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04-15-2010, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fuhr View Post
I've watched out team be bullied year after year, with questionable hits and opponents crossing the line.
Like I've said many times, i'm all for playing on the edge, playing a chippy game and finishing every check. I am a huge Neil, Ruutu, and Sutton fan. But intetionnally trying to severly injure a player is another thing.

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That was the defining moment of the series, the Ducks took our will to win away after that hit.
I don't think so. It was a big moment, but it did not take away the will to play. Fisher, Alfie, Neil etc. many of players were going out there and playing very hard. What really did us in was Spezza-Heatley being shut down.

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Kunitz targeted our best player. If he took Spezza out a got a 5-10 game suspension and the Pens went on to win the series there is not one Pens fan, there is not one Pens player that takes issue with what Kunitz did.

I don't hear crying and complaining from Ducks fans about what Pronger did, this is the same thing.

You play to win the game.
Where do you draw the line then Fuhr?

Should we just call up a guy like Yabo, throw him out and have him do this to Crosby,

Then, when Malkin comes in to Crosby's defense have him to this :

Then when everyone on the ice is running away from the psycho, have him chase down Gonchar and do this:

Bam! Guaranteed series win, right there. Rinse, repeat, 3 more times. Cup.

Fortunately, that's not a legitimate way to win, and that is not how most guys play the game.

Are you honestly condoning the sens dropping elbows on opponents like Pronger did on McAmmond?

I'm clearly exagerating quite a bit to make a point, but still, where is the line? How far is it ok to go to win?

Kunitz's attempt may not have been as bad as those, but there could have been similar results on the victim's health had he connected with Spezza's head.

Should we go less extreme and hire this guy as team "nutrition" specialist?

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04-15-2010, 02:22 PM
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My line would be Bertuzzi, Simon and Suter stuff. As long as the plays not dead and your not going baseball swinging what you do is fine.

2 minute penalty for hurting the opponent is fine
5 minute major if we went after the opponents best player is fine
Doing something to the opponents best player that warrants a 1-10 game suspension is fine

I can live with that, Kunitz in this case looked at the risk/reward, injured Spezza improves Pens chances to win and worth the penalty for his actions.

Are you honestly condoning the sens dropping elbows on opponents like Pronger did on McAmmond?
Yes, I don't care about the Sens being viewed as classy, nice guys finish last. If dropping a few elbows increases the Sens chances at winning, that is all the matters.

You play to win

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04-15-2010, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fuhr View Post
You play to win

I'm sorry.. I had to .

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04-15-2010, 02:36 PM
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The Sens played almost a perfect road game. Patient, in control and confident all night long. Sure there were some slip ups and yes, Malkin had those two goals and Crosby those three assists but it was on the PP so if the Sens can get disciplined and continue to their solid 5 on 5 play than things are looking good. It's right in context with what Clouston said, you're not going to completely shut down Crosby or Malkin but the goal is to limit the damage.

Hard to say what the Sens can expect from Fleury next game. You know he's going to rebound and get his head in the zone for Game 2 and than coming on the road but he's in a fragile state right now. He's had an average year, and fatigue seems to be catching up to him. He seems alot more like the goalie who was out of his element in the 07 playoffs rather than the money goalie from the last two playoffs. Granted, it was only one game but you gotta think Ottawa smells blood when it comes to MAF.

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