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03-24-2010, 02:08 AM
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Might go check him out when he hits Victoria next week...can't see him going to the Moose.

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http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/...148/story.html

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"We looked at Garry but we're holding that position for Prab Rai," said Salmon Kings GM and head coach Mark Morrison.

"We would love to have Rai here but his situation is up in the air."

That's because the Surrey native and 2008 Vancouver Canucks fifth-round draft pick has yet to sign with the Canucks. He can't be assigned anywhere in the organization until he does. He is coming off a 41-goal season in the WHL, so why would he give the Canucks a second look -- chancing a slow start as a pro in the ECHL -- before guaranteeing himself some security first by putting his name on an NHL contract?

"His signing is up to Vancouver and I'm not sure where they are with that at the moment," said Morrison.
Obviously from a few days ago, as I don't doubt capgeek on such a minor signing...

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03-24-2010, 04:27 AM
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Being of indian descent, I'm hoping this guy makes it. It's going to be tough as he has ALOT of areas to work on but it would be great to see this guy make it.

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03-24-2010, 04:44 AM
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Just like he knew Ellington was going to make it?

They've signed Rai because they're not willing to give up on him yet and they want to bolster their minor league teams. The chances of him making the NHL are extremely slim, although they're not completely extinguished.
Newsflash, GM's don't sign their own draft picks to contracts just to be farm club pluggers, they sign any ole free agent hanging around for that, it's a waste of a contract anyway if they don't think much of the player, they might as well deal the pick.

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Newsflash, GM's don't sign their own draft picks to contracts just to be farm club pluggers, they sign any ole free agent hanging around for that, it's a waste of a contract anyway if they don't think much of the player, they might as well deal the pick.
That is not correct.

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03-24-2010, 10:03 AM
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Yeah it is, they have broken a lot of minor and entry level signings.
Eklund has also broken a bunch of trades as well. Do you consider him to be a great source?

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03-24-2010, 10:21 AM
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fail, GM's sign players to contracts all the time but it doesnt mean they make the NHL..Walsky? Volpatti is not even close to being a shoe..hell what about Shirokov. Couldnt cut it this year..


I've said this before and would be gladly be proven wrong in the Future but Prab Rai does not have the skill and strength to be an impact NHL player. I dont want to deal with his character either...I mean who the hell demands a trade from a WHL team? who does he think he is.

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03-24-2010, 10:24 AM
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I think if you look at Rai since he left that dreadful Prince George team he has done nothing but produce. The guy has put up point per game seasons in the WHL, the lastest one with 41 goals. He is blessed with a lot of natural talent and athleticism, speed, hands, good instincts, etc.; these are things you can't teach (a good athletic pedigree as well as his father was an Olympic athelete on Canada's national field hockey team, winning a gold medal at the PanAm games).

The "character issues" around leaving the PG Cougars should also be considered in the context that he did it as a 16 year old, with the advice and support of his parents. If he had not been traded to Seattle, he would not likely have been drafted, so how can you blame a player for acting in his own best interest when the window of opportunity is so short. And it's not like when he went to Seattle he stepped onto a talent laden team either - he had George Holloway and Greg Scott (an undrafted over-ager) for wingers.

He has been criticized as being a perimeter player - so are Grabner, Raymond, Shirokov and Schroeder. He has bulked up considerably since his draft year and a couple of years in Manitoba will do him a lot of good. It's not like Scott Arniel is unfamiliar with developing skilled, speedy forwards who shy away from physical play.

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03-24-2010, 10:25 AM
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Eklund has also broken a bunch of trades as well. Do you consider him to be a great source?
I'm not sure how many hits capgeek would expect to get from making up a Prab Rai rumour.

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03-24-2010, 10:32 AM
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He has been criticized as being a perimeter player - so are Grabner, Raymond, Shirokov and Schroeder. He has bulked up considerably since his draft year and a couple of years in Manitoba will do him a lot of good. It's not like Scott Arniel is unfamiliar with developing skilled, speedy forwards who shy away from physical play.
I think the biggest problem has been his showing during camps... he just looks worse than most of our other prospects and always seems to have hands of stone. Perhaps the pressure gets to him or perhaps he truly doesn't have what it takes.

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I think the biggest problem has been his showing during camps... he just looks worse than most of our other prospects and always seems to have hands of stone. Perhaps the pressure gets to him or perhaps he truly doesn't have what it takes.
or perhaps he's just way too far off from being even close to NHL ready and has to work on several areas of his game.

I don't doubt that Rai is a longshot to make it. Much like Gendur was when he was signed a couple years ago, despite the hype he got coming in - and who actually looked good in his second camp IIRC. More than anything though, I'm interested in seeing how the organization develops him over the next few years... he clearly has some tools and has been successful in lower levels, and as such he's hardly a write-off, despite being a longshot.

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or perhaps he's just way too far off from being even close to NHL ready and has to work on several areas of his game.

I don't doubt that Rai is a longshot to make it. Much like Gendur was when he was signed a couple years ago, despite the hype he got coming in - and who actually looked good in his second camp IIRC. More than anything though, I'm interested in seeing how the organization develops him over the next few years... he clearly has some tools and has been successful in lower levels, and as such he's hardly a write-off, despite being a longshot.
I think I worded my post badly. I definitely think he needs more development time and am not writing him off. Just don't think he should be mentioned in the same sentence as Raymond — at this point he's a much more of a longshot than Raymond ever was.

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03-24-2010, 10:47 AM
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At one point the Moose only had 3 players born in 87 or later on the roster, probably the lowest total in the AHL - Grabner Oberg and Bliznak.

Next year should be better but gaping holes in 88 and 89 players - most likely Oberg and Ellington will be the only 88/89's drafted or signed as a free agent to play for the Moose, and unless Oberg makes it, Canucks will never have an 88 or 89 drafted or signed by them on the roster - out of 20 or so players that could or were potentially drafted.

Ouch - good job, Dave Nonis.
Raymond's in the NHL.
Edler's in the NHL.
Hansen's in the NHL.
Grabner's in the NHL.
Schneider and Shirokov are arguably the best players on the Moose.

Ellington should be in the AHL next season, Kablukov is doing well in Russia and Matson is doing well in U of Minnesota.

Nonis turned our abysmal prospect pool around and drafted some young players to get excited about - the first time in a long time for this franchise. He also got the pieces necessary to acquire Ehrhoff and O'Brien.

But yeah, **** him.

Good for Prab, by the way.


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03-24-2010, 11:23 AM
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Here is an interview with a blogger who followed Rai with the Seattle Thunderbirds:
http://canuckshockeyblog.com/?p=3156

Thom Beuning, who chronicled the T-Birds in his “In The Corners” blog says of Rai's future:
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If I was a Canucks fan and Prab were to sign I’d caution against expecting him to make the quick leap to the big club. It might take a season or two at the lower levels. But if he continues to commit himself to improving his physical play, I think he has the mental make up to be a solid contributer in the NHL.

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I think I worded my post badly. I definitely think he needs more development time and am not writing him off. Just don't think he should be mentioned in the same sentence as Raymond — at this point he's a much more of a longshot than Raymond ever was.
While he is certainly more of a long shot than Raymond (a 2nd round pick who absolutely dazzled scouts at the 2005 RBC Cup), his odds of being an NHLer are probably no worse than Rodin's. Rai has the advantage over Rodin of playing lots of minutes in all sorts of situations, albeit against junior players rather than adults. Hopefully Rodin will either move up the depth chart or jump to the AHL next season.

It's likely Rai will go to Victoria for the remainder of the season, and will challenge to make the Moose next year. Although the Moose are so weak at centre right now (Rosa, Schroeder, Stastny, Bliznak - Walsky is in Victoria currently) there is a slight chance he reports to the Moose, but Victoria is more likely as Arniel already has already had to get new additions Stasny and Schroeder into the lineup.

Next season the competition at Centre on the Moose will include Schroeder, Stastny, Walsky, Rai and Bliznak - and I'm sure that Craig Heisinger will try to bring back Rosa and at least 1 more AHL veteran. The Canucks also have to make a decision on Bolduc who would be on the Manitoba roster if he were healthy. So with lots of competition at centre, Rai will have to produce or remain in Victoria.

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03-24-2010, 11:33 AM
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Eklund has also broken a bunch of trades as well. Do you consider him to be a great source?
Except Eklund gets about 99% of them wrong.

Capgeek.com is pretty much spot on. And they provide details of the three year ELC:
http://www.capgeek.com/players/displ...id=89972&pos=F

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Raymond's in the NHL.
Edler's in the NHL.
Hansen's in the NHL.
Grabner's in the NHL.
Schneider and Shirokov are arguably the best players on the Moose.

Ellington should be in the AHL next season, Kablukov is doing well in Russia and Matson is doing well in U of Minnesota.

Nonis turned our abysmal prospect pool around and drafted some young players to get excited about - the first time in a long time for this franchise. He also got the pieces necessary to acquire Ehrhoff and O'Brien.

But yeah, **** him.

Good for Prab, by the way.
THank you, about time a real analysis was done showing some decent DEPTH we have.

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I think this means the Canucks have 26 players under contract for next season with 13 RFAs. Assuming they are all re-signed, the Canucks will still have 11 contracts to hand out...correct? I don't see any reason to panic about reaching the contract limit just yet.

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Eklund has also broken a bunch of trades as well. Do you consider him to be a great source?
Eklund rarely breaks trades and gets a lot wrong. Cap Geek is never wrong.

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Eklund rarely breaks trades and gets a lot wrong. Cap Geek is never wrong.
Seems Capgeek got it right - the Canucks now confirm the signing:
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm...twt-vancanucks

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Being of indian descent, I'm hoping this guy makes it. It's going to be tough as he has ALOT of areas to work on but it would be great to see this guy make it.
Gotta get him some steroids so he can bulk up.

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Gotta get him some steroids so he can bulk up.
I heard of this chiropractor in the Washington DC area who apparently has some connections...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...032302421.html

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Is he related to Priya Rai?

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