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09-27-2003, 08:31 PM
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Good For Gainey/brisebois

I'm glad to see Gainey rib into the jerk off fans booing Patrice. WTF has he ever done so terrible to deserve that kind of reaction??? Good for Gainey to say something! I wish Lowe would rip some of the fans who were booing Poti!

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He's horrible defensively and doesn't earn his $4.5 million a year salary. Stuff like taking vacations in the middle of the season last year doesn't help.
Brisebois was booed WAY before earning that salary and taking vacation. It is safe to say he would probably not have had a need to take vacations in the first place if not for the pressure he felt.

Not taking his side, but telling it like it is.

Fans have booed him frequently, sometimes undeservedly, for years.

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That's why I said He's horrible defensively
Sure. That's not a reason to pick on him. He ain't the first defenseman to be defensively weak nor the last.

There are many players in this league who have not performed as well as Brisebois over the years and they aren't booed constantly.

Gainey is right. A bunch of gutless ********. He should have added that they are fickle and clueless for good form but obviously, I have more freedom than Bob to do so and get away with it :p

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The problem with Brisebois' boo birds is they're booing him regardless of how he plays. He's been great so far in training camp and has even proved his good faith by bulking up during the summer and showing a willingness to play with more grit and intensity on the ice but even then, all you hear when he touches the puck is boooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Pretty moronic to begin with, this behavior has now become a popular trend for the drunken idiots way up the Bell Center. It doesn't matter how he plays, they just get a kick out of acting retarded in the games. In that context, Gainey said the right thing and didn't try to be diplomatic about it either by calling them gutless ********, yellows, jealous people and pretty much just overall bad fans, not needed in the Bell Center.

What's not to like about Gainey in Montreal so far? He'll bring that "media and fans are the ones calling the shots" mentality down, and it's about time I might add.

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The problem with Brisebois' boo birds is they're booing him regardless of how he plays. He's been great so far in training camp and has even proved his good faith by bulking up during the summer and showing a willingness to play with more grit and intensity on the ice but even then, all you hear when he touches the puck is boooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Pretty moronic to begin with, this behavior has now become a popular trend for the drunken idiots way up the Bell Center. It doesn't matter how he plays, they just get a kick out of acting retarded in the games. In that context, Gainey said the right thing and didn't try to be diplomatic about it either by calling them gutless ********, yellows, jealous people and pretty much just overall bad fans, not needed in the Bell Center.

What's not to like about Gainey in Montreal so far? He'll bring that "media and fans are the ones calling the shots" mentality down, and it's about time I might add.
Great post, exactly what I was thinking. If anybody can set that franchise right it's Gainey.

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I think a lot of Patrice's difficulties over the past few seasons can be linked to the fans and their booing. He's never been what I would say "solid" in his own end, but the guy has absolutely no confidence and his play has really gone down hill.

Like him or not, you have to feel bad for the guy. He does what he can on the ice, but still to no avail he is booed. If he played a lesser role on some other team he could be quite a useful player, but unfortunatly for him with that sort of salary I fail to see him being dealt anytime soon.

Montreal needs to cut him some slack, he's been loyal to the organization. Though, maybe that's because that's where the money is.

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Even if he is not good defensively, he does a great job offensively. He can make a pretty good passes out of his zone IMO. Sometimes he makes errors in his zone by trying to be spectacular but the other times he is okay. I think it is not good to boo the players of your own team, even if they "deserves" it.

 
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I'm glad Gainey has done this. People who boo Brisebois should be ashamed. He refused a move to a Cup challenger to stay in Montreal, despite the booing. That says a lot to me about his feelings towards the Habs.

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I'm glad Gainey has done this. People who boo Brisebois should be ashamed. He refused a move to a Cup challenger to stay in Montreal, despite the booing. That says a lot to me about his feelings towards the Habs.

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Breezy refusing to take a pay cut might also have factored into it. Money means more than a cup to Breezy.

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He's horrible defensively and doesn't earn his $4.5 million a year salary. Stuff like taking vacations in the middle of the season last year doesn't help.
I'm sorry, but so what? He's never going to earn it with the very people he's playing for booing him nonstop. Despite the big contract, the guy's still human. Give him a break.

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Montreal fans picked on Rivet and Traverse last season and booed the American anthem. The boobirds are ignorant...

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Brisebois was being booed long before his big contract and whatnot. As a result, his confidence is pretty much dashed. Montreal management in the past never stuck up for him. It's nice to see someone finally have the balls to tell off those retarded boobirds. Nice work Gainey.

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Montreal fans picked on Rivet and Traverse last season and booed the American anthem. The boobirds are ignorant...
Welp I don't think it's fair to single out the people of Montreal for booing the American anthem when the same incident happened in Vancouver, and when the citizens of Atlanta and other American cities booed the Canadian anthem.




P.S. Who wouldn't boo Traverse?

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One way to deal with this is to put the camera on the boo-birds and make them look moronic on the digital display above center-ice. You could probably adapt some speech recognition technology to recognize booing, track down pockets of booing within a second or so, and hopefully show these morons on camera while they're still at it. Then, if other fans or Bell Center security want to take it up with them personally, or even Bob Gainey himself (I have a feeling he would!), or else, have a ready-made digital enhancement image to depict them as the morons they are, then that would soon quiet them.

Let's face it, the average fan hates this kind of obsessive booing, particularly if it detracts from the players' performance, so it's just not true that booers have the right to do this simply because they paid for their ticket. The other fans have also paid for their ticket, and are entitled to some civility.

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Booing a single player is so stupid. It does nothing for the team, it does nothing for the individual. I'm not against booing the team as a whole when you see a lack of effort but booing individuals is just plain moronic.

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One way to deal with this is to put the camera on the boo-birds and make them look moronic on the digital display above center-ice. You could probably adapt some speech recognition technology to recognize booing, track down pockets of booing within a second or so, and hopefully show these morons on camera while they're still at it. Then, if other fans or Bell Center security want to take it up with them personally, or even Bob Gainey himself (I have a feeling he would!), or else, have a ready-made digital enhancement image to depict them as the morons they are, then that would soon quiet them.
This is far-fetched and won't happen.

I like it, though :p

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There is nothing far-fetched about the technology. I could probably write the program myself (I am a research engineer, although not a speech recognition specialist, but the subject is conceptually related to my computer vision background). I'm pretty sure that it would run in less than a second on Pentium-based hardware. You'd need enough microphones to solve the so-called "inverse problem": given a 3D sound pattern, trace back to the source of booing (it would work a little like a CT scanner, which builds a 3D tissue map from an array of X-ray detectors). We could call it the "Boorish Fan Detector", although BFD might be an unfortunate acronym.

The less defensible part would be the public relations aspect of such a campaign. It could easily backfire, just as Gainey's comment could.

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I have a better, simpler idea still that would simplify the software. One small CCD camera, networked and easily monitored, and one small microphone, both imbedded in front of, and facing, each seat. To prevent this from being a public-relations debacle, as such an idea would be difficult to justify at a public relations level (you wouldn't want paying customers to know about it...), just use the embedded camera and microphone to determine who is causing trouble, and then film the guy using a separate video camera in full view of everyone.

Detection = {microphone-based threshold on volume} AND {microphone-based speech recognition of "boo"} AND {CCD-based recognition of "boo" facial gesture} AND {no valid reason to boo, based on high-level user input}.

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