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04-25-2010, 09:52 AM
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Meh? Aren't there enough plumbers here in the states? I am sure Dean McAmmond types will be available. Thor was is OK but I would rather find a better winger for the top line and move Carcillo down to 3rd line.

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04-25-2010, 11:13 AM
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I love the guy. Would take him, as long as we aren't relying on him to be a scorer for us.

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04-25-2010, 12:18 PM
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04-25-2010, 01:06 PM
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I'm still hopeful Maroon can turn into a useful big-body forward. Bourdon and Marshall seem like good D prospects. After that, it's pretty dubious.
Meh, the only forwards scoring goals or doing anything was Maroon, Matsumoto and Legein.

On defense it was Lehtivouri mostly, with Marshall having an OK season. Bourdon needs to work on skating for him to be better. He didnt have a bad season, but his defensive play is bad. When Gustaffson came, they looked alot better. He put up 7 points in 5 games as a d-man.

That being said, after these 7 or so players, most of the others are just role players. Theres no blue chip prospect. Everyone has a thing for Kalinski here, but he wont be anything more then a 4th liner. Nodl is useless other then playing defense as a forward. Ross kinda looked like he gave up. Laliberte feeds off of Maroon and Matsumoto, hense his points.

That being said, the chances of us grabbing a blue chip prospect this summer is slim to none hense why Homer went and signed all these older junior guys.

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04-25-2010, 01:24 PM
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Thor at 600k or Powe at 900k? which would you rather have?

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04-25-2010, 01:44 PM
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Meh, the only forwards scoring goals or doing anything was Maroon, Matsumoto and Legein.

On defense it was Lehtivouri mostly, with Marshall having an OK season. Bourdon needs to work on skating for him to be better. He didnt have a bad season, but his defensive play is bad. When Gustaffson came, they looked alot better. He put up 7 points in 5 games as a d-man.

That being said, after these 7 or so players, most of the others are just role players. Theres no blue chip prospect. Everyone has a thing for Kalinski here, but he wont be anything more then a 4th liner. Nodl is useless other then playing defense as a forward. Ross kinda looked like he gave up. Laliberte feeds off of Maroon and Matsumoto, hense his points.

That being said, the chances of us grabbing a blue chip prospect this summer is slim to none hense why Homer went and signed all these older junior guys.
I think the Flyers are pretty well set in their Top 6 forwards and top 4 D for a couple years, but you still need to be able to make that call to the farm.

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04-25-2010, 02:15 PM
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04-25-2010, 03:02 PM
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Thor would be nice to have back on the team. Always good to have another Norwegian on the team.

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I like Thor, but we are jammed in the bottom 6. I expect Kalinski to have a shot

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04-25-2010, 05:05 PM
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you guys do realize that if Thor comes back, the potential of Wolfy returning increases tenfold. i don't know about the rest of you, but i don't want ironballs back for that reason alone.

also, what's up everyone?

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04-25-2010, 05:21 PM
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Asham > Thor
They are really too different players to compare. They are both role players that have two different roles. Asham is a physical guy who is really just out there to bruise. Yeah he gets his goals and some assists, but he is there to take guys out of the play. The Flyers have Carcillo and Lappy to do that. Thor plays a more offensive style and has some defensive chops as well. He's not gonna muscle anyone out there or drop the gloves like Asham will, but stick him on a line with Giroux and he'll put up more points than Asham. Book it.

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04-25-2010, 10:24 PM
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Thor at 600k or Powe at 900k? which would you rather have?
Powe at $650k.

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04-26-2010, 04:50 AM
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Powe > Asham > Thoresen imo, if we want to grade them. If we don't resign Asham I hope we'll somehow upgrade with a more offensively skilled winger or give someone like Kalinski a chance to claim a place.

I hope we don't see Thor in a Flyers jersey next season. Apart from blocking that shot he didn't do too much during his stint with us. We had one of the worst 4th lines at the time with him, Dowd and Kapanen (who despite his work ethics simply had run out of gas), and when he played with better players, Richards, he didn't do anything to suggest he belonged on such a line.

One thing I love about Richie is that he clicks with almost any type of player, and also has a tendency to make them better. Downie, Hartnell, Umberger, Lupul all played some of their best games in a Flyers jersey with Richards as their center. Currently he's almost convincing us that Carcillo is a legitimate scoring threat. Thoresen got nothing out of playing with him though.

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Powe > Asham > Thoresen imo, if we want to grade them. If we don't resign Asham I hope we'll somehow upgrade with a more offensively skilled winger or give someone like Kalinski a chance to claim a place.

I hope we don't see Thor in a Flyers jersey next season. Apart from blocking that shot he didn't do too much during his stint with us. We had one of the worst 4th lines at the time with him, Dowd and Kapanen (who despite his work ethics simply had run out of gas), and when he played with better players, Richards, he didn't do anything to suggest he belonged on such a line.

One thing I love about Richie is that he clicks with almost any type of player, and also has a tendency to make them better. Downie, Hartnell, Umberger, Lupul all played some of their best games in a Flyers jersey with Richards as their center. Currently he's almost convincing us that Carcillo is a legitimate scoring threat. Thoresen got nothing out of playing with him though.
If they are looking at Thor then that tells me they must think that kalinski and the like are not good enough or not ready for an everyday a 4th line role. As much as we all want them to be given a chance, the flyers brass has a better knowledge as to where they thinkt he player is at. If that is the case that isnt good.

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04-26-2010, 07:36 AM
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The reason they're looking at Thor is because they still own his rights and want to know if he's worth keeping or letting go. It's not that they think they have a hole that nobody else can fill, just that they want to know what they have before signing him or letting him move on.

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04-26-2010, 07:41 AM
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The reason they're looking at Thor is because they still own his rights and want to know if he's worth keeping or letting go. It's not that they think they have a hole that nobody else can fill, just that they want to know what they have before signing him or letting him move on.
Dont see that as the reason they are looking at him. They know what kind of layer he is.

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04-26-2010, 08:58 AM
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Thor at 600k or Powe at 900k? which would you rather have?
Powe at 900K and it is not even close.

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04-26-2010, 09:59 AM
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Powe at 900K and it is not even close.
why? what exactly does powe bring that thorsen wouldnt?

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04-26-2010, 10:00 AM
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Who said Powe will be making 900K?

10-15% raise. Thats it! Same goes for 10min per game Ryan Parent.

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why? what exactly does powe bring that thorsen wouldnt?
imo Powe is more physical, can line up anywhere LW/C/RW and he is much faster.

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04-26-2010, 10:21 AM
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Who said Powe will be making 900K?

10-15% raise. Thats it! Same goes for 10min per game Ryan Parent.

imo Powe is more physical, can line up anywhere LW/C/RW and he is much faster.
powe will seek more than a 10% raise. what does he make know? Think they are both = in physical dept. dont think powe is faster at all. powe has better hands probably. ratehr have a cheaper similiar player, even if only a few hundred k. Wouldnt be surrpised to see him traded when he ask for 1mm per.

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powe will seek more than a 10% raise. what does he make know? Think they are both = in physical dept. dont think powe is faster at all. powe has better hands probably. ratehr have a cheaper similiar player, even if only a few hundred k. Wouldnt be surrpised to see him traded when he ask for 1mm per.
He makes 520K and imo he deserves 10-15%. Ok fine, maybe even 20% raise. No one will trade for him, or make an offer sheet and I do not think he will demand something. We make him an offer and if he does not take it, he can **** off. It is THAT simple.

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thanks but no thanks.. asham needs to get re-signed I think he proved hes not over the hill yet.

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powe will seek more than a 10% raise. what does he make know? Think they are both = in physical dept. dont think powe is faster at all. powe has better hands probably. ratehr have a cheaper similiar player, even if only a few hundred k. Wouldnt be surrpised to see him traded when he ask for 1mm per.
Sometimes I'm amazed at two people's differing viewpoints on the same player. If I were to describe Powe I'd say he's quite physical, VERY fast, and has stone hands. In comparison to what I remember from Thor, I'd say Powe is certainly more physical, certainly faster, and certainly has worse hands.

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powe will seek more than a 10% raise. what does he make know? Think they are both = in physical dept. dont think powe is faster at all. powe has better hands probably. ratehr have a cheaper similiar player, even if only a few hundred k. Wouldnt be surrpised to see him traded when he ask for 1mm per.
Betts just signed for 700K a year.

Powe should get bumped to the 600-700K range (just to be paid like a guy that has earned his roster spot), but he isn't going to be getting 1M per year (from anyone). And if someone does go after him as a RFA at that price tag... move on.

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