh and that cheap veteran. the reason is that staal mdz and girardi are the guys getting the big minutes and will probably get even more next year, so really we're looking to fill in the bottom half. if we can do that with talented cheap rookies and a cheap gritty vet, we can def make some moves to fix the forward group.
This is the ideal scenario. Replace Rozsival with Derek Morris for 2 mil, Redden with either Sauer or McDonagh, and replace Gilroy with Sangs( Which [ am 100% for).

But in this case we also need a veteran 7th who can play minutes, in case MDZ isnt ready for top 4 defensive minutes, and neither is Sauer/McDonagh.

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This is the ideal scenario. Replace Rozsival with Derek Morris for 2 mil, Redden with either Sauer or McDonagh, and replace Gilroy with Sangs( Which [ am 100% for).

But in this case we also need a veteran 7th who can play minutes, in case MDZ isnt ready for top 4 defensive minutes, and neither is Sauer/McDonagh.
morris ok another guy in that mold but yah that's the idea. someone 2 mil or cheaper that's a veteran guy not afraid to play with an edge. im not a big morris fan but yes you are on the same page.

mdz is playing top 4 mins right now though and that's not going to change. i expect him to be given even more minutes next year.

we didn't have a 7th guy all year and imo that hurt us, but you know who's out there as a UFA this summer. Our good buddy jason strudwick. and the best part about signing him is he can play wing on the fourth line as a poor man's enforcer. We can have our fourth line enforcer and 7th dman with one signing. We need to save money here incase we can't move brashear. torts only plays his goon a minute or two a night anyway so having strudwick would be perfect. i always thought it was a mistake letting him go. i'd love to see if we can get him back here.

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This is the ideal scenario. Replace Rozsival with Derek Morris for 2 mil, Redden with either Sauer or McDonagh, and replace Gilroy with Sangs( Which [ am 100% for).

But in this case we also need a veteran 7th who can play minutes, in case MDZ isnt ready for top 4 defensive minutes, and neither is Sauer/McDonagh.
You seen Morris play lately? He's a bottom pair defenseman at best. Hardly the ideal scenario. In fact (40 year old) Matt Schneider has played much better for the Coyotes since they were both acquired.

What this team needs is a number one defenseman. Unfortunately barring a trade, we'll have to settle for Hamhuis, Volchenkov or perhaps Paul Martin.

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What this team needs is a number one defenseman. Unfortunately barring a trade, we'll have to settle for Hamhuis, Volchenkov or perhaps Paul Martin.
Or Gudbranson.

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You seen Morris play lately? He's a bottom pair defenseman at best. Hardly the ideal scenario. In fact (40 year old) Matt Schneider has played much better for the Coyotes since they were both acquired.

What this team needs is a number one defenseman. Unfortunately barring a trade, we'll have to settle for Hamhuis, Volchenkov or perhaps Paul Martin.
He wasn't bad for the Bruins, and he wasn't bad for us last season. I bet Schneider is playing with a bit of a chip on his shoulder right now. But hell, I thought we should have signed him this summer.

Volchenkov is one of the best defensive defensemen in hockey, but if that overrated Komisarek got 4.5 per, Volchenkov is going to get 5 at least. We can't afford that here. Maybe if we move Rozsival I guess, but that's still a lot of money considering we've still got Redden.

Hamhuis is a decent player, but I don't think he solves many of our problems. Not worth the money he'll be paid, either.

Martin...yeah, he'd be nice. I'm just sick and ****ing tired of stealing New Jersey's players.

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You seen Morris play lately? He's a bottom pair defenseman at best. Hardly the ideal scenario. In fact (40 year old) Matt Schneider has played much better for the Coyotes since they were both acquired.

What this team needs is a number one defenseman. Unfortunately barring a trade, we'll have to settle for Hamhuis, Volchenkov or perhaps Paul Martin.
Nah the team needs more scoring. Our organizational depth at D will solve that problem be it sooner or later. I dont want to toss money at a Volchenkov or a Martin.

Derek Morris is more an concept of mine than an actual player want. A top 4 vet dman with nothing fancy or offensive about his game that can fill Rozsival's role on this team for 3 mil cheaper.

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if we make those moves that's exactly what we need a bottom pairing dman on the cheap. we SHOULD NOT go out looking to sign another top pairing guy. we're developing our own. what we need is depth if we move rosy redden and gilroy, and we need it cheap.

the rangers very well could draft one of the big 3 dmen this year and add him to staal mdz girardi sanguinetti and mcdonagh. that might even be the smartest move. i think if gudbranson is there you take him. fowler will be gone in the top 3 picks that i'm sure of but if we end up with a 5 6 or 7 pick gudbranson could be the guy.

personally my heart is set on seguin then nino in that order. but if i can get fowler or gudbranson i'd do it.

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YAY another defensemen.

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if we make those moves that's exactly what we need a bottom pairing dman on the cheap. we SHOULD NOT go out looking to sign another top pairing guy. we're developing our own. what we need is depth if we move rosy redden and gilroy, and we need it cheap.

the rangers very well could draft one of the big 3 dmen this year and add him to staal mdz girardi sanguinetti and mcdonagh. that might even be the smartest move. i think if gudbranson is there you take him. fowler will be gone in the top 3 picks that i'm sure of but if we end up with a 5 6 or 7 pick gudbranson could be the guy.

personally my heart is set on seguin then nino in that order. but if i can get fowler or gudbranson i'd do it.
I really don't want to draft another defenceman with our first. We have so many already. What we need is a first line forward, preferably center. Now, if we come up and the d-man is the best player available...well, i don't know. I'd really like for us to trade up and get seguin though. I'd be willing to give up our 1st next year and girardi to move up.

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I really don't want to draft another defenceman with our first. We have so many already. What we need is a first line forward, preferably center. Now, if we come up and the d-man is the best player available...well, i don't know. I'd really like for us to trade up and get seguin though. I'd be willing to give up our 1st next year and girardi to move up.
It will, unfortunately, take more than that package to get us seguin....it will take a lot more.

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We could have more offense if our defense would just shoot the puck quicker...we have to be the absolute worst at doing that . Our team must have led the league in point shots blocked for taking so long . Sometimes the other team does a complete line change before anybody rifles it towards the net...well it almost seems like that sometimes !

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If Sangs &/or Sauer &/or McD are deemed ready for the NHL next season aren't we better off getting them through their growing pains ASAP even if it means a bad year for our D next year. We aren't going anywhere next year anyways.
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Martin...yeah, he'd be nice. I'm just sick and ****ing tired of stealing New Jersey's players.
I am too but among available defensemen, he's the best combination of talent and age.

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Or Gudbranson.
Nice thoight but that's a few years away.

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You sound like you are friends with Gilroy or something being that he told you about the Higgins trade...then you call him a joke?
I think he made whoopie with the poster's gf in high school now he's bitter.

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Who says he's an offensive defenseman? He barely scored in Alaska last year. Even in BCHL he wasn't scoring a great deal until last year. Who followed this guy enough to tell if he's really skilled, and if so, please let us know why he hasn't scored before.

He's actually pretty big and gets a lot of PIM, so at least going by stats, he seems more like a defensive guy than offensive. Has anyone watched him (and actually paid attention to him)?

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This is the ideal scenario. Replace Rozsival with Derek Morris for 2 mil, Redden with either Sauer or McDonagh, and replace Gilroy with Sangs( Which [ am 100% for).

But in this case we also need a veteran 7th who can play minutes, in case MDZ isnt ready for top 4 defensive minutes, and neither is Sauer/McDonagh.
Derek Morris will get at least a million more than 2 mil.

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It will, unfortunately, take more than that package to get us seguin....it will take a lot more.
Even if we have the 5th pick? Hey, my ears are open if I'm Sather. We have enough 'good' prospects, we need a future superstar now!

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Poti is a former first round pick, who has carved out a pretty good NHL career. He didn't really fit in here, but he's certainly playering an important role on a team that might very well win the President's Trophy.

If Gilroy can do anywhere near as well, he'll have a decent career in the NHL. However, he has to progress rapidly from here and I don't know if he can. One thing I do know: if he's here next year, he will be blocking another prospect (most likely Sangs) from winning a roster spot. I seriously doubt the Rangers can afford to add another rookie with such a young defense.
Poti was a 3rd round pick (59th overall) in '96.

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Didn't see this posted anywhere else...From USA Today

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Here is Red Line''s list of the top available college free agents:

4. Lee Baldwin/LD Alaska Anchorage, 6-4/203, April 22, 1988 (Fresh.)

Tall and mobile freshman blue-liner plays beyond his years and in all situations. Smooth skater is nimble on his feet. Head-mans the puck cleanly and remains poised, making safe decisions under pressure. Supports the offensive rush and opportunistically pinches into openings from the point. Has a great reach and plays with sensible physicality, but isn't a consistent force yet and has a lot of bulk yet to be added to his massive frame.

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He signed an ATO with Hartford today, so we could get a look as soon as this weekend.

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Now the Rangers have the top 47 young dmen in all of hockey. The rest of the league wishes they had it so good.

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The 6-foot-3, 215-pounder showed some encouraging signs offensively this season and he gets around the ice pretty well, but like most young defenseman needs plenty of work in his own zone.

Turning pro will deliver him twice as many games as he would get in college, so presumably that will help hasten his development.
Read more: http://community.adn.com/adn/node/150807#ixzz0j5oRvPvG

If Baldwin plays in HFD next season(instead of the ECHL),he joins Sam Klassen and Tomas Kundratek as first year pros. Ryan McDonagh could make it 4 first year pros if he signs and is assigned to the AHL.

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