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04-11-2010, 05:19 PM
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so let me get this straight...youd give up an 8 million dollar offersheet, and 4 first rounders up...instead of signing Kovalchuk, who is a better player?

Really?


Backstrom is a damn good player...but everyone on that team has absurdly inflated numbers due to the talent they have.
You're forgetting how much more important a center is

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04-11-2010, 05:19 PM
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They need to send Redden to Hartford free up his salary. Sign a free agent defensemen (Volchenkov, Michalek, Martin, Seidenberg or Hamhuis.) And they need to add another goal scorer/playmaker either to play with Gaborik & Dubinsky line or to play on the 2nd line and create a 2nd scoring line.

Assuming rookies like Del Zotto and Anisimov get better next year if they can add those two pieces with there goaltending they can definately be a much improved team. Comparable team would be the Sabres with Miller that is kind of how the rangers need to build there team next year.

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04-11-2010, 05:21 PM
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Backstorm over Kovalchuk?
realistically you could make arguments both ways... however the edge probably goes to kovi simply bc he is a ufa

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04-11-2010, 05:22 PM
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All in favor of bringing Zherdev back?

Not that he would have been a game breaker tonight, but he's still very close to a 30 goal scorer. On the second line would have been awesome this year. As a matter of fact he would have been worth at LEAST a few more wins so we would have likely been able to make the playoffs this year.

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Well least were getting a Top 15 pick for once.

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04-11-2010, 05:22 PM
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Kovalchuk is so overrated. Atlanta was the same team without him and the Devils were a good team before Ilya. He has made no difference to that team either. If ten years of Sather at the helm hasn't destroyed this franchise,10 year deal for Kovalchuk will be the final death nail in the organization.

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04-11-2010, 05:23 PM
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Anybody know when the press conference to introduce Messier as GM and MacTavish as coach is?

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04-11-2010, 05:23 PM
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Do and Donts for next season.

Listen carefully because i am usually spot on on these.

Do's
-Keep prust and Shelly

-Find a way to lose Redden and his contract and replace with number 1 center
Search for a number 1 center if it is possible
Search for a physical defensive d man

-Try to sign Kovalchuk but only if we let Drury go. I was so happy with the way he stepped it up down the stretch but in honesty it was all of guts, and he is just not worth the money so if we can rid of him and Redden and make room for a true number 1 center and possibly Kovalchuk we would be looking better already.

-Try and keep Anreas Erikson, he has played really well.

-Start a more youth movement, Grahev, Mcdonaugh etc, give them a chance.

Dont's

Do not re-sign Jokinen no matter what (not jus because he pussied out on his shot)

Do not re-sign Christ also not because he missed on his shot but because he has not come up big in games that matter and he is useless to this team if he cannot step it up in tight situations and pick up Gaborik game. This is the key because we have Goborik, that last thing we need is Christ who seems to play similar to Gaborik and his off and on moments. I know it hard to find but we need a soild number 1 center. Anisimov is gettting better, but seems to be fit for a second to 4th line role as does Dubinsky.

-Do not re-sign Girardi unless you get a hell of a bargain paying him over 2-3 million would be wrong. He could be replaced by either a young D man in are system or a better valued guy like Volchenkov if he is available.

-I got heat from this one last time, but although he played some good hockey on the second line, he is still a defensive liability, when turining puck over in offensive zone, and is only going to get older. I say do not sign him and brign up a guy like Grachev to replace him. Grachev will be more than old enough to have a fair shot next year.

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04-11-2010, 05:24 PM
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You're forgetting how much more important a center is
*kills self*

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04-11-2010, 05:26 PM
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Kovalchuk is so overrated. Atlanta was the same team without him and the Devils were a good team before Ilya. He has made no difference to that team either. If ten years of Sather at the helm hasn't destroyed this franchise,10 year deal for Kovalchuk will be the final death nail in the organization.
Alright then u can continue with 3rd-4th liners playing the top 2 lines..

Kovalchuk is a guy u pencil in for 45-50 goals..lord knows this teams need scoring talent

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04-11-2010, 05:27 PM
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The last dont a meant was Prospal.

I also want to add i would not keep Torts and also finally fire Sather and if Mess is the only viable option put him in. Auld is a good back-up and should get more games to show that if we re-sign him. A possible coaching canditate i would say is Mac T, the old coach of EDM.

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04-11-2010, 05:28 PM
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You're forgetting how much more important a center is
I guess you forgot that when a center scores it counts as 2 goals

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04-11-2010, 05:32 PM
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First piece: Hope Sather gets fired.

Second piece: Hope his replacement has enough sense to realize this team can't be fixed in one summer.

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04-11-2010, 05:35 PM
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I guess you forgot that when a center scores it counts as 2 goals
that's great stuff

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04-11-2010, 05:35 PM
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1) Sign Staal 3.5 cap hit
2) Sign Volchenkov 4.5 cap hit
3) Bury Redden in hartford
4) let jokinen walk
5)voros hartford
6) sign girardi 4 yr- 10 mill.
7) Trade gilroy
8) I don't want this to happen but I could see us trading for hossa
9)Bring prospal, prust, shelley back
10) if we have the space take a run at brad richards

I'm probably forgetting some stuff but basically in a nutshell give hank some god damn help. Volchenkov is Priority number 1 this summer. and stay away from kovalchuk

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04-11-2010, 05:36 PM
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No need to even put fire sather, it's just assumed everyones thinking that

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04-11-2010, 05:36 PM
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Alright then u can continue with 3rd-4th liners playing the top 2 lines..

Kovalchuk is a guy u pencil in for 45-50 goals..lord knows this teams need scoring talent
Fine you give him a 10 year contract worth nearly $100 million for a hockey player not named Crosby

Other players don't score goals and most importantly WIN?


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04-11-2010, 05:42 PM
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Priorites
  • Resign Staal.
  • Bury Redden.
  • Let Jokinen and Parenteau walk.
  • Sign Volchenkov.
  • Sign Frolov.
  • Trade for a #1 center.
  • Resign Prust and Shelley.

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04-11-2010, 05:45 PM
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Kovalchuk is so overrated. Atlanta was the same team without him and the Devils were a good team before Ilya. He has made no difference to that team either. If ten years of Sather at the helm hasn't destroyed this franchise,10 year deal for Kovalchuk will be the final death nail in the organization.
It's called marginals.

It's the Yankees thing all over again. When you are already elite, adding another elite player will only make you marginally better.

When you are mediocre, adding an elite player will make you substantially better because that's how much room you have to improve.

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04-11-2010, 05:46 PM
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defensive conundrum

Not sure what will happen on O over the off-season. More interesting is the logjam at Defense.

Currently,

Del Zotto
Gilroy
Girardi
Redden
Roszival
Staal

Have to assume that Sanguinetti gets a spot - if he's going to make it in the nhl the push should start next season.

From watching a few of the Wisco games recently, appears as if Mcdonaugh is potentially nhl ready.

Then there's Sauer in the mix, of course health-dependant.

Curious to see how this all plays out.

Personally, I think redden is on the team again next year. Staal and Del Zotto are guaranteed. I think Rozi and either Girardi or Gilroy will be gone.

I don't see room for volchenkov - especially since he'll require a significant deal in terms of years and block our younger guys. Gilroy could be a good piece on draft day to move up; rozi same deal.

I see

Staal Del Zotto
Girardi Redden
Sanguinetti Mcdonaugh

Clears up some good cap space, continues the rebuild, by middle of Gabby's contract the d-core will be solid and locked down, can then worry about making adjustments on O.

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04-11-2010, 05:46 PM
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It's called marginals.

It's the Yankees thing all over again. When you are already elite, adding another elite player will only make you marginally better.

When you are mediocre, adding an elite player will make you substantially better because that's how much room you have to improve.
The Rangers were mediocre, added an elite player in Gaborik, and are still mediocre.

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04-11-2010, 05:48 PM
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It's called marginals.

It's the Yankees thing all over again. When you are already elite, adding another elite player will only make you marginally better.

When you are mediocre, adding an elite player will make you substantially better because that's how much room you have to improve.
yes we need scoring but first and foremost we need to get hank help. we can add kovalchuk but that won't take us any farther if we still have zero help for hank on the blueline. first and foremost we need defense

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04-11-2010, 05:51 PM
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The Rangers were mediocre, added an elite player in Gaborik, and are still mediocre.
That's cause u need 2 elite scoring wingers. Red Wings, Pens, Flyers, Devils, etc. All have them

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04-11-2010, 05:52 PM
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That's pretty much all you need to do.

Let Jokinen walk, find a way to get rid of Redden.

Trade Rozsival if you can get something decent back.

Don't re-sign Girardi.

Sign Volchenkov.
1. At least see how much Jokinen wants. If you can get him for 2 years at say 2M Per, then do it. Anything more and I'll Pass.

2. I think we're stuck with Redden unless Sather has another trick up his sleeve. No way do the Rangers send Redden to Hartford. Not happening in my opinion.

3. DO NOT MOVE Rozsival. One of our better defenders all year.

4. You have to re-sign Girardi, if he asks for something crazy, gotta let him go. But re-up him 2 years.

5. I'll pass on Volchenkov.

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04-11-2010, 05:55 PM
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That's cause u need 2 elite scoring wingers. Red Wings, Pens, Flyers, Devils, etc. All have them
you really need 2 to 3 elite players to build a foundation on a team.

This team feels Gaborik, Redden, Drury could be those guys.



But our goaltender has kept us around

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