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04-07-2010, 09:33 AM
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It is indeed rather frustrating that no impact players were picked - at all. That said it should probably be mentioned that the Isles did not have any picks higher than #15 during the period. From that point on teams should, on average, probably be content to simply churn out solid NHL contributors.
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Well,the more recent drafts have already seen nearly as many NHL players.

Okposo, Tavares, Bailey, MacDonald. Okposo and Tavares have already contributed more than anyone in those drafts.

That said, the problem with the 2001-5 drafts was horrible use of early round picks. There were some good selections later on, Gervais, Campoli, Comeau, Nielsen are all solid value based on where they were picked. The problem is that none of Bergenheim, Nokelainen, Nielsen, O'Marra panned out. When you whiff on four straight first rounders (especially in the great 2003 draft) it is a big problem.
good points!

to add. Drafting isn't quite as critical in terms of getting the absolute best player in the draft or the best player based on all the available ones at any single point in time. It's almost pointless to evaluate the draft in isolation of the team.

The team plays a huge role in player development and opportunity as well.

Look at two HF and NHL favorite "model" franchises. Here are the players they added through the draft from 2000-2005:

JERSEY
2000 - Paul Martin #57
2002- Cam Janssen #117
2003 Parise #17 (ouch again)
2004 Zajac #20
2005 Bergfors #23 (traded for a Kovy cup run)
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WINGS
2000 - N Kronwall #29
2000- Kopecy#38
2001 - ZERO
2002 - Hudler#58, Fleischmann#63, Filppula#95
2003 - Jimmy Howard #64
2004 - Franzen #97
2005- Helm #132
2006-ZERO

Jersey always had good teams and added only three significant players over that time - key being significant. It's not the NUMBER of players inasmuch as the TYPE of players and how they fit with your actual NHL roster, augmented (as RDC put it in another thread) by "any means possible".

These are players that will define the team for the next decade - so you don't have to "win the draft" every year.

Having players like Zajac and Parise on a team with a solid supporting cast of Rolston, Elias, Langenbrunner etc allows NJ the LUXURY of dealing a guy like Bergfors to maybe win a cup. The luxury of allowing a guy like Martin (maybe) (and Niedermayer/Rafalski before him) to become a UFA and the team just keeps on rolling.

They are not DEPENDENT on a very high first rounder to absolve management of any responsibility in putting a competitive team on the ice.

To me, this is like coasting through school and relying on your rich parents to "hook you up with a sweet ride and a slick job" once you've graduated. Sad. very sad.

Detroit's drafting and player development is legendary. They have quality AND quantity in their organization. They can afford to lose franzen to injury, Hudler to europe, Kopecy and others and keep rolling along nicely. They trickle in a Bertuzzi, Cleary, J Williams, add Rafalski to the core Datsyuk/Zetts, Draper/Maltby - and the beat goes on.

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04-07-2010, 11:39 AM
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Interesting:
In our drafts from 2001-2005, we took a total of 41 players. These drafts have resulted in a grand total of 7 NHLers, 8 if you include Dustin Kohn. Of these 8, 4 are currently with with Islanders. The player having scored the most in his career to date?

Robert Nilsson, but not by much.

Not one of these 8 players is considered a top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman for a playoff-caliber team.
This is a big reason why the team sucked from 2007-2010. Also further indictment of how bad Milbury really was.

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