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09-27-2003, 01:02 PM
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This might be interesting to Broons fans

Before I get to Cujo got clearance to resume practicing story there was a story in the Toronto Sun by Al Strachan that may effect the Broons goaltending as soon as this week. The story is actually about the Allaire brothers Francois and Benoit who are guru's of goaltending coaches. I never heard of them to be honest but the story goes that Benoit who works for the Coyotes as their goaltending coach for the past 6 years and helped transform Sean Burke into the save % leader over the past 4 years (hmmmmmmm) has taken Brian Boucher as his project and Boucher is getting it. Now, the Yotes in a story in the Arizona Republic have 4 goalies but can only protect two and will lose 1 max. The story says they like Zac Bierk quite a bit and that Jean-Marc Pelletier has quite an upside and an attractive two-way contract that makes him even more attractive. One of the story says Burke is a good chance to be moved. It reasons that Boucher who has affordable contract and has done all this work with the GUY who is the eyes and ears of the Yotes goaltending would be safe. Burke HAS to be available but how will the Yotes dance around this to lose only him and not deal him and then get doubly screwed and lose say Pelletier. Sounds like some creativity is going to happen here but how....I KNOW as of last Monday they still had their eyes on Burke. We'll have to see what that means after the Detroit game and the Habs game to the goaltending situation.

Also, Cujo is coming back and what do the Wings do? Leave their highly thought of backup Manny Legace out there to get plucked and then have Cujo dealt? No way! I'm no goalie guru but isn't Legace pretty good- he's not just a byproduct of the Wings completely? The Wings wont expose him methinks so Cujo is going to have to be placed out there for anyone willing to swallow hard. Even with Potvin allowing 8 goals tomorrow against Rags I think the Broons will pass up; there would have to be a deal ahead of time and the Broons could do that unlike the Yotes who probably can't- don't you see the Yotes working a draft and trade so they keep all three goalies in their system and getting something decent for Burke while shelling his contract; the Boucher story makes me think he's staying so we'll see.

Put me down for Burke in net opening night

Other wild stuff I picked up in ESPN Insider that allows me to find this stuff in seconds.

1. go read the stuff on Stevens and Brashier; it must have been awesome; Brashier is such a punk (but I like it- old time 70's hockey); Seems he was going after the likes of Niedermeyer, Gionta etc....big shark don't care about those smaller fish- right Nemo , anyways, Stevens levels Brashier with one of those Eric Lindrosesque-"son, how many fingers am I holding up" hits. Brashier responds by fighting Stevens; the Philly papers says he kicked the beejezus out of Stevens the NJ says he did well and held his own. These two teams play each other 4 exhibition games which is great- and have another game tonight or tomorrow. I bet the HF boards on those teams sites are cooking over this- maybe I'll troll over out of my neighborhood to see what the rif raf are up to

OTHER INTERESTING STUFF ABOUT OUR FORMER RANT BOYS

Wanvig- having a tough time and he's "confused" over how Jacques (Lemaire) wants him to play. Jacques sounded like he's not a Wanvig guy and it seems for the 3rd year he may be heading to minors. As it is he's one of three guys battling for a third line spot. Wanvig nearly incited a riot on these boards and even though I never saw him play I was CONVINCED he was going to be the next Todd Bertuzzi. OK, he's young but he's headed to the next Landon (of the Lost) Wilson or the dreaded Daniel Goneau. Don't you think the Broons spent alot of time discussing his potential to make it before giving him the money? Were they cheaper back then or was it a good decision because now it seems like they are signing everyone

JEFF HACKETT is struggling a bit; Ken Hitchock said he has to get better and work with the defenseman citing two goals on mixups in last nights 5-4 OT game; actually, we (me) can check out the Brashier-Stevens incidents and get the skinny on Hackett. He talked about the different styles and personnel with the Broons but it didn't sound like a cheap shot; however, Hitchcock was pretty blunt.

THE CERTAIN DEMISE (ok, hopeful) OF THE LEAFS AND RAGS

The estimable Larry Brooks actually I like him, he gives you some pepperoni on that pizza even if you didn't ask for it- mentions how the Rangers have one player under 25 (Lundmark) and if played an oldtimers game with the Stanley Cup Champs from 93 would be older (actually I made that up ) theyz in trouble if the CBA is remotely tough on big spenders; and the Leafs an article in the Toronto Sun are equally greying maybe even moreso than the Rags. I wont crap on them because I like Quinn, love the city, Dave Keon was one of my favorites as a kid and they play vicious entertaining games in the playoffs.

OH, and the guy many of us wanted TONY AMONTE (me, me, me) is struggling mightly and maybe that $6 mil we wanted to give him for 4 years would have been a dissaster. It does appear Tony is now probably a 20ish goal scorer not the flashy Kavorkish (Seinfeld reference) style 40 goal guy anymore.

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"...One of the story[s] says Burke is a good chance to be moved....Also, Cujo is coming back...[and]other wild stuff I picked up in ESPN Insider that allows me to find this stuff in seconds"


On Burkes: I'd say there is no point in the Bruins parting with young talent to get a goalie we'll lose after one season.

On Cujo: we can't afford to pay his salary if he's put up on waivers and, with Lapointe recuperating, the immediate prospect of a salary swap seems to have dimmed.

On ESPN Insider: I appreciate your weekly summary of its stories because it saves me money. Besides, I find enough free info in this forum and at the following links satisfy by Bruins cravings:

http://www.bostonbruins.com
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/
http://www.bostonherald.com/bruins.html
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index&cid=1360
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/
http://www.foxsports.com/named/FS/NHL
http://www.puckupdate.com/
http://slam.canoe.ca/Hockey/home.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sportsTPHockey/
http://www.moreover.com/cgi-local/pa...0hockey%20news
http://www.spectorshockey.net/
http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com...s.cgi?notebook
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/index.jsp
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/front.htm
http://www.hockeyjournal.com/bruins/index.shtml
http://www.russianprospects.com/index.php

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i'll add a few more

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/main.asp
http://www.forecaster.ca/demo/hockey/index.cgi
http://hockeydb.com/
http://www.eliteprospects.com/


Lars Jonsson has played 2 games with Leksands in the SEL. Has already topped last years point totals. 0g-1a-1pt. The bad news for him is the Mike Bales is his teams starting netminder.

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/main.asp
http://www.forecaster.ca/demo/hockey/index.cgi
http://hockeydb.com/
http://www.eliteprospects.com/


Lars Jonsson has played 2 games with Leksands in the SEL. Has already topped last years point totals. 0g-1a-1pt. The bad news for him is the Mike Bales is his teams starting netminder.

Wow, Greg Brown is on that team too. Doesnt that guy ever age?

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Wow, Greg Brown is on that team too. Doesnt that guy ever age?
you click on their top 100 prospects done last September and they have Samuelsson at 9 and Lars at 18; but a couple of those guys are in the NHL and the bio update on Lars is he's coming on quite a bit. It also says it will be updated late September- well, that would mean anyday if so. It will be interesting to see how high he climbs- top 10 seems a good bet and maybe top 5. In either case we voted him our 11th best prospect and we know all

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you click on their top 100 prospects done last September and they have Samuelsson at 9 and Lars at 18; but a couple of those guys are in the NHL and the bio update on Lars is he's coming on quite a bit. It also says it will be updated late September- well, that would mean anyday if so. It will be interesting to see how high he climbs- top 10 seems a good bet and maybe top 5. In either case we voted him our 11th best prospect and we know all
The person who runs eliteprospects.com has been very high on Lars. I wouldn't be suprised at all if he's somewhere around 5-8.

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The person who runs eliteprospects.com has been very high on Lars. I wouldn't be suprised at all if he's somewhere around 5-8.
I just read the game summary from the other night 9/25 and he was singled out as performing very well. Interesting indeed. Certainly the Broons are becoming quite the defenseman prospect team with the four number ones not yet in Boston and the others Meister mentioned led by Jurcina- and don't count out Girard. Well, if Jillson is indeed a top 4 then the Broons are going to be able to deal some of these guys or have one heck of a defensive core. After years at knawing on the likes of Cameron Mann and friends this is quite a different situation; and even though Jillson was the Sharks guy he basically was swapped for McLeavin who was the 9th pick in first round himself.

Jonsson specifically and Morrisson and Jillson all possess the transition games that Meister has posted about; none are here yet but they certainly seem to be on their way.

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The person who runs eliteprospects.com has been very high on Lars. I wouldn't be suprised at all if he's somewhere around 5-8.
hey, that's me
The list will be posted on Tuesday. We are 5 people that have put together the list. As for Lars.. he has for sure climbed up the list, I can tell you that much. I'm not the only one that is high on him, most experts in Sweden have been praising his pre-season play and his play so far in the SEL.

He is the best prospect at D in Sweden right now and I would be very surprised if he does not continue to play with the Swedish national team.
I watched the season opener with Jonsson and he really stood out. Displayed his strong skating, had a couple of really good shots and his assist was a beauty.
He actually reminds me quite a bit of Kim Johnsson, Philadelphia.

Now, if only Andreas Lindström (2000 draft pick, currently in the Swedish 3rd-tier league) would wake up

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If Mike O'COnnell picks up Sean Burke, he will officially be the dumbest GM in hockey.

Let me explain:

If you've got a guy in Potvin signed up for over $2 million dollars, Shields in $1.8 I believe, and then you go out and get Sean Burke because your goaltending needs help - I'm sorry, but the Potvin signing is becoming dumber and dumber by the day. How many of you said this was a great signing and wish you could take saying that back - before even the first regular season game!

If Burke was aquired, don't get me wrong, the team improves DRAMATICALLY, but it would show a clear lack of direction of management. If Potvin isn't the starter this season, expect Jacobs to can Mikey (finally).

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If Mike O'COnnell picks up Sean Burke, he will officially be the dumbest GM in hockey.

Let me explain:

If you've got a guy in Potvin signed up for over $2 million dollars, Shields in $1.8 I believe, and then you go out and get Sean Burke because your goaltending needs help - I'm sorry, but the Potvin signing is becoming dumber and dumber by the day. ).

I'm ignorant on the economics. Are these hard cash deals? Or do we eat some if they are waived if Burke is signed?

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To me, the only way Burke can be acquired without O'Connell getting canned is if he finds a home for one of his misfit toys at around the same time. Say, in the waiver draft.

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To me, the only way Burke can be acquired without O'Connell getting canned is if he finds a home for one of his misfit toys at around the same time. Say, in the waiver draft.
Shields seems like buy out all the way- or they would make him dress up as Ice Girl. Potvin's contract I heard was done with 30 day invisable ink.

Talk about putting patches on the tire

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Shields seems like buy out all the way- or they would make him dress up as Ice Girl. Potvin's contract I heard was done with 30 day invisable ink.

Talk about putting patches on the tire

Invisible ink? Sorry, I don't follow....

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Invisible ink? Sorry, I don't follow....
there is ink that fades after a certain number of days leaving nothing; I had some as a kid at this place called Hobby Caters. My premise was the Broons would all of a sudden be able to say to Potvin, "we never signed you"; I was joking of course but its one way to get out of the contract. My guess though (on a serious note ) is that Potvin will be fine once he gets some time and they sign Boynton in the next 2 days.

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LOL, I know what invisible ink is, I just didn't understand the comparison. I get what you mean now!

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