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03-27-2010, 06:24 AM
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No, it's both... Where's the veteran leadership on our blueline for our young defensemen? Which players are responding well to Drury because he just had to label his teammates immature?
Be specific.

You ask where the veteran leadership is on our blueline. My point is that there is no one. That's a personnel problem, not a leadership problem, You can't create leaders. They either are leaders or they are not leaders.

Which players are not responding well that should be playing better than they are, not what you hope they become? Keep in mind that you almost by definition have to confine yourself to the younger players because the older ones should no longer need it.

Anisimov, Dubinsky, Callahan, Staal, and Del Zotto have all matched or exceeded realistic expectations.

Drury has become a whipping boy because fans always need a whipping boy. He was always a supporting, clutch player. Here he is being asked to do more than he ever has done. Bring us Sakic and Forsberg in their prime and Drury would be just fine.

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03-27-2010, 10:19 AM
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Really great to see. After how long this team has played like complete ****, Henke deserves to blow a fuse on them, I would have done this alot earlier.

It seems like Hank is becoming the leader of the locker room, which doesn't surprise me at all.

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03-27-2010, 12:45 PM
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Henrik is already acting like the captain. I think he should be captain next year.

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About time Hank did this. Poor guy wants to make the playoffs so bad.

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03-27-2010, 03:56 PM
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Henrik is already acting like the captain. I think he should be captain next year.


NHL rules are goalies cannot be real captains. They can only pretend to be captains. If you like Henrik why would you want him to look stupid? Lundqvist doesn't need to pretend to be a captain, he already is a leader without pretending.

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I would do 3 A's who do the talking on the bench and with the officials, and have Lundqvist as the unofficial captain of the team.

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03-27-2010, 05:39 PM
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Top ten goalies - but there are a lot of other players out there that play other positions, no?
Thought we were just comparing him to other goalies.

I never really comapred Goalies & skaters before. I've always had them in seperate Catargories.

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03-27-2010, 05:41 PM
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NHL rules are goalies cannot be real captains. They can only pretend to be captains. If you like Henrik why would you want him to look stupid? Lundqvist doesn't need to pretend to be a captain, he already is a leader without pretending.
There already doing this in Vancover...Is it really necesarry to addd more responsiblites to a Goalies already laundry list of things he has to do? I say no.

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03-27-2010, 06:24 PM
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Lundqvist is already well-respected in the locker room and has proved that he is a leader. What is giving him the "C" going to do, asides from making it a mockery like Luongo in Vancouver? Putting the "C" on his helmet won't change anything, one can lead without wearing a letter.

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03-28-2010, 09:24 PM
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Thought it was interesting that he mentioned Avery. That shows a bit of leadership from Aves and some confidence in Henrik concerning Avery.

This has to be killing Torts though. For a couple of those years in Tampa he had garbage goaltending and the team in front of the goalie was amazing... Had nights where they gave up so few shots. Now he has the goalie but the team in front of the goalie is just lacking.

High end talent is the huge issue so hopefully that changes.
Lightning fan here.

You pretty much got it spot on. Torts has the goalie he needs in order for his system to succeed but not the offensive talent. You guys gotta build around Gaborik, but I'm sure many of you already know that.

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03-30-2010, 06:41 AM
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Henke is a leader. HE is the heart and soul of this team. Without a doubt. I don't think that there's anyone more influential on the team than Henke......

And it shows.

That's why we have a mostly spineless, heartless team. When this guy is the main "Leader", you know why this team routinely comes up soft and gutless.

He'd be better off shutting the **** up and focusing on stopping the puck.

When you all too often give up mind-boggling, weak, soft, putrid goals at the most crucial big moments; you need to oput a sock in it and clean up your own front yard.


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03-30-2010, 06:44 AM
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Really great to see. After how long this team has played like complete ****, Henke deserves to blow a fuse on them, I would have done this alot earlier.

It seems like Hank is becoming the leader of the locker room, which doesn't surprise me at all.
He's played like c*** so many times this season, choked in so many big moments and big games; that it's ridiculous that he should open his mouth.

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03-30-2010, 06:59 AM
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This has to be killing Torts though. For a couple of those years in Tampa he had garbage goaltending and the team in front of the goalie was amazing... Had nights where they gave up so few shots. Now he has the goalie but the team in front of the goalie is just lacking.

High end talent is the huge issue so hopefully that changes.
You mean like all those nights where Hank sees 13....16....18....20 shots the whole game and gives up....three...four...five goals per game?

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03-30-2010, 11:59 AM
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You mean like all those nights where Hank sees 13....16....18....20 shots the whole game and gives up....three...four...five goals per game?
In games Henrik gave up 3 or more goals (25 games, 3 wins) and faced 20 shots or less; it happened 4 times.

When he gives up 2 or less goals (41 games), the team lost 14 times, 6 in OT

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That was one hell of a display of leadership, heart and soul; last night. On Lundqvist's part, of course.

Yeah, he's quite the inspiration.

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03-31-2010, 08:28 AM
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That was one hell of a display of leadership, heart and soul; last night. On Lundqvist's part, of course.

Yeah, he's quite the inspiration.
How about responding to the post above you, that contains actual facts?

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03-31-2010, 09:03 AM
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Lundqvist down the stretch run the past 11 games (I used 11 because that's his playing streak right now):

5-5-1; 2.56 GAA; .911 sv%

Although, numbers can be misleading because if you've watched the games you know what's being asked of Lundqvist. Anybody whose in here doubting the fact that he's going to do everything he can to get this team into the playoffs clearly has not been watching the Rangers since the lockout.

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