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Rome was not built in a day

Neither will this next CBA IMO

So if both sides keep that in mind .. I think personally they are attempting too many things at the very start .. Grow into them over the time of this CBA. Rather then triggers that pick one or the other have triggers that set various new mutually agreed upon issues into place as the market dictates .

Define the objectives first ..

1) You need a Owner Partnership first for Revenue Sharing among teams to stabilize them and stop the bleeding.

2) You need a system that has the ability to force owners to open the books and an independent 3rd party source audit/auditors agreed on and accepted by both sides to build trust..

3) You need to find a method to bring Big Market teams Salaries down and Small Market Salaries up ..to work towards salary parity.

4) You need to correct the current market Salaries bringing them lower and in line with the current market..

5) You need to find a way to make the players partners in the business eventually after trust has been established, and market stabilized ..

6) You needed to address issue like Arbitration, RFA Qualifying and UFA in the system that is fair and workable from both sides .

7) You need to have plans in place to recover from the lockout fallout from fans with decreased revenue for years almost assured ..

8) You need to test Bettman's theory that some of these Small or Non Hockey markets can survive on their own..

9) You need to show the plan to achieve a Big National TV contract.. Basically making Bettman's reveal his ..HOW DOES HE PLAN TO GROW THE GAME THEORY ..as it relates to this CBA .. You just can't take current money from Players now give it to owners that originally came from the fans ..and say that fixes the long-term problem. because it doesn't, that is just as bad as NHLPA proposal that does not address the systemic problems ..You basically need to find more fans to share more money, not only methods to divide up a shrinking Revenue Pie.

10)You need to find Parity not only in theory of equal Salaries but also equal quality on the ice .. So all teams are competitive .. The NYR proved hat $$$ does not equal success and so did teams like Calgary with their Playoff performance.

11) You need to improve the game finding ways to eliminate the trap systems, and increase the entertainment value and put the oweness' on the players to generate offense not coaches to stagnate and suffocate it ..

12) You need to find ways to make this up to the fans for this mess that will not leave permanent are unrecoverable damage from the lockout

etc etc etc ..

I believe that you just can't fix everything by tomorrow and have both sides sign off and be happy on a New CBA .. This needs to be a 5-6 year CBA that phases in these objectives over the time of the CBA as certain goals and benchmarks are reached and most importantly trust is built on both sides.


The GOAL

Is to create and grow the NHL throughout North America. You need to create a market for players to be happy in and owners to make profit across all 30 teams in.


You need to be consider the Game for the sake of the Fans in all this as they are the ones that pay the bills on both sides.

This will require both sides working together to solve and address the issues that exist on both sides for the betterment of the game and not this polar opposite nonsense we have now, that services little to no purpose but alienated all parties involved further ..

You need an NHL were all 3 partners Players, Owners and Fans are happy .. IMO ..

and

If the current negotiating Members and parties involved can't accomplish that by putting aside their silly petty differences . then they need to be replaced with people that can for the good of the game ..

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CONTRACTION !! CONTACTION !! CONTRACTION !! CONTRACTION !!

Then once these trashy teams are gone, we get a fantasy draft. We a short term CBA (say 2 yrs) to try the player's previous offer and we get a auditor (trust by both like you said) and if they are still losing money they can change it.

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CONTRACTION !! CONTACTION !! CONTRACTION !! CONTRACTION !!

Then once these trashy teams are gone, we get a fantasy draft. We a short term CBA (say 2 yrs) to try the player's previous offer and we get a auditor (trust by both like you said) and if they are still losing money they can change it.
If for the good of the game it takes contraction if history proves that small non-hockey markets can't build a fan base and survive then so be it if its in the best interest of the game ..

I can give a really strong argument as to why despite losing NHL jobs contraction can stop this Fan fallout from a lockout by changing the direction ..

HERE IS MY - I AM JUST A FAN ** SOAP BOX SPEACH **

I am just a fan who believes that expansion has watered down the game that I love to watch with a passion.

As a fan .. Why would I care if there are 30 teams or 24 remaining after this lockout holocaust ??..

With 24 Teams they all would be stronger financially and stronger on the ice as the good players on the contracted/bankrupt teams would be added to the remaining surviving ones. Resulting in the players on those teams that are career minor leaguers to once again return to where they belong. As I firmly believe you are only as Strong as your Weakest link ..

I would rather see Jerome Iginla setting up Ilya Kovalchuk in Calgary for a highlight reel goal then to see Calgary setting up the trap to prohibit Atlanta's Kovalchuk from scoring, while Iginla is taking passes from 40 year old Dave Lowry and goon Chris Simon to try to get the Flames a win..

I bet you Revenue and attendance in Calgary post lockout would soar upwards to see Ilya and Jerome on the same team then playing against each other .. and so would I if I was tuning into a HNIC Canada double header game on TV .. I might even renew my Centre Ice Hockey Package and catch the Flames during the week to see that in fact .. Imagine that excitement from a fan perspective post lockout ..

I don't care if NHL players jobs are lost as I am not a player and I don't care if Teams are lost as I am not an owner, but as as a FAN who is paying the bill on both sides I care what I am paying for ..

I am a fan and the only part of this whole Fiasco that I am interested in that begs the question - "What's in it for me"? ...

I think Bettman's tearing down the strong for the sake of the weak already on life support is a very poor business decision ..and after all the dust settles will make the NHL game a far less entertaining product on the Ice and profitable one in the books, and when these teams fail and I firmly believe they will, which will result in Bettman's head and firing...Fans then we will be locked into a 6 year CBA, without the head of the monster that created it around to blame any longer ..

So that is why I want to see the PLAN .. MR. Bettman that will convince me otherwise ..

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Also doesn't the NFL allow owners to move their teams on will. While the NHL lets the team die where they are, then allow a relcoate maybe a year of a team at Nashville then another at Columbus would allow the owner to earn some money while the novelty is avail. Although this would 'cause trouble with arenas.

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