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04-26-2010, 05:36 PM
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Carter and co will be the first line in this series. Richie et al will be bumped down to the third.

Bank on it.

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04-26-2010, 05:47 PM
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Carter and co will be the first line in this series. Richie et al will be bumped down to the third.

Bank on it.
vanRiemsdyk - Giroux - Asham

or

Hartnell - Briere - Leino

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Maroon - Richards - Carcillo


Those are your options...pick a 1st line...

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Regarding why people do/don't get called up: I was at the USA hockey Level 4 coaching clinic last fall, and I remember Kevin Constantine speaking about hockey sense. He said that's what it usually comes down to with people getting called up and sent down. The reason why you see a guy tearing up the AHL and never get a shot (or just get a game or two up in the NHL) is because they're just not smart enough/they're not committed enough to doing the things that they need to do to excel in the NHL.

Matsumoto's young, so maybe it's more a case of youth than commitment, but in terms of call-ups and prospect management (gauging readiness), I'm willing to give the Flyers the benefit of the doubt.

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04-26-2010, 05:53 PM
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Regarding why people do/don't get called up: I was at the USA hockey Level 4 coaching clinic last fall, and I remember Kevin Constantine speaking about hockey sense. He said that's what it usually comes down to with people getting called up and sent down. The reason why you see a guy tearing up the AHL and never get a shot (or just get a game or two up in the NHL) is because they're just not smart enough/they're not committed enough to doing the things that they need to do to excel in the NHL.

Matsumoto's young, so maybe it's more a case of youth than commitment, but in terms of call-ups and prospect management (gauging readiness), I'm willing to give the Flyers the benefit of the doubt.
Paddock has said at the end of the Phantoms season Matsumoto didnt get called up becuase they dont think he was nhl ready yet. So that is the reason why.

A maroon-richards-carcillo line would get eaten alive by the caps imo.

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It's unclear to me why we're bringing in AHL guys to the lineup to fill in spots on Richards' line, when you have a guy like Kalinski that you can plug in as an energy/checker effectively.
Yea! Don't forget, Kalinski is also media savy since he did his cool Virtua Health care commercial. We can always use a forward that can FLY.

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04-26-2010, 06:13 PM
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Paddock has said at the end of the Phantoms season Matsumoto didnt get called up becuase they dont think he was nhl ready yet. So that is the reason why.

A maroon-richards-carcillo line would get eaten alive by the caps imo.
A Laliberte-Richards-Carcillo line wouldnt?

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04-26-2010, 06:16 PM
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A Laliberte-Richards-Carcillo line wouldnt?
I wish they'd move into a two-line format and get Kalinski in:

vanRiemsdyk - Richards - Giroux
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere
Powe - Kalinski - Asham

I still think that's the way to go, but as long as we're going with the 3 line format, I think Maroon brings more to the table than Laliberte.

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A Laliberte-Richards-Carcillo line wouldnt?
Where did you see me say or state they wouldnt?

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vanRiemsdyk - Giroux - Asham

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Hartnell - Briere - Leino

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Maroon - Richards - Carcillo


Those are your options...pick a 1st line...
Sorry, finals = brain fart.

I see the Betts line going against Ovie and his line.

I don't know enough about the Caps roster depth to say which of our lines would go against their other lines, but we're weak defensively now beyond the Betts line. In terms of creating mismatches for us (primarily at home), what do you guys think we do?

Maybe they make a size/banger line of Powe, Hartnell, and Asham to see if they can get a mismatch with Washington's D. That kind of echos Chris's comments about bring Kalinski up.

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Where did you see me say or state they wouldnt?
I was compareing the Laliberte-Richards-Carcillo to what you said would be torn up. As we can see, they are either putting Maroon or Laliberte on that line.

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Sorry, finals = brain fart.

I see the Betts line going against Ovie and his line.

I don't know enough about the Caps roster depth to say which of our lines would go against their other lines, but we're weak defensively now beyond the Betts line. In terms of creating mismatches for us (primarily at home), what do you guys think we do?

Maybe they make a size/banger line of Powe, Hartnell, and Asham to see if they can get a mismatch with Washington's D. That kind of echos Chris's comments about bring Kalinski up.
Ovechkin (50-109) - Backstrom (33-101) - Knuble (29-53) ---> Pronger or Timonen (extremely hard job)
Fleischmann (23-51) - Belanger (15-41) - Semin (40-84) ---> Pronger or Timonen (shut down Semin, far easier)
Laich (25-59) - Morrison (12-42) - Fehr (21-39) ---> Any of the three (this line gets by playing thinner defenses)
Chimera (15-34) - Gordon (4-10) - Bradley (10-24) ---> not worried

Schultz (+50-23) - Green (+39-19) ---> exploit (weak defensively)
Poti (+26-24) - *Carlson (+11-6) ---> exploit (weak defensively)
Morrisonn (+8-12) - Corvo (-10-18) ---> exploit (weak defensively)

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04-26-2010, 07:23 PM
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I was compareing the Laliberte-Richards-Carcillo to what you said would be torn up. As we can see, they are either putting Maroon or Laliberte on that line.
It is pure speculation that they will be a line. I highly doubt they would put either of those guys with richards unless shift or 2 at most. That means they would have to probably play double digit minutes which i dont think is likely unless a blowout. Either way that line would get abused no matter maroon or laliberte

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It is pure speculation that they will be a line. I highly doubt they would put either of those guys with richards unless shift or 2 at most. That means they would have to probably play double digit minutes which i dont think is likely unless a blowout. Either way that line would get abused no matter maroon or laliberte
It is not pure speculation. It will be a line.

However, there will be:
-Plenty of powerplay time that Laliberte/Maroon will not be a part of.
-Plenty of 4/4 time that Laliberte/Maroon will not be a part of.
-Plenty of penalty kill time that Laliberte/Maroon will not be a part of.
-Random situations where Laviolette decides to skate "super lines" for the heck of it.

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It is not pure speculation. It will be a line.

However, there will be:
-Plenty of powerplay time that Laliberte/Maroon will not be a part of.
-Plenty of 4/4 time that Laliberte/Maroon will not be a part of.
-Plenty of penalty kill time that Laliberte/Maroon will not be a part of.
-Random situations where Laviolette decides to skate "super lines" for the heck of it.
Correct on your points unless the refs let them play. However if they dress maroon i would think he would get pp time a she does have soft hands and is a big body in front.

Do you want to bet that will not be a line except for maybe a few shifts? What did laliberte play last game 5 minutes? who was he paired with the most? The coach isnt that dumb to put those 3 together as it is waste of richards talent. This isnt NJ, assuming they play the caps that would be a recipe for disaster having those 3 together for any extended period. So you go ahead and try to justify how it wouldnt.

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Correct on your points unless the refs let them play. However if they dress maroon i would think he would get pp time a she does have soft hands and is a big body in front.

Do you want to bet that will not be a line except for maybe a few shifts? What did laliberte play last game 5 minutes? who was he paired with the most? The coach isnt that dumb to put those 3 together as it is waste of richards talent. This isnt NJ, assuming they play the caps that would be a recipe for disaster having those 3 together for any extended period. So you go ahead and try to justify how it wouldnt.
No you're correct on that. Maroon won't see much ice time. As for a big body in front of the net, unless he's taking JVR or Hartnell's spot, I wouldn't count on it. Even Pronger goes to the net first.

vanRiemsdyk - Pronger - Giroux
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No you're correct on that. Maroon won't see much ice time. As for a big body in front of the net, unless he's taking JVR or Hartnell's spot, I wouldn't count on it. Even Pronger goes to the net first.

vanRiemsdyk - Pronger - Giroux
Timonen - Richards

Not counting on it at all but i believe he will see some time there imo if he plays (still dontthinkhe will). Those polaroids Hartnell has must be good stuff. Like you said earlier if you play one of these guys play someone who can help. Maroon can probably help on the pp. Hartnell has shown really no signs of turning it around. give the pp time to Maroon and maybe he gives the team a spark or flourishes in that area. Comapred to what Hartnell has done on the pp there is nothing to lose.

As far as Pronger in front i hope they kepp doing that. No reaosn to think they wont with the injuries they now have.

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Not counting on it at all but i believe he will see some time there imo if he plays (still dontthinkhe will). Those polaroids Hartnell has must be good stuff. Like you said earlier if you play one of these guys play someone who can help. Maroon can probably help on the pp. Hartnell has shown really no signs of turning it around. give the pp time to Maroon and maybe he gives the team a spark or flourishes in that area. Comapred to what Hartnell has done on the pp there is nothing to lose.

As far as Pronger in front i hope they kepp doing that. No reaosn to think they wont with the injuries they now have.
Hartnell's 4.2m pay-check says otherwise. They'll keep going to him on the PP.

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Hartnell's 4.2m pay-check says otherwise. They'll keep going to him on the PP.
For some odd reason i dont think that is the reason. He is already gettign paid regardless. So why hurt yoru chances to continue running him out there on the pk. They will keep him there no doubt which is inexcusable at this point.

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You know, just saying, but the Caps should finish Montreal off before we start worrying about playing them, they're one game away from a classic first seed choke

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You know, just saying, but the Caps should finish Montreal off before we start worrying about playing them, they're one game away from a classic first seed choke

This is wise advice.

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You know, just saying, but the Caps should finish Montreal off before we start worrying about playing them, they're one game away from a classic first seed choke
I'd love to see the Caps choke.

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They aren't really choking. They had something like 52 shots last night. Their goaltending sucks and Halak stole the show.

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They aren't really choking. They had something like 52 shots last night. Their goaltending sucks and Halak stole the show.







Wow...did he ever. I believe he's in the neighborhood of 9-1 when he faces 40 or more shots.

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I would like to see:

JVR-Richards-Carcillo
Hartnell-Briere-Giroux
Kalinski/Powe-Betts-Lappy
Leino-Kalinski/Powe-Asham (minimal ice time)

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Coburn
Krajicek-Parent

Boucher
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