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04-21-2010, 11:38 AM
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any particular reason you said the ducks? have they expressed interest in a verteran defenseman?

and i dont see us getting a 2nd and 3rd for him, but i'd take it
Just speculation. They have a pretty horrible defense and Niedermayer may retire/go elsewher eleaving them with Visnovsky and Wisniewski as really the only quality defensemen who can eat up minutes.

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04-21-2010, 11:48 AM
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It's pretty apparent that most of the posters here don't stay up late for Sharks games. Marleau is a heart and soul player. He is hard working, goes into tough places and while he has benefitted from having Thornton with him, he was a pretty good player before Thornton got to San Jose. In the playoffs, Marleau always, always outplays Thornton.

That said, he doesn't belong in New York. He's hitting that magic age when scoring totals typically start to decline. He's not a leader. And he's really not a center although he is listed as one. No matter where he signs, he will be overpaid for the next few years.

Spend the money on 2-3 mid level players to strengthen weak spots, exile Redden and let the young core grow together. 2-3 more rookies next year.
Glad finally some one else has sense on here. "Oh he's Drury part 2!" No, Marleau is one of the fastest players in the league, and has a more well polished finishing ability than Drury. The only thing they have in common, well 2 things, they are solid penalty killers and are lousy leaders.

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04-21-2010, 12:07 PM
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Sometimes I'm really stunned by what my fellow Rangers fans want to do with this team...how are some of you any better than Sather???

Marleau - great in regular season, sucks in playoffs, is not a good leader!

This is all you need to know about this guy:

PLAYOFFS
06-07 - 6 points in 11 games , -5
07-08 - 8 points in 13 games, -2
08-09 - 3 points in 6 games
09-10 - 1 point in 4 games, -2

So while putting up a point per game in the regular season in 3 of those last 4 seasons, his numbers in the playoffs are not even close to that! I would not pay him $2 million, I just dont want him. We need leaders on this team, and guys who can score as well...not just guys who can score but suck in playoffs.

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04-21-2010, 12:07 PM
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I like Marleau, but there is no way he ever scores 40 goals in a Ranger uniform, maybe he would hit 30 & help Gabs get closer to 50.

It's not worth handcuffing ourselves to another huge contract when there are similar cheaper options out there.

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04-21-2010, 01:23 PM
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Let just say, he would score 40 goals every season he played for NYR, but would you accept his no-show playoff performance?

Same for Kovalchuk. Are you willing to sacrifice playoff for good regular season?

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04-21-2010, 01:32 PM
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Let just say, he would score 40 goals every season he played for NYR, but would you accept his no-show playoff performance?

Same for Kovalchuk. Are you willing to sacrifice playoff for good regular season?
Uh, have you checked Kovy's stats in the POs recently...?

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04-21-2010, 01:37 PM
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Spend the money on 2-3 mid level players to strengthen weak spots, exile Redden and let the young core grow together. 2-3 more rookies next year.
Nailed it.

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04-21-2010, 01:38 PM
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I don't think Marleau is the answer in NY. You guys need just a total overhaul it would seem. Get a playmaking center to play with Gaborik. That should be priority number one for Rangers this season.

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04-21-2010, 02:14 PM
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Nailed it.
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04-21-2010, 02:20 PM
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I don't think Marleau is the answer in NY. You guys need just a total overhaul it would seem. Get a playmaking center to play with Gaborik. That should be priority number one for Rangers this season.
Exactly. And since we probably won't get that this season, we should just accept that we are going to be mediocre for at least another year and try to do only small upgrades (like Michalek for Redden) and implement some more rookies, so they get used to the league (Sangs and Weise, maybe Grachev).

We should absolutely not overpay for some UFA that just has to disappoint. We have to finally learn from the past and stop with this crap!

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04-21-2010, 04:35 PM
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Uh, have you checked Kovy's stats in the POs recently...?
Yes, but out of how many playoff games? Not only he doesn't do well in the playoffs, he has bad temperament as well.

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04-21-2010, 04:51 PM
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Yes, but out of how many playoff games? Not only he doesn't do well in the playoffs, he has bad temperament as well.
so where do you get this "he doesnt do well in the playoffs" from? based off one series against us? a sample size of 4 games? Amazing.

yet based on this we'd be "sacrificing playoffs for regular season"

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04-21-2010, 05:11 PM
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if anyone from the sharks i would much rather try and land Pavelski and give up draft picks (he's a RFA). But if Marleau were to come cheap i wouldn't mind him. But he won't. This was his contract year and he played his balls off so that he would land some serious cash in what will probably be his last big contract. So i would stay away unless the deal is under 4 mil per. But like i said, thats not going to happen.

But for those saying that he chokes in the playoffs ... a) half a point per game, which is about what he's getting, is pretty decent for the playoffs considering the competition ... but more importantly b) the entire team chokes in the playoffs ... not just Marleau haha.

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so where do you get this "he doesnt do well in the playoffs" from? based off one series against us? a sample size of 4 games? Amazing.

yet based on this we'd be "sacrificing playoffs for regular season"
He was invisible in the Olympics and thats the pinnacle of pressure for a Russian hockey player.

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04-21-2010, 05:18 PM
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Yes, but out of how many playoff games? Not only he doesn't do well in the playoffs, he has bad temperament as well.
He's 3-5-8 in 8 playoff games for his career - in other words, a point per game.

He was 1-1-2 in 4 games against the Rangers in 06-07. I'm guessing you thought he went scoreless, right? His real issue was that Avery got in his face, he lost it and took a boatload of penalties - which is why people have this enduring "he's not a playoff performer" impression. This year he's 2-4-6 in 4 games so far, which is good for top 5 in scoring in the league (very early on, I grant you) and the Devils' team lead.

Honestly, the NJ series is playing out as well as I could hope. Kovalchuk's proving he can produce in the POs, but they're looking like they'll be out in the first round. So, he won't be negotiating his contract off the back of some magical playoff streak on July 1 and he'll have (one would assume) very little loyalty to the Devils.

[Mr. Burns voice] Excellent...

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04-21-2010, 07:21 PM
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Would rather they spend a fraction of that money on Matthew Lombardi.
just what we need. more 2nd liners. no to Marleau btw.

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