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04-21-2010, 12:54 PM
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Question from last night?

When Howard had his mask knocked off by a shot and he made a save without his helmet on. The whistle supposed to stop play right away. If the shot that he saved without his helmet had gone in, could the referee use the intended to blow the whistle rule.

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I believe the rule is that the whistle only blows if a legit scoring chance isn't immediately happening.

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04-21-2010, 01:08 PM
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Shouldn't they blow it especially during a scoring chance, when the puck is most likely to hit a goalie's face? Why blow it at all if you don't blow it at the most dangerous time?

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Shouldn't they blow it especially during a scoring chance, when the puck is most likely to hit a goalie's face? Why blow it at all if you don't blow it at the most dangerous time?
Because goalies would go Dwayne Roloson everytime it got frantic.

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Interesting.

I looked into it a bit and there isn't even a rule that says the goalie has to wear a mask at all.

There have been a few occasions from what I can tell where play was not stopped and goalies had to make additional saves.

I wouldn't say it's 100% certain that they would have blown the play dead if he hadn't made the second save without the mask.

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Last night Ken and Mickey said that the play couldn't be blown dead since the Wings did not have complete control of the puck or something. The puck hit Howard's mask and Stempniak immediately hit the rebound. if the rebound had gone further and was controlled by a player, the play would have been blown dead. I think they said it was "bang-bang play" or something like that.

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Yes. They said something like that. They are supposed to blow straight away(?), but if it's banged in on the play(rebound or something), it would have counted.

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Actually, this is a good question.....what about this scenario?

A Phoenix player hits Howard's mask with a wrister, the mask falls off, and the puck bounces about 15-20 ft. back where another player is winding up for a slapshot opportunity. Does the ref. blow the whistle....or if not, does the goal count if the player takes the shot and it goes in?

Also, shouldn't fans at the Joe be chanting "HOWIE" not "JIMMY"? I think we need to nip that in the butt before it's set in stone. I think Howie is the way to go.

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In the OHL, the play would have been dead as soon as it came off. I don't think they have that rule in the NHL, though. I got a chuckle out of the whole play....I'll just peak out here....wham! That is using your head, jimmy.

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it would of counted IMO

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Actually, this is a good question.....what about this scenario?

A Phoenix player hits Howard's mask with a wrister, the mask falls off, and the puck bounces about 15-20 ft. back where another player is winding up for a slapshot opportunity. Does the ref. blow the whistle....or if not, does the goal count if the player takes the shot and it goes in?

Also, shouldn't fans at the Joe be chanting "HOWIE" not "JIMMY"? I think we need to nip that in the butt before it's set in stone. I think Howie is the way to go.
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I remember a few years ago in a Yotes game our goalie got his mask knocked off and they got scored on, it was a goal.

The rule is that the wistle blows when the puck is out of the goalies area and a scoring chance isnt happening.

If this wasnt the rule, whenever the puck would come near the goal, the mask gets flipped off.

And come on? Its not even bad, they played hockey for like 150 years without a mask

GO COYOTES!!!!!!

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I remember a few years ago in a Yotes game our goalie got his mask knocked off and they got scored on, it was a goal.

The rule is that the wistle blows when the puck is out of the goalies area and a scoring chance isnt happening.

If this wasnt the rule, whenever the puck would come near the goal, the mask gets flipped off.

And come on? Its not even bad, they played hockey for like 150 years without a mask

GO COYOTES!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure if the goalie just flipped his mask off to prevent a scoring chance they would either let the play continue or they'd blow the whistle and call him for delay of game, same as if he pushed the net off on purpose to stop a scoring chance.

Might even give the other team a penalty shot if he flipped his mask off when the other team was on a breakaway. Not sure. But it definitely wouldn't work in the goalie's favor if the ref thought he did it on purpose.

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