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03-26-2010, 05:56 PM
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This worries me, if Laviolette isn't confirming that Backlund is starting, does that mean that Holmgren made the call?

If so, why have a coach?

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They're 32-16 with goaltenders other than Boucher in net. They're in the top 3rd in the league in offense and they're 5th in the league in shots allowed per game. That's hardly heartless.

The bottom line is Boucher is killing their season . . . unless someone stops it. That would be the coach's job. Last time I checked he determines which goalie starts. His other option: A 28 year old who has put up fine numbers in the SEL and has been Sweden's goalie in the World Championships. Not exactly a garbage can.
Do you even bother to watch the games? Boucher has sucked lately, but you're a fool if you completely blame him for his losing record. The last time he got an opportunity to start the offense was in the middle of their worst slump of the season where they were averaging less than 2 goals per game during that stretch.

The Flyers were also playing mediocre hockey since the break and were headed towards yet another offensive slump. This stretch was all too predictable to anyone who has been paying attention since the break.

Briere: 3 goals, 7 points, -8 in 14 games
Hartnell: 2 goals, 7 points, -10 in 14 games
Giroux: 1 goal, 4 points, -10 in 14 games
JVR: 1 goal, 1 point, -5 in 14 games

Outside of Richards and Gagne our skilled forwards have done squat all month long.

I'm not trying to excuse Boucher, but it certainly is not all on him. If this team wasn't coasting since the break they'd be in a better position even with Boucher.

Boucher killed us last night, but if the team doesn't let up in the 3rd they would have likely won that game. They went from 29 shots in the first two periods to 6 shots in the 3rd. This team is a joke and Boucher is just a convenient scapegoat to cover up for this heartless bunch.

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03-26-2010, 06:04 PM
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This worries me, if Laviolette isn't confirming that Backlund is starting, does that mean that Holmgren made the call?

If so, why have a coach?
Anything could be possible regarding the animated conversation. But it isn't the first time Laviolette has been reluctant to disclose personnel matters in advance. GM-Coach relationships can get heated, that wouldn't be anything new in sports.

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03-26-2010, 06:06 PM
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Do you even bother to watch the games? Boucher has sucked lately, but you're a fool if you completely blame him for his losing record. The last time he got an opportunity to start the offense was in the middle of their worst slump of the season where they were averaging less than 2 goals per game during that stretch.

The Flyers were also playing mediocre hockey since the break and were headed towards yet another offensive slump. This stretch was all too predictable to anyone who has been paying attention since the break.

Briere: 3 goals, 7 points, -8 in 14 games
Hartnell: 2 goals, 7 points, -10 in 14 games
Giroux: 1 goal, 4 points, -10 in 14 games
JVR: 1 goal, 1 point, -5 in 14 games

Outside of Richards and Gagne our skilled forwards have done squat all month long.

I'm not trying to excuse Boucher, but it certainly is not all on him. If this team wasn't coasting since the break they'd be in a better position even with Boucher.

Boucher killed us last night, but if the team doesn't let up in the 3rd they would have likely won that game. They went from 29 shots in the first two periods to 6 shots in the 3rd. This team is a joke and Boucher is just a convenient scapegoat to cover up for this heartless bunch.
Hell, they blew a 2 goal lead against Anaheim at the start of the year and lost in the shootout. Guess that was Boucher's fault, too...I mean, he was on the bench.

This team has played inconsistent all season long. They negate their own talent with laziness and stupidity.

Boucher is one reason they are not a good team. He's one of about 20 reasons.

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This worries me, if Laviolette isn't confirming that Backlund is starting, does that mean that Holmgren made the call?

If so, why have a coach?
It could also mean that Panotch is full of it. I remember Laviolette wouldn't confirm the goalie for the Chicago game. The media including the Flyers web site thought it would be Boucher in net, but Leighton started.

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03-26-2010, 06:22 PM
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It could also mean that Panotch is full of it. I remember Laviolette wouldn't confirm the goalie for the Chicago game. The media including the Flyers web site thought it would be Boucher in net, but Leighton started.
Could be true, but I have a really annoying gut feeling that Holmgren micromanages the Hell out of the hockey operations side of things.

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03-26-2010, 06:25 PM
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In high school we sang the Spanish version in one of my Spanish classes like 3 times because it has some form of conjugation that I never really learned lol.

I'm trying to decide whether to do something fun tomorrow or watch this game. This doesn't make it easier, as it might be the only chance to see Backlund play.

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I'm hoping for Backlund as well! I'm going to the Pens-Flyers game tomorrow. I was planning on cheering every time the Pens scored until Backlund got put into the game, which I figure would be around the 5 minute mark of the first.

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I want to give Carter "Weekend Warrior" Hutton a shot.
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If someone would have said to me preseason that the team would take a huge nose dive when Micheal Leighton gets injured I would have not believed them. If someone tells me that the team will excel under Backlund I won't believe them now. Here's to hoping I'm wrong.

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Do you even bother to watch the games? Boucher has sucked lately, but you're a fool if you completely blame him for his losing record. The last time he got an opportunity to start the offense was in the middle of their worst slump of the season where they were averaging less than 2 goals per game during that stretch.

The Flyers were also playing mediocre hockey since the break and were headed towards yet another offensive slump. This stretch was all too predictable to anyone who has been paying attention since the break.

Briere: 3 goals, 7 points, -8 in 14 games
Hartnell: 2 goals, 7 points, -10 in 14 games
Giroux: 1 goal, 4 points, -10 in 14 games
JVR: 1 goal, 1 point, -5 in 14 games

Outside of Richards and Gagne our skilled forwards have done squat all month long.

I'm not trying to excuse Boucher, but it certainly is not all on him. If this team wasn't coasting since the break they'd be in a better position even with Boucher.

Boucher killed us last night, but if the team doesn't let up in the 3rd they would have likely won that game. They went from 29 shots in the first two periods to 6 shots in the 3rd. This team is a joke and Boucher is just a convenient scapegoat to cover up for this heartless bunch.
I have been but from now on I won't and just come to these boards and let you tell me what to think.

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Well, the good part is that if the Pens win 8-0, we can say it was because we were on our 4th string goalie, even though, it would be 8-0 against our 3rd string as well. They ought to go ahead and play all the phantoms anyway, to give the Pens a hollow victory. With the way the forwards are playing it couldn't be much worse.

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If someone would have said to me preseason that the team would take a huge nose dive when Micheal Leighton gets injured I would have not believed them. If someone tells me that the team will excel under Backlund I won't believe them now. Here's to hoping I'm wrong.
Here's the rest of the schedule:

Pittsburgh tomorrow
New Jersey Sunday
Isles Thursday
4/2 Habs
4/4 Detroit
4/6 Toronto
4/9 & 11 Rangers

Pittsburgh and Jersey are battling each other for the division crown. Neither is going to be resting guys against the Flyers.

The Isles is a game they should win, but You know the Isles would love to end the Flyers streak of dominating them.

Montreal and Detroit are still fighting to make the playoffs. Toronto has played very well of late, and have nothing to lose.

As for the Rangers, Avery gets geeked out of his skull for the Flyers and they buy right into his act.

Now the Flyers are in full on panic mode, have no confidence and are as fragile mentally as Britney Spears when she's off her Xanax. It could be a really, really ugly end to the season.

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He can't be worse than Booosh has been the past few games..can he?

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Here's the rest of the schedule:

Pittsburgh tomorrow
New Jersey Sunday
Isles Thursday
4/2 Habs
4/4 Detroit
4/6 Toronto
4/9 & 11 Rangers

Pittsburgh and Jersey are battling each other for the division crown. Neither is going to be resting guys against the Flyers.

The Isles is a game they should win, but You know the Isles would love to end the Flyers streak of dominating them.

Montreal and Detroit are still fighting to make the playoffs. Toronto has played very well of late, and have nothing to lose.

As for the Rangers, Avery gets geeked out of his skull for the Flyers and they buy right into his act.

Now the Flyers are in full on panic mode, have no confidence and are as fragile mentally as Britney Spears when she's off her Xanax. It could be a really, really ugly end to the season.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

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People say it's not a good situation for Backlund.

If we lose, we expected to get killed.

If we win, everyone will be tickled pink.

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Could be true, but I have a really annoying gut feeling that Holmgren micromanages the Hell out of the hockey operations side of things.
I wouldn't be surprised if he does.

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I have been but from now on I won't and just come to these boards and let you tell me what to think.
Nice to see you can refute my statements with facts.

I just think it's stupid to blame it all on Boucher when their lack of offense is just as big of a problem. If you want to blame him for yesterday's game, that's understandable, but I think scapegoating him is just as ridiculous as the idiots who act like Biron is an AHL goalie because he had some bad games.

I'm not trying to absolve Boucher because hell I've been unhappy with our goaltending situation and was pissed when Holmgren failed to acquire a goalie at the deadline because I feared a situation like this, but Boucher is just one of many problems with this team. When most of your skilled forwards go MIA you're not going to win many games.

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i dont see the problem it isnt exactly like the guy is a rookie. hes played years for the swedish elite league and thats nothing to turn your nose up at. hes an adequate goalie.

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At least if Flyers lose, then Boucher can feel vindicated and that is not all his fault.

If Flyers win, then I don't give a ****! We WON!!!!!

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According to TSN, Malkin won't be playing tomorrow, and Gonchar is still questionable, so the Flyers and Backlund might keep the score to single digits.

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i dont see the problem it isnt exactly like the guy is a rookie. hes played years for the swedish elite league and thats nothing to turn your nose up at. hes an adequate goalie.
The problem is more the team than the goalie.

Yes, against Minnesota, Boucher's **** play was a huge factor, but this team is inconsistent, plays 30-40 minutes a night, and seems to have no recognition that no team will win if the half-ass things as much as they do.

Everyone hopes Backlund plays great, but if he does, it's only masking serious issues that need addressing

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yes but when you read previous posts people are concerned with him being a rookie. it really isnt the case

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Ohhh the Pens so scared.....they can't buy a win either, should be physical early, give Backs a shot, Boosh is so bad, no more sticking up for him, he sucks, horrible, he will not be in this league next year.

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yes but when you read previous posts people are concerned with him being a rookie. it really isnt the case
I think that it's a really bad spot to give him his first NHL start, but it is what it is. They're desperate to make the playoffs, and Boucher isn't going to be capable of doing that. Backlund is the next guy on the chart

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Ohhh the Pens so scared.....they can't buy a win either, should be physical early, give Backs a shot, Boosh is so bad, no more sticking up for him, he sucks, horrible, he will not be in this league next year.
It's almost embarrassing

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