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04-05-2010, 07:08 PM
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heh. no thanks. that's about as polite as I can be.

Tyutin straight up for Carle is something I'd be up for. Philly saves about a million in cap at the cost of slightly downgrading at D.
philly takes on salary in the deal i proposed. shedding space isnt a factor.

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heh. no thanks. that's about as polite as I can be.

Tyutin straight up for Carle is something I'd be up for. Philly saves about a million in cap at the cost of slightly downgrading at D.
I'd do Tyutin for Carle straight-up. I'd see if I could get a late pick or something in addition though.

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heh. no thanks. that's about as polite as I can be.

Tyutin straight up for Carle is something I'd be up for. Philly saves about a million in cap at the cost of slightly downgrading at D.
What about without Filatov?

And I wouldn't mind Tyutin, since he is more of a 2 way D, Carle's offense is pretty wasted here behind Pronger and Timonen on the PP.

Tyutin + 4th for Carle?

How is Tyutin on the PK?


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I'd sell my mother to get rid of Mike Commodore, so of course I'd take that.
*headdesk*

So, basically, you're willing to take yet another top-6 tweener center who's massively overpaid, another minor-league center's RFA rights, and yet another top-4 tweener defenseman's RFA rights in return for our best prospect, our best character forward/clutch scorer/playoff performer and locker room leader, and the chance to fulfill a vindictive personal agenda?

G-d forbid you ever run this team.


Don't get me wrong; I like Coburn. But that trade... *shudder*

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*headdesk*

So, basically, you're willing to take yet another top-6 tweener center who's massively overpaid, another minor-league center's RFA rights, and yet another top-4 tweener defenseman's RFA rights in return for our best prospect, our best character forward/clutch scorer/playoff performer and locker room leader, and the chance to fulfill a vindictive personal agenda?

G-d forbid you ever run this team.


Don't get me wrong; I like Coburn. But that trade... *shudder*
honestly dont see it. colombus gets the best player in briere and this the rare circumstance where he isnt the most overpaid player in the deal with commodore coming the other way.

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Tyutin for Carle does nothing to help solidify the CBJ blueline. Tyutin is bigger, tougher, faster, and to top it off, he's cheaper. If CBJ can't afford to acquire a true 25 min d-man, Tyutin does a better job than Carle, temporarily filling that role, until one is developed internally.

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Tyutin for Carle does nothing to help solidify the CBJ blueline. Tyutin is bigger, tougher, faster, and to top it off, he's cheaper. If CBJ can't afford to acquire a true 25 min d-man, Tyutin does a better job than Carle, temporarily filling that role, until one is developed internally.
This. Seriously I can't believe people would consider Tyutin for Carle a good deal.

Plus, the point of adding Carle would be to strengthen the existing blueline, yes? You'd end up having to replace Tyutin then.

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This. Seriously I can't believe people would consider Tyutin for Carle a good deal.

Plus, the point of adding Carle would be to strengthen the existing blueline, yes? You'd end up having to replace Tyutin then.
i could see the rationale from our end as its the same reason i offered coburn in the other proposal. i see tyutin and coburn complimenting each other very well. i wouldnt do it for much the same reasons (cant really replace carles offense)

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What about without Filatov?

And I wouldn't mind Tyutin, since he is more of a 2 way D, Carle's offense is pretty wasted here behind Pronger and Timonen on the PP.

Tyutin + 4th for Carle?

How is Tyutin on the PK?
Late to the party but I'll add my $0.02 anyway....


Tyutin has had an inconsistent (at this point considered below par) year but he is a top 4 d-man on most teams. Moving him for Carle doesn't make sense for Columbus. Carle is A) not an upgrade, B) more expensive and C) not well rounded.

Tyutin plays on the top PP unit, the top PK unit (or at least the 2nd PK unit) and logs heavy minutes 5 v 5. He's a very solid all around d-man but, as mentioned, had a rough year in Columbus.

If Tyutin goes anywhere it's part of a package for an upgrade.

Not bashing just trying to say that Tyutin for Carle doesn't work and to have the CBJ add a 4th is crazy.

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