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04-19-2010, 05:37 PM
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Thanks for looking out for us Predators fans. I personally could care less if they trap or send five men in on the forecheck, as long as they win. I think the whole "trap" discussion is a bit played out. Almost every team employs some form of trap. The topic always seems to come up when a good defenisve team (regardless of the system they play) has some success against a high powered offensive team. All systems can be beaten. Don't like the system, then exploit it and force the opposition to change. I am not directing this to you; but I wonder how many people that complain about the trap could even draw it up and explain it?
Not many at all.

The Predators do not use a neutral zone trap or left wing lock....

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04-19-2010, 06:10 PM
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2 deep on the forecheck is an aggressive make you turn the puck over forecheck. not a trap.

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I'll give you the second one they scored but to rip these guys for giving up a power play goal is unfair. Was it their fault Tootoo took a penalty 200 feet from their own goal? They have been a PK duo all season and as of late, the PK has been pretty good as a team. I believe at one point we gave up 5 goals on 45 chances recently so their play hasn't been as bad as it was earlier in the season. Chicago has a pretty good PP last time I checked and at some point, they're gonna put the puck in the net with a man advantage. To blame two guys when it's a team game is a bit much.

As far as the second goal goes, Klein was back covering the passing lane on a 2 on 1, what more could he have done? Legwand makes a weak pass back to Hamhuis on the point and Hamhuis decides to pinch without getting the puck or Kane. So while blaming the combination of those two is easy, Klein really had nothing to do with the bad play made by Hamhuis and Legwand.
Well first I didn't directly blame either goal on Hamhuis/Klein. Second, I said it was different situations for both goals but they were out there together. I was just saying that on both goals, Hamhuis/Klein happen to be on the ice together. When they're apart, they're fine. But together, something bad/wierd happens. Yes I know, not all the time, and they have been playing better lately, but when those 2 are together something changes. Every d-pair has their bad moments during a game but it's been like that all year long with those two.


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04-20-2010, 11:14 AM
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Not many at all.

The Predators do not use a neutral zone trap or left wing lock....
Seems like any low-scoring team that turns pucks over...or forces pucks to be turned over, rather...in the neutral zone is called a trap team by most people. Just b/c our game can be boring and we can't score doesn't mean we play the trap!

For clarification, though....the trap is: one forward deep forechecking, two forwards on the opposition blue line/in the first half of the neutral zone forechecking, and two D on our own blueline...right? Seems like every team does that at some point in every game.

I have NO clue what a left wing lock is. I need to go read Hockey for Dummies or something, I'd really like to know more about strategies of play, having never played myself.

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04-20-2010, 11:21 AM
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left wing lock is where one winger (usually the left winger) is on the blue line and responsible for a third of the ice. The defense is responsible for the other two-thirds. you still have two forcheckers, just not as agressive. It limits odd man rushes and forces a team to dump and chase. chicago is a good puck possesion team, so the old lock wcould work against them, but you sacrifice a good bit of offence. against a good grinding team, this type of defense isn't that effective becasue they chip and rush. think of it like a 2-3 zone in basketball if you want.

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