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04-30-2010, 04:59 PM
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Chris Drury to Washington Caps

Just curious about opinions of a return if Sather were to, hypothetically, have Ted Leonsis' attention.

To Caps: Drury + starting Defensman (not Redden or Staal)

To NYR:

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04-30-2010, 05:02 PM
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Just curious about opinions of a return if Sather were to, hypothetically, have Ted Leonsis' attention.

To Caps: Drury + starting Defensman (not Redden or Staal)

To NYR:
The other hurrdle to jump over his Drury's NMC. Gotta see if he would waive it first.

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There's absolutely no way the Caps would take on Drury's contract when they have legitimate stars they need to re-up soon.

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Drury for Semin (he says with a straight face.)

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No. Movement. Clause.

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No. Movement. Clause.
SERIOUSLY!

Come one people, he is not going anywhere, the NMC means he will be a Ranger until the end of his tenure here...it seems like we need to go through this every day...

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Drury for Semin (he says with a straight face.)
Damn, you have a good poker face. lol

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NMC should stand for, (no money clause), or (no more captain) when you don't produce and play sub-par.

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I'm aware of the NMC.

Lets just say, hypothetically, Chris perceives a personal advantage to waiving his NMC to finish out his current contract as a Washington Cap.

What would a fair return be in your opinion?


Drury + D man

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Why couldn't Sather do what a lot of other GM's did that handed out NMC's? A few have the NMC or NTC expire a few years into a long-term contract. For example, a player signs a 5 year contract and the NMC is good for the first three years.

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I'm aware of the NMC.

Lets just say, hypothetically, Chris perceives a personal advantage to waiving his NMC to finish out his current contract as a Washington Cap.

What would a fair return be in your opinion?


Drury + D man
What D-man would be going back to the Caps? Giradi? Roszival? Gilroy? Either way thats $9 to $12 million going to the Caps, who need the salary cap space. Who would the send back, salary wise? I would think Semin ($6 million cap hit) would have to be included, but he holds so much more value then Drury and either Girardi/Roszival/Gilroy.

The Caps have a lot of RFA's to re-sign this summer: Fehr, Fleischmann, Backstrom, Gordon, and Schultz. Then they have to fill out the rest of their roster.

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What D-man would be going back to the Caps? Giradi? Roszival? Gilroy? Either way thats $9 to $12 million going to the Caps, who need the salary cap space. Who would the send back, salary wise? I would think Semin ($6 million cap hit) would have to be included, but he holds so much more value then Drury and either Girardi/Roszival/Gilroy.

The Caps have a lot of RFA's to re-sign this summer: Fehr, Fleischmann, Backstrom, Gordon, and Schultz. Then they have to fill out the rest of their roster.
Dan Girardi


Both teams have plenty of managing of their cap budget, RFA's, spots to upgrade, and general tweaking to the rosters on the immediate horizon.

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I'm aware of the NMC.

Lets just say, hypothetically, Chris perceives a personal advantage to waiving his NMC to finish out his current contract as a Washington Cap.

What would a fair return be in your opinion?


Drury + D man
Problem is, there aren't too many movable, good pieces on Washington. They could actually benefit from Drury's veteran presence, but who could they move? Signs point to Semin, but considering he will be a UFA wanting a huge payday, I doubt the Caps get back as much as they'd want, therefore I don't know if they'd trade him.

Maybe they'd be interested in something like Drury+Grachev for Semin+Erskine...I think Grachev is overrated personally, but he could be a 30 goal scorer at some point down the line. Drury is super overpaid, but with the allure of our "best" prospect, maybe it'd be possible if they really wanted to deal Semin.

I wouldn't do it personally, because I hate A.S., but to get a guy who can score like that, we're gonna have to move something top notch in terms of youth (since they can't take back high salary along with Drury)...anyway, that's just my thoughts on it. Don't think it gets done from either team really, but I don't think it's TOO far off.

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Problem is, there aren't too many movable, good pieces on Washington. They could actually benefit from Drury's veteran presence, but who could they move? Signs point to Semin, but considering he will be a UFA wanting a huge payday, I doubt the Caps get back as much as they'd want, therefore I don't know if they'd trade him.

Maybe they'd be interested in something like Drury+Grachev for Semin+Erskine...I think Grachev is overrated personally, but he could be a 30 goal scorer at some point down the line. Drury is super overpaid, but with the allure of our "best" prospect, maybe it'd be possible if they really wanted to deal Semin.

I wouldn't do it personally, because I hate A.S., but to get a guy who can score like that, we're gonna have to move something top notch in terms of youth (since they can't take back high salary along with Drury)...anyway, that's just my thoughts on it. Don't think it gets done from either team really, but I don't think it's TOO far off.
If Glen Sather could ever turn Chris Drury into Alex Semin it would be the biggest heist of all time.

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Even if Drury were to waive his NMC for a trade, I find the only way to get rid of him would be to trade him to one of those poorer teams that are no where near the cap hit in the last year of his contract, when he will be making $5M.

Otherwise, nobody is going to want him, he's almost as unmovable as Redden, even without the NMC.

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Even if Drury were to waive his NMC for a trade, I find the only way to get rid of him would be to trade him to one of those poorer teams that are no where near the cap hit in the last year of his contract, when he will be making $5M.

Otherwise, nobody is going to want him, he's almost as unmovable as Redden, even without the NMC.
If he waives his NTC, he's going to choose where he wants to go poor team or rich team.

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I don't see the caps biting on this deal
I like Drury and all his cap hit is just to much
and if Semin is traded I doubt we would take on an even bigger cap hit in Drury
I'd do Semin for Anisomov and Sangunetti though

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Just curious about opinions of a return if Sather were to, hypothetically, have Ted Leonsis' attention.

To Caps: Drury + starting Defensman (not Redden or Staal)

To NYR:

Zero chance of that happening. Soon they'll be in cap strife as well with Backstron and Semin due for significant pay rises. With Staal off limits they would ask for Del Zotto. There is no way they do that still..


They would get some serious intangibles though if the deal went through. IMO that's what they lacked against Habs.

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Zero chance of that happening. Soon they'll be in cap strife as well with Backstron and Semin due for significant pay rises. With Staal off limits they would ask for Del Zotto. There is no way they do that still..


They would get some serious intangibles though if the deal went through. IMO that's what they lacked against Habs.
The thing is you don't need to spend 7 million dollars on intangibles
and Semins not getting a raise hes gone this summer or next

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They would get some serious intangibles though if the deal went through. IMO that's what they lacked against Habs.
We joke about it, but we all saw the missing "intangibles" in the series with Montreal. An impressive amount of young offensive minded talent built around perhaps the best single player in the game, ousted in round one.

Can't blame the goal tending either.

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The thing is you don't need to spend 7 million dollars on intangibles
and Semins not getting a raise hes gone this summer or next

haha I was joking about intangibles.

You dont see Caps bringing Semin back? Asking for too much?

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The thing is you don't need to spend 7 million dollars on intangibles
You'd like to think so, but what if the Caps are a tweak or two away from finding the right mix to go all the way. They surly are full of talented players, good goaltending.

They appeared somewhat out-coached to me, or rather some of the players were just not playing as if they were coached...

Chris Drury has won the Stanley cup on teams where he didnt have to be THE GUY.... although he often stepped up to be THE GUY in the big games. Right place, right time...

He's been mediocre in New York. But he could be just what the Caps need to get them to the next level in the playoffs. Add a quality D man and it could be a win win for both teams as they approach crunch time

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If Glen Sather could ever turn Chris Drury into Alex Semin it would be the biggest heist of all time.
He basically turned Gomez into Gaborik + McDonagh + Prust because he timed his moves correctly, or luckily.

Either way I'm through under estimating Glen Sather as a trader

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Just curious about opinions of a return if Sather were to, hypothetically, have Ted Leonsis' attention.

To Caps: Drury + starting Defensman (not Redden or Staal)

To NYR:
I think you got it right. Drury + Girardi for future considerations. Perhaps a conditional 2nd round pick. Moving those two guys would instantly clear ~8.5M in cap space. Dumping Redden would add another 7M. That would be more than enough to sign all our guys who need to be re-upped and still have money left to go after a big UFA forward. I like it!

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Actually, the Caps would probably be a perfect fit for someone like Drury. However, he just makes way too much freaking money. It's not in the cards

Also, I don't think he wants to go to Washington. I just don't see it. I can see him going back to Buffalo or the Avs, but that's it. I don't think he wants to be a rental

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