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04-27-2010, 10:33 AM
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So, who's next in line to backup Henrik?

With the feelings both Valiquette and Auld won't be back next year, and the strong probability Johnson will stay in Hartford, who do you see backing up Hank? And for how much? As already talked here and there, the idea of Hedberg is great, but there's a bunch of goalies on the market this summer, and nothing is 100% guaranteed... I thought that was a good idea to keep all goalie talks in one thread since this is a sensitive matter going into the offseason after this season's fiasco. If mods feel otherwise, oh well...

Here's the 2010 UFA class, for a more complete list, including RFAs, check here:

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents...none&type=none

Player Age Team 09-10 Salary Notes
Evgeni Nabokov 33 SJ $6,000,000
Marty Turco 33 DAL $5,400,000  
Jose Theodore 32 WASH $4,500,000
Vesa Toskala 32 CAL $4,000,000
Chris Mason 33 STL $3,000,000
Dan Ellis 29 NASH $2,000,000
Ray Emery 26 PHI $1,500,000
Martin Biron 31 NYI $1,400,000
Jonas Hiller 27 ANA $1,300,000 Re-signed with the Ducks. 4 years, $18 million.
Peter Budaj 26 COL $1,250,000  
Johan Hedberg 36 ATL $1,175,000
Patrick Lalime 34 BUF $1,000,000
Alex Auld 28 NYR $1,000,000
Pekka Rinne 26 NASH $725,000 Re-signed with the Predators. 2 years, $6.8 million.
Stephen Valiquette 31 NYR $725,000  
Michael Leighton 28 CAR$600,000
Curtis Sanford 29 MON $600,000  
Antero Niittymaki 29 TB $600,000
Brent Johnson 32 PIT $525,000
Yann Danis 28 NJ $500,000
Andrew Raycroft 29 VAN $500,000  
Dany Sabourin 28 BOS TBA  
Scott Munroe 27 NYI TBA
Joey MacDonald29 ANA TBA 

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Just re-sign Auld. It's a no-brainer!

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Depends on what we want. Is Henrik going to play 73 games again? If so, paying Auld $1MM probably is unnecessary. If we're actually going to try keeping Henke fresh, around 65 games or so, then Auld is a good choice.

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I don't see the point in chasing someone other than Auld. He's one of the better back-ups in the league. If Tortorella isn't going to ride Lundqvist this year, then Auld makes perfect sense.

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Sign Hedberg or Auld and give them around 20 games.

Unfortunately, this team will be even in less of a position to let the backup play that many games than they were this season

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Hedberg, Auld, Ellis in that order are the only ones I'd consider.

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Sign Hedberg or Auld and give them around 20 games.

Unfortunately, this team will be even in less of a position to let the backup play that many games than they were this season
If this is the case, after all the offseason moves, i'd rather have Hedberg play 15 to 20 games then Auld. Auld is a good back-up, but Hedberg is something else. He played very well for a not so good Atlanta team, has a good history as well.

He is also someone I would have some faith in if (knock on wood 1000x's over) Lundqvist got hurt. I don't think I would have faith in Auld in taking over the starting job.

Though it depends on what he is looking for. With several legit starting goalies hitting the market (Nabakov, Turco, Theodore, Mason), and many back-ups, may be it will drive the cost down.

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It will depends on capspace

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I want Johnson, no sense to keep him in HFD.

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Brent Johnson signed a 2 year extension with Pitt a few weeks ago. The Rangers need a quality back-up for Henrik and another goalie in the organization. You need 5 goalies. The Rangers have 3. Chad Johnson and Cameron Talbot. Matt Zaba is a group 6 UFA.

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I want Johnson, no sense to keep him in HFD.
Yes, there is sense to keep him in Hartford. To get starts. It's only going to be his second year being a pro hockey player. It would stunt his development, more then likely, only playing 10 to 20 games in a season. Not to mention I have no faith in him if he had to take over the starting duties if Lundqvist got hurt (Again, knock on wood 1000x's).

If the Rangers were in a playoff spot at the time if Lundqvist got hurt, the Rangers would scramble and try to trade for a goalie.

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I want Johnson, no sense to keep him in HFD.
I would go with him. I see Lundqvist getting the same amount of games as he did last season. Especially now he will have longer periods of rest in between games. If I'm the coach I would play him as much as he's capable. It would bother me to no end if my team loses and I'm second guessing myself. Lundqvist is our Crosby or Ovechkin. This is the guy every team knows they have to beat when they play us. Imo he's still the Rangers best player. I think at this point, he's the team's Captain as well. Even though Drury gets to wear the "C."
I know I could be wrong. But I would go with Johnson also. In the mean time, the Rangers should be looking for some Goal Tenders, and guys who can play RW during the up and coming draft(s). I see even HF has us dropped again to #12. We were just at #3. The team has more than enough defense men to battle for positions.

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1 year, .9 mil for Auld. I think he completes Henrik. He has an active glove hand, and is a much better puckhandler.

I dont know if any of you noticed, But Henrik's puckhandling behind the net AND glove side improved significantly about a week after uld joined the team onwards.

Not having Valiquette as your goaltending buddy has its benefits.

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Just sign Auld. It dosen't get any simpler than that... He's a guy that understands his role and looks decent out there.

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Not sure how many of you advocating CJ as the backup actually watched him in Hartford over the 2nd half. He's not even remotely close to being ready.

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I'm not sure what's wrong with Auld, I'd sign him. Hedberg would be fine too I guess, but I don't see why the organization appears set on moving away from Auld...

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Though I like Torts, I have to admit I was a little surprised at his comments at the end of the season concerning Auld. Not sure what motivated that, but from what I saw of Auld I thought he was a reasonable, affordable choice for a back up.

If, as I suspect, there are still some offensive and defensive holes on the team when the dust settles then a trustworthy back-up to Lundqvist becomes even more important. The team can't keep asking Hank to play 70+ games so they need someone who can step in and take off some of that pressure.

I'd like to see them stick with Auld and really give him 15-20 games. But if it ain't gonna be him, then I think Moose wouldn't be a bad choice either.

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Nittymaki. He's capable of stealing a game, but he's not consistent enough to be a starter. And he's cheap.

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Not sure how many of you advocating CJ as the backup actually watched him in Hartford over the 2nd half. He's not even remotely close to being ready.
Not only that, but what good is it going to be for him to start 9 games over the course of the entire year?

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Yes, there is sense to keep him in Hartford. To get starts. It's only going to be his second year being a pro hockey player. It would stunt his development, more then likely, only playing 10 to 20 games in a season. Not to mention I have no faith in him if he had to take over the starting duties if Lundqvist got hurt (Again, knock on wood 1000x's).

If the Rangers were in a playoff spot at the time if Lundqvist got hurt, the Rangers would scramble and try to trade for a goalie.
I don't care about his development. We cannot develop players. Why goalies should eb any different? I can see the benefit of playing in AHL, but I'd rather have a forward for the cap hit. If Lundqvist hurt, just turn the lights off and close the store. No backup would help.

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Nittymaki. He's capable of stealing a game, but he's not consistent enough to be a starter. And he's cheap.
Was thinking the same thing, then saw he played 48 games for tampa. Not sure if he'd be ok with playing 15.

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1 year, .9 mil for Auld. I think he completes Henrik. He has an active glove hand, and is a much better puckhandler.

I dont know if any of you noticed, But Henrik's puckhandling behind the net AND glove side improved significantly about a week after uld joined the team onwards.

Not having Valiquette as your goaltending buddy has its benefits.
Yes, this. Give Auld 15 or so games and we're golden.

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Nittymaki. He's capable of stealing a game, but he's not consistent enough to be a starter. And he's cheap.
He's called Shiitimaki for a reason.

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Bring back Auld. He's a pretty decent back up.

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Was thinking the same thing, then saw he played 48 games for tampa. Not sure if he'd be ok with playing 15.
Niittymaki played 48 games, mostly because of Smith being injured and not really performing up to expectations when healthy. I'm not sure he was supposed to play ~ 50 games when he signed last summer.

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Halak...definitely Halak

And to think, Montreal just about traded him to the Flyers mid-season....but he is a RFA...

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