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02-16-2005, 09:44 PM
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Let's talk prospects

Pick one Kings prospect for each (or some, if you prefer) of the following categories and explain why you picked him:

Forward with highest upside
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)
Defenseman with highest upside
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"
Most overrated prospect
Most underrated prospect

I'll chime in after a few people get this started.

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Forward with highest upside=Dustin Brown since Frolov is in LA.

Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons=Peter Kanko

Defenseman with highest upside=Denis Grebeshkov

Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons=Mikhael Lyubushin

Goalie with highest upside=Ryan Munce

Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons=Ryan Munce/Zaba

Best Kings draft pick=Brown/Frolov 2005 Draft G-Ilya Proskuryakov (I hope)

Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"=David Steckel

Most overrated prospect=Andrei Shefer

Most underrated prospect=Ned Lukacevic/Yutaka Fukufuji

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Pick one Kings prospect for each (or some, if you prefer) of the following categories and explain why you picked him:

Forward with highest upside
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)
Defenseman with highest upside
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"
Most overrated prospect
Most underrated prospect

I'll chime in after a few people get this started.
Forward with highest upside: Dustin Brown
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons: Cammeleri
Defenseman with highest upside: Gleason
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons: Baier
Goalie with highest upside: Hauser
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons Hauser
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust:" Jens Karlsson
Most overrated prospect: Yannick Lehoux
Most underrated prospect: Lauri Tukonen

I tried.

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Forward with highest upside: Pushkaryev
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown): Kanko
Defenseman with highest upside: Baier
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason): Petiot
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon): Munce
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon): Hauser
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here): Pushkaryev or Guerin
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust": Lehoux
Most overrated prospect: Kanko
Most underrated prospect: Petiot

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02-16-2005, 10:28 PM
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Pick one Kings prospect for each (or some, if you prefer) of the following categories and explain why you picked him:

Forward with highest upside
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)
Defenseman with highest upside
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"
Most overrated prospect
Most underrated prospect

I'll chime in after a few people get this started.
First of all, good thread, secondly let me answer your questions

Forward hightest up (excluding frolov) Brown
Forward to play 10 nhl seasons Lauri Tukonen
Defensemen with highest up Grebs
Goalie not sure
Goalie most likely to play ten years not sure
Player most likely to overcome a projection of "bust" Rullier-Karlsson-(Steckal's dead and buried all ready)
Most overrated prospect um..not sure
most underrated prospect Lauri T (I think I'm he's only fan) Boyle- he's gonna make it

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Using the guys I've actually seen play...

Forward with highest upside - Cammalleri
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown) - Lehoux
Defenseman with highest upside - Gleason
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason) -Who's left?
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon) - Hauser
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon) - Hauser
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here) - Clarke
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust" - Parros
Most overrated prospect - Grebs (way too inconsistant at this point)
Most underrated prospect - Welch

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02-16-2005, 10:31 PM
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Using the guys I've actually seen play...

Forward with highest upside - Cammalleri
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown) - Lehoux
Defenseman with highest upside - Gleason
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason) -Who's left?
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon) - Hauser
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon) - Hauser
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here) - Clarke
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust" - Parros
Most overrated prospect - Grebs (way too inconsistant at this point)
Most underrated prospect - Welch
Hey,if you could for me, why doesn't Joe R. get an respect....is he bad or just not their yet...thank you marty

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02-16-2005, 10:34 PM
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Forward with highest upside- Brian Boyle. He could me a monster, but conversely he could be a slop
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)-Tambellini
Defenseman with highest upside- Baier
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)-Petiot
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)- Fukufuji
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)-Taylor
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)- Clarke
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"- Karlsson
Most overrated prospect- Grebeshkov.
Most underrated prospect-Petiot

 
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Forward with highest upside- Brian Boyle. He could me a monster, but conversely he could be a slop
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)-Tambellini
Defenseman with highest upside- Baier
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)-Petiot
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)- Fukufuji
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)-Taylor
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)- Clarke
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"- Karlsson
Most overrated prospect- Grebeshkov.
Most underrated prospect-Petiot

Sounds good John...I like Petiot-tambellini-Baier- info about them is tough to get though

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02-16-2005, 10:41 PM
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Sounds good John...I like Petiot-tambellini-Baier- info about them is tough to get though
This is a great site for Stats

http://www.uscho.com/

 
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02-16-2005, 10:46 PM
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Hey,if you could for me, why doesn't Joe R. get an respect....is he bad or just not their yet...thank you marty
Joe gets plenty of respect from me. The guy could kick my @$$....

I didn't include him because I don't think he's considered a prospect any longer. Rullier could become the "stay at home punish the crap out of opponents in front of the net" d-man the Kings need. I had pretty much written him off two years ago, last year was slightly better but still nothing amazing. This season, GAME ON for Joe! He did an interview a while back and said he knows now that his not going to the NHL yet was a good thing for him and he realizes he wasn't ready. Boudreau is very high on Rullier. He could turn out to be the 10-yr NHL d-man IF they played this season...


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Joe gets plenty of respect from me. The guy could kick my @$$....

I didn't include him because I don't think he's considered a prospect any longer. Rullier could become the "stay at home punish the crap out of opponents in front of the net" d-man the Kings need. I had pretty much written him off two years ago, last year was slightly better but still nothing amazing. This season, GAME ON for Joe! He did an interview a while back and said he knows now that his not going to the NHL yet was a good thing for him and he realizes he wasn't ready. Boudreau is very high on Rullier. He could turn ou tto be the 10-yr NHL d-man...
Just my opinion, Joe like others seem not to receive any feed back for discussion. I don't know if time has passed him by and he's and ahl d-man or should I continue to hold my breathe and wait to see what happens.Again we keep signing guys that just go out their and skate and pass and play d. You will eventually get pushed around like the Ducks do. I don't want that to happen. I'm hoping Peitot-Rullier-can help out a bit

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Just my opinion, Joe like others seem not to receive any feed back for discussion. I don't know if time has passed him by and he's and ahl d-man or should I continue to hold my breathe and wait to see what happens.Again we keep signing guys that just go out their and skate and pass and play d. You will eventually get pushed around like the Ducks do. I don't want that to happen. I'm hoping Peitot-Rullier-can help out a bit
Rullier just turned 25 and this year he would have likely seen some time in LA after Miller went out on injury as usual. When the NHL gets their act together I believe that Rullier will get his shot. I'm not ready to label Rullier as an AHL d-man yet. It's looking more and more like Joe's previous partner, Richard Seeley, was the weak link in that pairing...

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Rullier just turned 25 and this year he would have likely seen some time in LA after Miller went out on injury as usual. When the NHL gets their act together I believe that Rullier will get his shot. I'm not ready to label Rullier as an AHL d-man yet. It's looking more and more like Joe's previous partner, Richard Seeley, was the weak link in that pairing...
Thanks for the insight.....something like that I wouldn't know, because of course I live in Yorba Linda, Ca and not New Hampshire.....I can only read your guys posts.. thanks again though!!.........GO JOE

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OK, here are mine:

Forward with highest upside: Boyle. Could be a dominant center.

Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown): Cammalleri. Performance at Manchester this year suggests he definitely is an NHL player.

Defenseman with highest upside: Gleason. Already has shown defensive and physical ability, and I think there is potential offensive ability too.

Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason): Petiot. Should be a solid defensive D-man.

Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon): Munce. To be honest, though, I have not seen these guys play enough to have a strong opinion.

Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon): Munce.

Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here): Pushkarev. Taken relatively high, but I think he was our best pick that year and a steal.

Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust": Lehoux, but probably not for us. I think we trade him to Montreal or somewhere like that.

Most overrated prospect: Kanko. I like him, but he still has a lot to prove.

Most underrated prospect: Boyle. Give him time!

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Forward with highest upside- Brown
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)- Pushkarev.
Defenseman with highest upside- Gleason. I'm thinking he's the next Scott Stevens.
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)-Baier.
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)-Brust
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)-Hauser
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)-Clarke
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"-Steckel. I honestly think he'll turn it around.
Most overrated prospect- Cammalleri.
Most underrated prospect- Karlsson.


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Forward with highest upside=Dustin Brown since Frolov is in LA.

Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons=Peter Kanko

Defenseman with highest upside=Denis Grebeshkov

Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons=Mikhael Lyubushin

Goalie with highest upside=Ryan Munce

Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons=Ryan Munce/Zaba

Best Kings draft pick=Brown/Frolov 2005 Draft G-Ilya Proskuryakov (I hope)

Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"=David Steckel

Most overrated prospect=Andrei Shefer

Most underrated prospect=Ned Lukacevic/Yutaka Fukufuji
Lyubushin? Shefer as most overrated? I haven't even heard about him in years!

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We've had two homeruns. Luc and Frolov. Taylor was just a triple.
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Forward with highest upside - Boyle... As said before, he could be a dominant center

Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons - Tukonen... He has a scoring touch, but the fact he's willing to play physical would make him a managable third liner, as well.

Defenseman with highest upside - Grebeshkov... He has the upside to be a Redden/Zubov type player.

Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons - Petiot... Stay-at-home defensemen don't get enough props for longevity.

Goalie with highest upside - Brust... If he improved his athleticism to go along with his size, he'd be a beast.

Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons - Hauser... He's got the endurance to handle a long season, so he could be a great back-up if he was never a starter.

Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here) - Robitaille ... Prospect wise, Noah Clarke. Ninth round pick who has a good chance of joining the Kings when the season resumes. That's considering draft position.

Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust" - Yanick Lehoux.

Most overrated prospect - Hogeboom. Before the injury, he just wasn't being a strong two-way player...

Most underrated prospect - Ned Lukacevic. Before his rut, he was producing at nearly a point per game pace. Yet... he's rarely, if ever, talked about.

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Forward with highest upside: Konstantin Pushkarev
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons: Scott Parse
Defenseman with highest upside: Tim Gleason
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons: Tim Gleason
Goalie with highest upside: Ryan Munce
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons: Adam Hauser
Best Kings draft pick: Scott Parse/Marty Guerin
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust": Dave Steckel/Brian Boyle
Most overrated prospect: no idea...and I'm a homer you know...
Most underrated prospect: Marty Guerin/Scott Parse/Richard Petiot

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Forward with highest upside--Cammalleri
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Brown)--after seeing him THIS season before he got hurt.-- Lehoux
Defenseman with highest upside--Gleason
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Grebs and Gleason)--Rullier
Goalie with highest upside (exclude Garon)--Hauser (has at times been better then Garon)
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons (exclude Garon)--Hauser
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here)--Noah Clarke
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust"--Kanko (part of me wants to say Steckel thou, just because how far this kid has come in less then a season)
Most overrated prospect-Grebs (until he proves me otherwise)
Most underrated prospect--Dan Welch-(playing pretty damn well for an 8th round pick)

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Forward with highest upside = Pushkarev
Forward most likely to play 10 NHL seasons = Tamber
Defenseman with highest upside = Gleason
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons = Petiot
Goalie with highest upside = Hauser
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons = Munce/Hauser/Zaba
Best Kings draft pick (consider draft position here) = Grebs
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust" = Karlsson
Most overrated prospect = Brady Murray
Most underrated prospect = Ned Lukacevic/Tukonen


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Forward with highest upside - Camms
Forward most likelly to play 10 NHL seasons - Tukonen
Defenseman with highest upside - Grebs
Defenseman most likely to play 10 NHL seasons - Petiot
Golie with highest upside - Hauser (Right now doing better then Garon....)
Goalie most likely to play 10 NHL seasons - Lehtinen... (wish we had him) no umm Hauser
Best Kings draft pick - Tukonen
Player most likely to overcome projection of "bust" - Steckel
Most overrated prospect - Grebs (I really havent seen him do anything to good and he SUCKED at all star game)
Most underrated prospect - Boyle (He will rule in a few years)

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Lyubushin? Shefer as most overrated? I haven't even heard about him in years!

I like some of what iv heard about him. As for Shefer, there are some that still talk about him and wonder what and how hes doing. That alone is to much hype for what hes given us for a second rounder. Hell ad Pavel Rosa on while your at it.

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