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05-16-2010, 04:58 PM
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100% agree with that last statement. Weise should be given a very good shot to make the team this upcoming season.
exactly that's why i proposed this for our off-season plan...

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2010-11 SALARY CAP CALCULATOR

2010-2011 NEW YORK RANGERS
PLAYER BONUS CAP HIT
FORWARDS
Marian Gaborik $7,500,000
Chris Drury $7,050,000
* zherdev $3,250,000
* lombardi $3,000,000
Ryan Callahan $2,300,000
Sean Avery $1,937,500
Brandon Dubinsky $1,850,000
Donald Brashear $1,400,000
Aaron Voros $1,000,000
Artem Anisimov $821,666
* Jody Shelley $725,000
* Brandon Prust $700,000
Dale Weise ($80,000) $700,000
Brian Boyle $525,000
DEFENSEMEN
* volchenkov $4,500,000
* Marc Staal $3,500,000
* Daniel Girardi $2,550,000
* Foster $2,000,000
Michael Del Zotto ($212,500) $1,087,500
Bobby Sanguinetti $855,000
* Anders Eriksson $500,000
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist $6,875,000
* Alex Auld $1,000,000
BUYOUTS
NONE
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 23
SALARY CAP $56,800,000
PAYROLL $55,626,666
BONUSES $292,500
CAP SPACE $1,465,834

Dubi-Lombardi-Gaborik
Zherdev-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Drury-Weise
Prust-Boyle-Shelley

extras: Brashear, Voros

Staal-Girardi
Volchenkov-MDZ
Foster-Sangs
7th: Erikson

I think this is a team that would finish 6-8 in the east

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05-16-2010, 05:01 PM
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I also want to see Weise given a shot.
I also want to see Corey Locke given another shot. He needs to learn how to make due with that small stature.


Anyway, I've decided I'm pretty uninterested in Sharp/Byfug, but I still have interest in Versteeg, who is unfortunately, the least likely to be moved.

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05-16-2010, 05:05 PM
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* Foster $2,000,000
Really?

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05-16-2010, 05:06 PM
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Really?
I think he's worth no more than 1.5 but he's going to get paid 2mill.

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I think he's worth no more than 1.5 but he's going to get paid 2mill.
I guess, it's just that it smells deeply of Tom Poti to me.

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05-16-2010, 05:16 PM
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I guess, it's just that it smells deeply of Tom Poti to me.
still 2 mill. isnt that bad for a 6'5 230 guy that has a bomb of a shot and actually uses it unlike rosi. granted hes not as good defensively as rosi

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05-16-2010, 05:24 PM
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exactly that's why i proposed this for our off-season plan...

Rosi moved for 2nd rounder, redden hartford

2010-11 SALARY CAP CALCULATOR

2010-2011 NEW YORK RANGERS
PLAYER BONUS CAP HIT
FORWARDS
Marian Gaborik $7,500,000
Chris Drury $7,050,000
* zherdev $3,250,000
* lombardi $3,000,000
Ryan Callahan $2,300,000
Sean Avery $1,937,500
Brandon Dubinsky $1,850,000
Donald Brashear $1,400,000
Aaron Voros $1,000,000
Artem Anisimov $821,666
* Jody Shelley $725,000
* Brandon Prust $700,000
Dale Weise ($80,000) $700,000
Brian Boyle $525,000
DEFENSEMEN
* volchenkov $4,500,000
* Marc Staal $3,500,000
* Daniel Girardi $2,550,000
* Foster $2,000,000
Michael Del Zotto ($212,500) $1,087,500
Bobby Sanguinetti $855,000
* Anders Eriksson $500,000
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist $6,875,000
* Alex Auld $1,000,000
BUYOUTS
NONE
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 23
SALARY CAP $56,800,000
PAYROLL $55,626,666
BONUSES $292,500
CAP SPACE $1,465,834

Dubi-Lombardi-Gaborik
Zherdev-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Drury-Weise
Prust-Boyle-Shelley

extras: Brashear, Voros

Staal-Girardi
Volchenkov-MDZ
Foster-Sangs
7th: Erikson

I think this is a team that would finish 6-8 in the east
Just some quick issues I have with that line-up:

- Zherdev is a RW.
- Lombardi is going to get a heck of a lot more then $3 million with there only being three good UFA centers (Marleau/Pleks are the other two).
- Volchenkov is looking for $5 million +.
- From the looks of it, Girardi is going to get more then $2.25 million (Although I don't agree, but it makes sense locking him up to something like 4 years $12 million).
- Rangers will try to lock up Staal to a longer-term deal, something like 4 or 5 years at $3.75 to $4 million per year.
- Don't see wise being ready for 3rd line duty.
- Where's MZA? lol

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05-16-2010, 05:28 PM
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Just some quick issues I have with that line-up:

- Zherdev is a RW.
- Lombardi is going to get a heck of a lot more then $3 million with there only being three good UFA centers (Marleau/Pleks are the other two).
- Volchenkov is looking for $5 million +.
- From the looks of it, Girardi is going to get more then $2.25 million (Although I don't agree, but it makes sense locking him up to something like 4 years $12 million).
- Rangers will try to lock up Staal to a longer-term deal, something like 4 or 5 years at $3.75 to $4 million per year.
- Don't see wise being ready for 3rd line duty.
- Where's MZA? lol
1) i just put the wingers wherever regardless of left or right i just did this quick
2) I'd go up to 3.25 for lombardi no more than that
3) if volchenkov wants more tell him to go f off
4) i have girardi at 2.55 which i think is reasonable i could see him getting like 2.75 though
5) i have staal at 3.5 i think well try to sign him on a deal that will take him until his last rfa year 4 to 5 years wouldnt make sense it'd make him a ufa.
6) uhh yeahh forgot mza haha but who knows if he will be signed, this is just something i'd like to see

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byf just teed one up in the slot, clutchhhh goal

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How about instead of arguing that Byfug would take up a roster spot for Weise that both of them are on the team?

With players like Weise, Prust, Cally, and you add a Byfug, that's a tough grinding team.

I still think a line of Prust-Anisimov-Byfug would be a sick physical 3rd line and then Byfug could get top PP time.

Let Gabby and friends do all the finesse stuff.

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How about instead of arguing that Byfug would take up a roster spot for Weise that both of them are on the team?

With players like Weise, Prust, Cally, and you add a Byfug, that's a tough grinding team.

I still think a line of Prust-Anisimov-Byfug would be a sick physical 3rd line and then Byfug could get top PP time.

Let Gabby and friends do all the finesse stuff.
3M+ price-tag for Byf is a little hefty is he's playing on our third line. Especially when we're giving up assets for him.

Besides Gabby, who's doing all the finesse stuff?

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3M+ price-tag for Byf is a little hefty is he's playing on our third line. Especially when we're giving up assets for him.

Besides Gabby, who's doing all the finesse stuff?
MDZ

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Finesse stuff? Gabby, maybe Prospal if he's back, ditt for Christensen, MZA, and any combo of Frolov/Stemniak/Lombardi/Kariya/Demitria and dare I say Kovalchuk

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I'd like to see both Byers and Weise in the Rangers lineup next year.

Both have shown they can score at the pro level.

Both are big bodies. Wingers. Young. Cheap. And tough.

If we can get Byfuglien, go for it. Don't over pay, though.

MZA - Christensen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Drury - Callahan
Byfuglien - Anisimov - Weise
Byers - Boyle - Prust

At least the bottom two lines would be a royal pain in the neck to play against.

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I'd like to see both Byers and Weise in the Rangers lineup next year.

Both have shown they can score at the pro level.

Both are big bodies. Wingers. Young. Cheap. And tough.

If we can get Byfuglien, go for it. Don't over pay, though.

MZA - Christensen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Drury - Callahan
Byfuglien - Anisimov - Weise
Byers - Boyle - Prust

At least the bottom two lines would be a royal pain in the neck to play against.
I really like this lineup and bonus points for not having Avery in it. The only thing I'd change is Drury goes down to the 4th line and either Lombardi/Frolov/Stempniak or Demitria or even Kariya for one year get added as a top 6 player.

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I'd like to see both Byers and Weise in the Rangers lineup next year.

Both have shown they can score at the pro level.

Both are big bodies. Wingers. Young. Cheap. And tough.

If we can get Byfuglien, go for it. Don't over pay, though.

MZA - Christensen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Drury - Callahan
Byfuglien - Anisimov - Weise
Byers - Boyle - Prust

At least the bottom two lines would be a royal pain in the neck to play against.

I would LOVE to see both Byers and Weise on the Rangers next season. Both play with a lot of heart and go to the dirty areas, something lower line players should do.

I dont agree with acquiring Byfuglien though. He is making too much money for a player scoring 30-40 points. I know he can be a physical presence but I wouldnt move much for him. Also, MZA on the 1st line may be a bit wishful thinking.

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I want a C, Sharp is a good one. A top C no, he can play the wing yea but whatever he is one of the best options and it wont cost a forturne likely

In my perfect world 2nd, Gilroy, Byers.........reality likely Sanguinetti

They may sign Demitra instead of Prospal given the Gabs history

Demitra, Sharp, Gaborik
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Callahan
Avery, Christiensen, Drury
Prust, Boyle, Weise or MZA
Shelley

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I'd like to see both Byers and Weise in the Rangers lineup next year.

Both have shown they can score at the pro level.

Both are big bodies. Wingers. Young. Cheap. And tough.

If we can get Byfuglien, go for it. Don't over pay, though.

MZA - Christensen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Drury - Callahan
Byfuglien - Anisimov - Weise
Byers - Boyle - Prust

At least the bottom two lines would be a royal pain in the neck to play against.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you just can't pencil MZA into the top line. You just can't.


No Avery?

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I want a C, Sharp is a good one. A top C no, he can play the wing yea but whatever he is one of the best options and it wont cost a forturne likely

In my perfect world 2nd, Gilroy, Byers.........reality likely Sanguinetti

They may sign Demitra instead of Prospal given the Gabs history

Demitra, Sharp, Gaborik
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Callahan
Avery, Christiensen, Drury
Prust, Boyle, Weise or MZA
Shelley
Sanguinetti was horrendous in AHL when I saw him ,,, No way in hell the Hawks take him.

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Sanguinetti was horrendous in AHL when I saw him ,,, No way in hell the Hawks take him.
Then you saw a bad game. No way in hell do I move Sanguinetti for Sharp who is about 30 and not a #1 center.

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Then you saw a bad game. No way in hell do I move Sanguinetti for Sharp who is about 30 and not a #1 center.
Sangs did fine last year, he got much better defensively. I'm hoping since he knows what to expect from a Torts training camp that he comes in and kicks you know what and can earn a 3rd pair role. He actually plays pretty physical for an offensive minded guy thanks to JJ Daigneault.

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I still think Versteeg should be the target. He's versatile enough to play almost anywhere in the top-9 and has more upside than people seem to be willing to give him credit for.

I think he'll crack the 30 goal mark within the next two years. 53 points last year and followed it up with a pretty solid sophomore campaign. I'd imagine he'd be the cheapest of the 3 to acquire.

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I still think Versteeg should be the target. He's versatile enough to play almost anywhere in the top-9 and has more upside than people seem to be willing to give him credit for.

I think he'll crack the 30 goal mark within the next two years. 53 points last year and followed it up with a pretty solid sophomore campaign. I'd imagine he'd be the cheapest of the 3 to acquire.
Versteeg actually played about half of Bolland's time hurt at C.

He was solid , Nothing special but he did play C this year

He can play either wing great and if needed can be a serviceable C when injuries occur

I think you are wrong on value though. I think Byfuglien will be cheapest one

Steeger I think will end up in Pittsburgh for there 1st rounder. I dont think the Pens can continue to try and plug in guys like Fedetnoko in there top 6 and get away with it. It hurt them this year

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Sanguinetti was horrendous in AHL when I saw him ,,, No way in hell the Hawks take him.
Must have seen an off game. He's a good player and will be a very good pro.

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I still think Versteeg should be the target. He's versatile enough to play almost anywhere in the top-9 and has more upside than people seem to be willing to give him credit for.

I think he'll crack the 30 goal mark within the next two years. 53 points last year and followed it up with a pretty solid sophomore campaign. I'd imagine he'd be the cheapest of the 3 to acquire.
I would love to see Versteeg on the Rangers.

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