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04-21-2010, 06:34 PM
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i completly agree with the veteran defense man instead of gilroy and i think volchenkov might demand to much maybe we should consider

Paul martin
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maybe sutton ive been watching the playoffs and he adds a physical element which we despertly need
Want and want. Both are extremely underrated. Martin may be the most underrated D-man in NHL.

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I think you're selling Kovalchuk short. He doesn't have the physicality or personality of Ovechkin, but his deking, skating and vision are all superb. He also has never had the supporting cast Ovechkin has in Washington (no, the Devils do not count, they have been a ~.430 team since January... the Devils ship has been sinking since long before Kovalchuk arrived).
His dekeing, speed etc may all be superb, but no where near a guy like Ovechkins(#1 creative player in the game).
Nobody is saying the Devils sinking ship is b/c of Kovalchuk. In fact, I said if there is a situation you want someone like Kovalchuk on your team; it's a situation like the devils w/ so many 2 way guys. It's the appropiate support cast for a guy like Kovy. Detroit would be another good fit.

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His dekeing, speed etc may all be superb, but no where near a guy like Ovechkins(#1 creative player in the game).
Nobody is saying the Devils sinking ship is b/c of Kovalchuk. In fact, I said if there is a situation you want someone like Kovalchuk on your team; it's a situation like the devils w/ so many 2 way guys. It's the appropiate support cast for a guy like Kovy. Detroit would be another good fit.
He's a top 5 forward in the league. It's not #1 like Ovechkin, but it's not bad.

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He's a top 5 forward in the league. It's not #1 like Ovechkin, but it's not bad.
He may be a top 5 winger, but he's def. short of being a top 5 forward in the league, atleast on my list.

Ovechkin
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He may be a top 5 winger, but he's def. short of being a top 5 forward in the league, atleast on my list.

Ovechkin
Crosby
Malkin
Datsyuk
Iginla/Vinny L/Zetterberg/Kane
Over the past 5 years, only 4 players have more points than Kovalchuk.

AO, Crosby, Thornton, Heatley, and Datsyuk.


Heatley had Alfie and Spezza
Datsyuk has Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, etc
AO has Backstrom, Semin, Green, etc
Thornton has Marleau, and Cheechoo before he sucked
Crosby has Malkin, Gonchar, and Staal

Kovalchuk has had Marian Hossa, who played on a different line than him...and nothing else.

Ilya Kovalchuk went an season centered by Steve Rucchin, centered by Bobby Holik, and crap all else. He has inarguably had the least amount of help out of all of these guys...and yet hes right up there with the best of the best.

When you expand the numbers from the past 5 years to the past 8 years, Kovalchuk is:
2nd in points, to Thornton
1st in goals (by 36 goals)
1st in even strength goals
and 1st in power play goals

Kovalchuk is nothing short of one of the top 5 most dominating offensive players in the game. Give him some help, like Gabby, and give him an elite goalie...and surround him with some pretty damn good players in Dubi, Cally, Prospal, Staal, MDZ, etc...and hes going to put up some scary numbers. 50/50 is definitely not out of the question.

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Over the past 5 years, only 4 players have more points than Kovalchuk.

AO, Crosby, Thornton, Heatley, and Datsyuk.


Heatley had Alfie and Spezza
Datsyuk has Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, etc
AO has Backstrom, Semin, Green, etc
Thornton has Marleau, and Cheechoo before he sucked
Crosby has Malkin, Gonchar, and Staal

Kovalchuk has had Marian Hossa, who played on a different line than him...and nothing else.

Ilya Kovalchuk went an season centered by Steve Rucchin, centered by Bobby Holik, and crap all else. He has inarguably had the least amount of help out of all of these guys...and yet hes right up there with the best of the best.

When you expand the numbers from the past 5 years to the past 8 years, Kovalchuk is:
2nd in points, to Thornton
1st in goals (by 36 goals)
1st in even strength goals
and 1st in power play goals

Kovalchuk is nothing short of one of the top 5 most dominating offensive players in the game. Give him some help, like Gabby, and give him an elite goalie...and surround him with some pretty damn good players in Dubi, Cally, Prospal, Staal, MDZ, etc...and hes going to put up some scary numbers. 50/50 is definitely not out of the question.
Yeah. That's if you choose to ignore all the other parts of the game & only look at scoring.

Other players have the other parts of the game & can still rack up numbers close to his, and at times better.

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Over the past 5 years, only 4 players have more points than Kovalchuk.

AO, Crosby, Thornton, Heatley, and Datsyuk. <--- 5
Wait what?

I'm not sure but i think kovalchuk has more points than heatley so that would make it 4.

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Wait what?

I'm not sure but i think kovalchuk has more points than heatley so that would make it 4.
No, Heatley has a couple 100+ points in the last 5 years.

But that doesn't make them one of the best in the league I don't think. Theres more to it. How much a player has accomplished, what other attributes the player has other than his scoring etc.

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Yeah. That's if you choose to ignore all the other parts of the game & only look at scoring.

Other players have the other parts of the game & can still rack up numbers close to his, and at times better.
yes, only talking about offense.

we dont need a defensive specialist.

we dont need a banger

we dont need a grinder.


what we need is scoring, scoring, and more scoring. This is the guy to do it.

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yes, only talking about offense.

we dont need a defensive specialist.

we dont need a banger

we dont need a grinder.


what we need is scoring, scoring, and more scoring. This is the guy to do it.
The money and years locked up in a Kovalchuk would give us balance & depth issues. We'd also have trouble re-signing players within our system whether it's now or in the future.

I rather use that money and address more then just 1 need(Center, D, Scoring winger). This would answer a lot of our depth worries, and would help balance the line-up of this team.

If you just sign Kovy, you're going to force players into positions they shouldn't be in. Like a Christensen on the 1st line, or a Anisimov who's not quite ready to be a go-to center. Maybe even a Drury whose offense has declined would be forced to play a 2nd line role. It would most likely mean another rookie d-men(Sanguinetti) playing along side a sophmore d-men like a Gilroy.

This is a recipee for disaster. It's something a team who doesn't want to make the playoffs would do. With a Lundqvist who's not getting any younger, and has voiced that he expects a good playoff run next season; it's not what you want to do by targeting 1 guy and still being left with depth and balance issues.

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Want and want. Both are extremely underrated. Martin may be the most underrated D-man in NHL.
I'd love to have Martin on this team too, I think I'd rather the Rangers invest in him then Volchenkov off now, if they are looking to add a D-man. Definitly a possibily with the cap possibly going up to $59 million. Martin just turned 29 last month and had a cap hit of $3.383 million. I'm guessing the Rangers would have to pony up 4 years at $5.25 million per year, which I'd be willing to pay, even with the injury last season. He more then likely was going to be a captain for team USA during the Olympics. He provides solid defense along with some offense (averages around 30pts a year).

Let's see how this works out, via capgeek:

- Waive Redden/Voros.
- Trade Gilroy at draft.
- Brashear to LTIR or dealt.
- Re-sign Staal (3yrs @ $3 million).
- Re-sign Girardi (2yrs @ $2.25 million).
- Re-sign Christiansen (2 yrs @ $800K).
- Re-sign Prust (2yrs @ $600K).
- Re-sign Shelley (1yr @ $725K).
- Resign Eriksson (1yr @ $600K).
- One of Sangs/Sauer/McD make the team out of cap ($875K salary).
- MZA gets rookie ELC for his age (2yrs @ $875K) and most bonus' can be deferred, if necessary to next season.
- Sign Kovalchuk (8yrs @ $8 million).
- Sign Martin (4yrs @ $5.25 million).
- Sign Hedberg (2yrs @ $800K).

* Ilya Kovalchuk ($8.000m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m)
Ryan Callahan ($2.300m) / Sean Avery ($1.938m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m)
* Mats Zuccerello-Aasen ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.822m) / * Erik Christensen ($0.800m)
* Jody Shelley ($0.725m) / * Brandon Prust ($0.600m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m)
DEFENSEMEN
* Paul Martin ($5.250m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
* Marc Staal ($3.000m) / * Daniel Girardi ($2.250m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Bobby Sanguinetti ($0.855m)
* Anders Eriksson ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / * Johan Hedberg ($0.800m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER: 21; PAYROLL: $58.702m; CAP ROOM: $0.511m BONUSES: $0.212m

Leaves around $500K in cap room. Don't know if that's the best idea, with just 12 forwards, but 7 D-men. And possible lines of:

Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Kovalchuk - Anisimov/Drury - MZA/Callahan
Avery - Drury/Anisimov - Callahan/MZA
Prust - Boyle - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
Martin - MZA
Sangs/Sauer/McD - Girardi

Lundqvist
Hedberg

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I'd love to have Martin on this team too, I think I'd rather the Rangers invest in him then Volchenkov off now, if they are looking to add a D-man. Definitly a possibily with the cap possibly going up to $59 million. Martin just turned 29 last month and had a cap hit of $3.383 million. I'm guessing the Rangers would have to pony up 4 years at $5.25 million per year, which I'd be willing to pay, even with the injury last season. He more then likely was going to be a captain for team USA during the Olympics. He provides solid defense along with some offense (averages around 30pts a year).

Let's see how this works out, via capgeek:

- Waive Redden/Voros.
- Trade Gilroy at draft.
- Brashear to LTIR or dealt.
- Re-sign Staal (3yrs @ $3 million).
- Re-sign Girardi (2yrs @ $2.25 million).
- Re-sign Christiansen (2 yrs @ $800K).
- Re-sign Prust (2yrs @ $600K).
- Re-sign Shelley (1yr @ $725K).
- Resign Eriksson (1yr @ $600K).
- One of Sangs/Sauer/McD make the team out of cap ($875K salary).
- MZA gets rookie ELC for his age (2yrs @ $875K) and most bonus' can be deferred, if necessary to next season.
- Sign Kovalchuk (8yrs @ $8 million).
- Sign Martin (4yrs @ $5.25 million).
- Sign Hedberg (2yrs @ $800K).

* Ilya Kovalchuk ($8.000m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m)
Ryan Callahan ($2.300m) / Sean Avery ($1.938m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m)
* Mats Zuccerello-Aasen ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov($0.822m) / * Erik Christensen ($0.800m)
* Jody Shelley ($0.725m) / * Brandon Prust ($0.600m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m)
DEFENSEMEN
* Paul Martin ($5.250m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
* Marc Staal ($3.000m) / * Daniel Girardi ($2.250m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Bobby Sanguinetti ($0.855m)
* Anders Eriksson ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / * Johan Hedberg ($0.800m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER: 21; PAYROLL: $58.702m; CAP ROOM: $0.511m BONUSES: $0.212m

Leaves around $500K in cap room. Don't know if that's the best idea, with just 12 forwards, but 7 D-men. And possible lines of:

Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Kovalchuk - Anisimov/Drury - MZA/Callahan
Avery - Drury/Anisimov - Callahan/MZA
Prust - Boyle - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
Martin - MZA
Sangs/Sauer/McD - Girardi

Lundqvist
Hedberg
Kovalchuk already refused a 10+ million dollar contract. Why would he take 8?

Brashear is not going to get traded and I doubt LTIR. We'll probably have to eat that.

I think your Prust and EC numbers are probably too low.

I really don't want IK. What little cap space we'll ever have is completely gone for years with him here.

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Kovalchuk already refused a 10+ million dollar contract. Why would he take 8?

Brashear is not going to get traded and I doubt LTIR. We'll probably have to eat that.

I think your Prust and EC numbers are probably too low.

I really don't want IK. What little cap space we'll ever have is completely gone for years with him here.
Because he wanted out of Atlanta. That team is going no where fast. We won't know exactly what the market might bear for him, but if the playoffs are any indicator, his value has decreased a bit.

If Brashear shows up to camp just a little bit out of shape, he will be put on LTIR, just like the Devils did with Moginly.

Prust and Christiansen won't get much more then their qualifying offers, which is something like 5% increase over their current salary. They have no bargining chips as RFA's. Sather likes to play hardball with RFA's. I don't see this being anything difference. They may get a couple hundred thousand more then I listed, but I doubt Christiansen touches $1 million.

Yes, if Kovy is signed to a deal similar to what I listed, it will eat up cap space, but there will not be a player like him on the market for several years and there really isn't anyone in the Rangers system right now that comes close to the talent that he has. Not to mention Drury and Roszival are off the books in 2 seasons ($12 million in cap savings) and the salary cap should keep going up a bit every season due to the recovery of the economy and the very strong Canadian Dollar.

My scenario might put the Rangers too close to the upper cap ceiling, as I stated in my post, but it addresses offensive needs as well as defensive needs. And will it happen, 99% chance that it won't, just a little something to pass the time until at least the draft lol. Two more months to go!

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The money and years locked up in a Kovalchuk would give us balance & depth issues. We'd also have trouble re-signing players within our system whether it's now or in the future.

I rather use that money and address more then just 1 need(Center, D, Scoring winger). This would answer a lot of our depth worries, and would help balance the line-up of this team.

If you just sign Kovy, you're going to force players into positions they shouldn't be in. Like a Christensen on the 1st line, or a Anisimov who's not quite ready to be a go-to center. Maybe even a Drury whose offense has declined would be forced to play a 2nd line role. It would most likely mean another rookie d-men(Sanguinetti) playing along side a sophmore d-men like a Gilroy.

This is a recipee for disaster. It's something a team who doesn't want to make the playoffs would do. With a Lundqvist who's not getting any younger, and has voiced that he expects a good playoff run next season; it's not what you want to do by targeting 1 guy and still being left with depth and balance issues.
I still don't see why everyone says center is an issue. We've got Duby and Anisimov now, and Stepan coming soon. If it's a center for Gaborik, why? Gaborik is producing just fine on his own.

For defense, maybe. If Redden wasn't such a bum and was replaced with someone with ANY SKILL WHATSOEVER, we'd be fine. Staal and Girardi are solid, Rozsival is good when his head isn't in his ass, and MDZ is a 19 yr old kid. Only way we can upgrade the defense is if we don't re-sign Girardi and replace him with a UFA, or trade one of Redden or Rozsival for someone cheaper who can still play defense. Anything else would block our young guys like Sangs and McDonagh from making the big club.

As for scoring winger, I agree. We need a second line scoring winger to play in Gabs shadow. Last season I was a big advocate of re-signing Zherdev. He would have been perfect for that role on our second line. He was a good playmaker and could score goals. He sucks as a #1 guy like he was last year but 60pts from a 2nd line winger is pretty damn good.

IMO, dumping Redden and allocating that cap space for a d-man who is actually worth their contract (and can play defense) should be our #1 priority.

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Nice breakdown.

This team NEEDS someone like Martin and NEEDS another 80-90 point guy. With Hank that = contender.

Drury and Redden must go, but Drury has that @(!*@! NMC.

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I still don't see why everyone says center is an issue. We've got Duby and Anisimov now, and Stepan coming soon. If it's a center for Gaborik, why? Gaborik is producing just fine on his own.
How does a guy who just finished his rookie season and a guy who is now a fixture on the left wing solve our problem at center?

As long as EC is your 1st line center, you have problems at center. That's not to say he can't get better, but no team wins in this league without being strong down the middle. It's not about making your superstars better, it's about making the other players better. It's about controlling the play.

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How does a guy who just finished his rookie season and a guy who is now a fixture on the left wing solve our problem at center?

As long as EC is your 1st line center, you have problems at center. That's not to say he can't get better, but no team wins in this league without being strong down the middle. It's not about making your superstars better, it's about making the other players better. It's about controlling the play.
Really I don't understand how people don't realize this. Just look at the past cup winners and tell me when was the last time someone won without a real 1st line center? Most teams actually had two great centers, and I don't see anyone currently in our system that will realistically be able to be one. Stepan and Anisimov might still turn into at least a good 2nd line center, but even if we somehow develop one ourselves, we will sooner or later have to pay him some big bucks.

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Okay, but the point is, unless you're going to trade Hank and Gabby, you will not get a shot at a Crosby-like center. Frankly, you won't get a shot at Kovy-like winger either.

This is a one-time opportunity to get a legit top five scoring threat in the lineup. Would it be better if he played center? Sure. But, by the same token, the plan isn't to continue to have 2 top wingers centered by waiver wire castoffs and rookies. We don't have superstar centers in our pipeline, but we've got really good, solid centers in our pipeline - you plant those guys (and other forwards like Kreider and Grachev) around these guys and you'll have two very solid scoring lines over the next couple of years.

Part of what makes this plan so appealing is that Kovy and Gabby are so young. Will the team contend with this lineup next year? Doubtful (although my bet would be that they'd make the playoffs). But in 3 years, when Gabby and Kovy are 30 and 31, respectively? That's going to be one scary team.

Better yet, because you've got the superstars on the contracts beginning now and the kids are still a few years away, it plays out really well from a cap perspective - just as the kids are all coming up to their UFA years, Gabby's and then Kovy's contracts are expiring.

As always, this comes with my standard caveat that you need to be able to sign Kovy to a contract with a cap hit around Crosby's or less. If someone else is willing to do something ridiculous like $11MM per year, you walk away.

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I think you're selling Kovalchuk short. He doesn't have the physicality or personality of Ovechkin, but his deking, skating and vision are all superb. He also has never had the supporting cast Ovechkin has in Washington (no, the Devils do not count, they have been a ~.430 team since January... the Devils ship has been sinking since long before Kovalchuk arrived).
And our boat hasn't been sinking?

Nothing is set in stone, but the Devil's situation should be a very clear signal to people that one acquisition does not make a team. Kovalchuk is good, but we can't handcuff ourselves with a huge payout to him. He's just not that good of a player to throw everything at him, and we're definitely not in the right kind of situation to do that.

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Okay, but the point is, unless you're going to trade Hank and Gabby, you will not get a shot at a Crosby-like center. Frankly, you won't get a shot at Kovy-like winger either.

This is a one-time opportunity to get a legit top five scoring threat in the lineup. Would it be better if he played center? Sure. But, by the same token, the plan isn't to continue to have 2 top wingers centered by waiver wire castoffs and rookies. We don't have superstar centers in our pipeline, but we've got really good, solid centers in our pipeline - you plant those guys (and other forwards like Kreider and Grachev) around these guys and you'll have two very solid scoring lines over the next couple of years.

Part of what makes this plan so appealing is that Kovy and Gabby are so young. Will the team contend with this lineup next year? Doubtful (although my bet would be that they'd make the playoffs). But in 3 years, when Gabby and Kovy are 30 and 31, respectively? That's going to be one scary team.

Better yet, because you've got the superstars on the contracts beginning now and the kids are still a few years away, it plays out really well from a cap perspective - just as the kids are all coming up to their UFA years, Gabby's and then Kovy's contracts are expiring.

As always, this comes with my standard caveat that you need to be able to sign Kovy to a contract with a cap hit around Crosby's or less. If someone else is willing to do something ridiculous like $11MM per year, you walk away.
But maybe another superstar is just not what we need?

Pre-lockout we had enough superstars, but we never had success. granted they were mostly past their prime, but still those teams always underperformed because they were poorly constructed.

I'd rather not sign Kovalchuk and instead try to fix the more important needs of this teams. And most importantly I want this franchise just for once be patient and not try to fix in one offseason what needs some years to develop.
We just have to embrace the fact that we are not going to be much better next season. And the fans have to realize that this is not necessarily a bad thing!

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But maybe another superstar is just not what we need?

Pre-lockout we had enough superstars, but we never had success. granted they were mostly past their prime, but still those teams always underperformed because they were poorly constructed.

I'd rather not sign Kovalchuk and instead try to fix the more important needs of this teams. And most importantly I want this franchise just for once be patient and not try to fix in one offseason what needs some years to develop.
We just have to embrace the fact that we are not going to be much better next season. And the fans have to realize that this is not necessarily a bad thing!
I agree with you regarding every possible acquisition other than a) Kovalchuk and b) low-priced stop-gaps.

After our experience over the last couple of years, I have come to the conclusion that signing UFAs in the $5-6MM range is how you screw your cap. You can get younger guys for $4-5MM, because they're likely RFAs giving up UFA years and are therefore bargains. You also get the (very rare) Kovy or Gabby at $7.5MM+ and they're at least appropriately valued. It's the guys you sign for $1-2MM less than the top guys that kill you - they get paid 80% of what the top guys make, but don't have 80% of the impact.

I therefore want no part of Plekanic, Marleau, Volchenkov, Martin, etc. Anyone we sign for a cap hit of more than $3MM per year will be just perpetuating the same cycle of mediocrity. But Kovy is the exception.

If you can get Kovy for around $8.5MM, that's good disposition of your cap. And as I described in the post above, you can build around him - especially with the types of players we have coming up through our system. The only real mistake would be paying Kovy $10-11MM per year, or signing one of the second tier guys to a $5-7MM per year contract.

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I still don't see why everyone says center is an issue. We've got Duby and Anisimov now, and Stepan coming soon. If it's a center for Gaborik, why? Gaborik is producing just fine on his own.

For defense, maybe. If Redden wasn't such a bum and was replaced with someone with ANY SKILL WHATSOEVER, we'd be fine. Staal and Girardi are solid, Rozsival is good when his head isn't in his ass, and MDZ is a 19 yr old kid. Only way we can upgrade the defense is if we don't re-sign Girardi and replace him with a UFA, or trade one of Redden or Rozsival for someone cheaper who can still play defense. Anything else would block our young guys like Sangs and McDonagh from making the big club.

As for scoring winger, I agree. We need a second line scoring winger to play in Gabs shadow. Last season I was a big advocate of re-signing Zherdev. He would have been perfect for that role on our second line. He was a good playmaker and could score goals. He sucks as a #1 guy like he was last year but 60pts from a 2nd line winger is pretty damn good.

IMO, dumping Redden and allocating that cap space for a d-man who is actually worth their contract (and can play defense) should be our #1 priority.
We have Brandon Dubinsky who has found a niche on the LW, Prospal who is better on the LW but can play C too, Drury who has lost his offensive touch, and Anisimov who is entering his 2nd season(coming off a 28 point season).Don't even give me Christensen, If he's your first line center you know you got problems. Guys like Stepan can't step in right now. We're trying to make the playoffs and go far. It's what I want, It's what a Henrik Lundqvist(not getting any younger) wants. The pieces are in place, you just got to add to it smartly. We need help down the middle.

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Well that kills all of our fantasy's lol. Looks like the original projection of $57.something was correct.

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The league has maintained a slight increase(1%-2%).Former NHLPA assistant boss says $57.7 million. Team exec tells Toronto Star $59 million. Boston Globe says $58 million. Go figure. We'll find out in late June right before the draft.

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