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03-25-2010, 09:14 AM
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Kesler just got $5m per over 6 years according to McKenzie. Some people here keep speculating that Carter might go to the $7.00m range. As I said before, there's not much of a chance that Carter goes right up to or past Briere's price in a long-term deal. I suspect $5.75m for Carter locked up for a relatively long time sort of like a Richards' deal. $6m per if it's under 4 years.

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25 year old right hand shot, 6'3, 40 goal scorer and 1st line material, with around 50% faceoffs, PPG player in last two seasons with decent two way game can not get 7M?

Why not? Because Kesler got 5? Is that the only reason?

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I could live with Carter at $6.

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I could live with Carter at $6.
Carter at 6 is fine.

But we have... Briere... ugh

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Carter at 6 is fine.

But we have... Briere... ugh
Worst contract ever.

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Not ever. But it severely hampers us in so many ways. Its going to be tough to kiss Giroux or JVR good bye cuz we have Danny ****ing Briere eating the cap.

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Not ever. But it severely hampers us in so many ways. Its going to be tough to kiss Giroux or JVR good bye cuz we have Danny ****ing Briere eating the cap.
Exactly.

It's an abomination of a contract.

Thanks Homer!

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Worst contract ever.
Wade Redden.

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Not ever. But it severely hampers us in so many ways. Its going to be tough to kiss Giroux or JVR good bye cuz we have Danny ****ing Briere eating the cap.
what can you do.

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Wade Redden.
does the Redden contract have a full NTC and NMC?

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does the Redden contract have a full NTC and NMC?
He can list 8 teams he won't go to. Still worse than the Briere contract though considering he's actually bad enough to get healthy scratched. At least Briere makes some contributions on the ice.


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He can list 8 teams he won't go to. Still not as bad as the Briere contract though considering he's actually bad enough to get healthy scratched. At least Briere makes some contributions on the ice.
You lost me...

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You lost me...
Oops. Not sure what circuits misfired in my brain there. Going back to edit in 3... 2... 1...

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well briere shows up for the playoffs so thats good. he may not really help us get there, but when we do he shows up. still not worth his contract. not much you can do besides hope he picks it up. but he needs someone to get him the puck, not hartnell who slap shots a pass anywhere doing a barrel roll.

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Basically Blair Betts (700k) + 200k for free.

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Gagne (5.25) - Briere (6.50) - Leino (0.80)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Richards (5.75) - Giroux (0.82)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxx - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)

Pronger (4.92) - Carle (3.44)
Timonen (6.33) - xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxx - Bartulis (0.60)

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Boucher (0.93)

Total: 48.05m
Cap: 57.70m
Space: 09.65m

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Gagne (5.25) - Briere (6.50) - Leino (0.80)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Richards (5.75) - Giroux (0.82)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxx - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)

Pronger (4.92) - Carle (3.44)
Timonen (6.33) - xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxx - Bartulis (0.60)

xxxxxxxxxx
Boucher (0.93)

Total: 48.05m
Cap: 57.70m
Space: 09.65m
This is gonna be a bit of rant, as I am thinking out loud.
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We could move Carle (3.44) for a 1st round pick or some sort of prospect.
We could then resign Coburn for around 1.75-2M for around 3 years.
Bring back Lukas Krajicek for 1 year at 1M
Parent and Carcillo come back for around 1M

We then sign Dan Ellis for 2 years, around 4.4M. (2.2m/per)
Move Boucher either to AHL or to another team. Just get rid of him.
Bring back Leighton for 1 year at 900K.

Sign Saku Koivu for 3 years at 2.1M/per or 1 year for 2.3M

vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Richards (5.75) - Giroux (0.82)
Gagne (5.25) - Carter (5.00)- Briere (6.50)
Hartnell (4.20) - Koivu(2.1) - Leino(.80)
Carcillo(1) - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)


Pronger(4.92)-Coburn(2)
Timonen(6.33)-Krajicek(1)
Parent(1)-Bartulis(.60)

Ellis(2.2)
Leighton (.9)

Total = 53.88
Cap = 57.70m

I must have messed up somewhere....

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I must have messed up somewhere....
Just where you thought Holmgren can find a team willing to give a first for Carle. You were going great until then.

I like your proposals beyond that, though I hope Ellis wouldn't be Plan A.

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Just where you thought Holmgren can find a team willing to give a first for Carle. You were going great until then.

I like your proposals beyond that, though I hope Ellis wouldn't be Plan A.
Some team in the late 1st might give up a 1st for him. He is a good puck mover, but slightly overpaid. Some teams in the world have this stuff called "cap room."

I mean, Steve Eminger was moved for a 1st to someone....wait.....that was Homer....

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I know Ottawa and New York (I) are both probably interested in Carle. Maybe some Western teams too.

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Gagne (5.25) - Briere (6.50) - Leino (0.80)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Richards (5.75) - Giroux (0.82)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - xxxxxxxxxx
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Pronger (4.92) - Carle (3.44)
Timonen (6.33) - xxxxxxxxxx
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Boucher (0.93)

Total: 48.05m
Cap: 57.70m
Space: 09.65m
add: carcillo for 1 mill
coburn: 2mill
kraijek: 1.5mill
bring up someone to play on carters wing (maybe testwuide?): 0.8 mill

that leaves us with 4.3 mill, so lets just round that to 4 in case some people get more than above. 4 million for a starting goaltender. Its doable I think, but its not gonna be easy.

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What if we got Recchi back and he retired for the orange and the black?

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Add Turco and 2nd line RW with good size 6'2 and over, Fedotenko or Poni type. 20 goal scorer would be nice but probably out of our league.

Resign everyone else (with exception of Asham) including Coburn, Carcillo, Parent and Powe. Thats all we need going next year. imo

Also, get a new head coach for Phantoms.

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Um....
The real question is... where the hell did JVR and Carter go? lol

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