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True or False: The Salary Cap will bring the Leafs closer to the cup.

View Poll Results: A salary cap will bring Toronto closer to the Stanley cup
Yes 6 10.00%
I never though of that.. Maybe it works 7 11.67%
No 47 78.33%
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03-08-2005, 08:52 AM
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The other thing about the cap is you have to remember that no matter what the ceiling is, we will still be at the very top of the scale. A lot of teams won't be.
Then you must think Bettman is a liar, the cap is a magnet and every team will be at the cap. Right Bettman Jimmy Jones followers?

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PepNCheese: From the proposed CBA's we've seen so far, from both sides, the UFA age only went down 1 maybe 2 years, its not like guys like Rick Nash will becoming UFA's at the age of 25, if ever.

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Yep, have a great history in that regard, eh?

Teachers will be happy.
They must be sorely ticked off at Tannenbaum then.

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PepNCheese: From the proposed CBA's we've seen so far, from both sides, the UFA age only went down 1 maybe 2 years, its not like guys like Rick Nash will becoming UFA's at the age of 25, if ever.
They were willing to go to 28. That's what I think it will end up being.

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They must be sorely ticked off at Tannenbaum then.
I think they are more ticked at Bettman, Tannenbaum is not isolated from the largest investor in the company.

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I think they are more ticked at Bettman, Tannenbaum is not isolated from the largest investor in the company.
Well, he seemed to be going against the Teachers' plan to make huge profits which would make them happy as you say by telling the other owners that he wanted to make a deal.

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By putting the focus at the right place, maybe.

But whats up with the other ridiculous speculation? They couldnt get it done with a free market, how can they get it done with tricking the system with Cayman money? This is one of the most hilarious thread I've seen in a while... Unable to win a cup in a fair way, Leafs fans wants to implement a racket to rob it...

Come on guys, if you are that proud of the Leafs tradition, get discussion going talking of how you could build a winning team with the right mix of speed, skill and grits instead of talking of a racket to get there. Wouldnt that be much much better?

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By putting the focus at the right place, maybe.

But whats up with the other ridiculous speculation? They couldnt get it done with a free market, how can they get it done with tricking the system with Cayman money? This is one of the most hilarious thread I've seen in a while... Unable to win a cup in a fair way, Leafs fans wants to implement a racket to rob it...

Come on guys, if you are that proud of the Leafs tradition, get discussion going talking of how you could build a winning team with the right mix of speed, skill and grits instead of talking of a racket to get there. Wouldnt that be much much better?
You have to spend money to make money.

A cup win is the Bonus that the Fans get in this profit sharing of their money to make it all happen ...

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By putting the focus at the right place, maybe.

But whats up with the other ridiculous speculation? They couldnt get it done with a free market, how can they get it done with tricking the system with Cayman money? This is one of the most hilarious thread I've seen in a while... Unable to win a cup in a fair way, Leafs fans wants to implement a racket to rob it...

Come on guys, if you are that proud of the Leafs tradition, get discussion going talking of how you could build a winning team with the right mix of speed, skill and grits instead of talking of a racket to get there. Wouldnt that be much much better?
Kind of like when the Habs used to get the first picks out of Quebec ... that scheme seemed to work didn't it?

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Kind of like when the Habs used to get the first picks out of Quebec ... that scheme seemed to work didn't it?
I'll quote a post for you on a Habs board.

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Time and time again, I've heard some Leafs and Bruins fans allege that Montreal's overall historical success is tainted. Their complaint being, the Canadiens had an exclusive monopoly on French-Canadian players from Quebec. This theory is somewhat correct and also very flawed.

Prior to 1963, all NHL teams operated sponsored junior clubs. There was no draft. Young players were signed during their teens and assigned to specific junior teams. First come, first served. The Amateur Draft (predecessor to today's Entry Draft) began in 1963 and that put an end to the previous system.

Granted, the Canadiens did have an OPTION to make these CULTURAL SELECTIONS. If they decided to utilize this option. Montreal would immediately FORFEIT their own first and second round picks. They could, however, acquire someone elses first round pick through a trade.

What many people don't realize is, out of the SEVEN drafts (1963-69) this unique rule existed. Montreal only exercised it TWICE. That being in 1968 (Michel Plasse/Roger Belisle) and 1969 (Rejean Houle/Marc Tardif).

During the 1950's and 1960's there were numerous French-Canadians who did NOT go through Montreal's impressive system. Instead, they were recruited by the other NHL clubs. This list includes Hall of Famers like Bernie Parent, Jean Ratelle, Rod Gilbert, Pierre Pilote and Marcel Pronovost.

Other notable French-Canadians, from this era, that DIDN'T start their career with Montreal were Gilles Villemure, Jean Pronovost, Gilles "Captain Crunch" Marotte, Serge Bernier and Don Marcotte.

So, the next time some misguided and jealous Canadiens basher brings up this subject. Tell them to do their homework before they open their mouth.
What did you say, again ?

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I'll quote a post for you on a Habs board.



What did you say, again ?
Since Montreal was able to get the rights to most of the Quebec based junior players while they were in their teens because weren't liable to leave the province to a place where they weren't able to speak the language and were too young to leave home for the most part, they had the advantage there because they didn't have to share with any of the rest of the Original Six. With a few exceptions all the best players in Quebec ended up being in the Habs' organization.

Ontario was shared among the other five and there were only a few players coming out of Western Canada at the time.

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