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05-16-2010, 04:27 PM
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Penguins Should Move Malkin

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A few sources are once again suggesting the Penguins should move Malkin, to make more cap space available, and to increase forward depth.

Anyone think this might possibly happen? I can't imagine Shero moving Malkin or Crosby unless it was absolutely necessary, but the Penguins are getting into dangerous salary cap troubles, and their wingers aren't exactly top-notch.

I don't think even if Malkin were to be moved, that the Rangers could possibly make a good offer for him. The only thing I could imagine the Rangers giving for Malkin would be like...

Dubinsky + (Staal or DZ) + 2011 1st + Grachev

Something of that nature. And even then, I don't know if the Penguins would prefer quality forwards to make yet another stab at the cup, or prospects to ensure more chances in the next few years.

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Won't happen, forget about it.

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Dubinsky won't be enough, Pittsburgh will want a legit first line winger to play with Crosby.

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A few sources are once again suggesting the Penguins should move Malkin, to make more cap space available, and to increase forward depth.

Anyone think this might possibly happen? I can't imagine Shero moving Malkin or Crosby unless it was absolutely necessary, but the Penguins are getting into dangerous salary cap troubles, and their wingers aren't exactly top-notch.

I don't think even if Malkin were to be moved, that the Rangers could possibly make a good offer for him. The only thing I could imagine the Rangers giving for Malkin would be like...

Dubinsky + (Staal or DZ) + 2011 1st + Grachev

Something of that nature. And even then, I don't know if the Penguins would prefer quality forwards to make yet another stab at the cup, or prospects to ensure more chances in the next few years.
Most Rangers fans would not want to give up what it would take to land a player that has 143 goals with 389 points in 309 games, is turning just 24, and has already won the Conn Smythe, Art Ross, and Calder trophies.

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1. They are not moving Malkin. He's one year removed from a Conn Smyth trophy for crying out loud
2. In the world would they trade him within the conference? Would you do that if you were the Penguins?

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Would never happen, and even if it did, they'd ship him to the west before they ever considered a EC team, let alone a Atlantic division club.

Plus, you'd be talking Lindros level of return, completely asinine to make a deal like that in a cap-era. It would cripple the franchise, even if it meant picking up a world class player.

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Most Rangers fans would not want to give up what it would take to land a player that has 143 goals with 389 points in 309 games, is turning just 24, and has already won the Conn Smythe, Art Ross, and Calder trophies.
all good stats but for some reason i'm not crazy about him at all.

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The Rangers traded a young Kovalev to Pittsburgh 15 years ago; it's their turn to give us a young Russian

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A few sources are once again suggesting the Penguins should move Malkin, to make more cap space available, and to increase forward depth.

Anyone think this might possibly happen? I can't imagine Shero moving Malkin or Crosby unless it was absolutely necessary, but the Penguins are getting into dangerous salary cap troubles, and their wingers aren't exactly top-notch.

I don't think even if Malkin were to be moved, that the Rangers could possibly make a good offer for him. The only thing I could imagine the Rangers giving for Malkin would be like...

Dubinsky + (Staal or DZ) + 2011 1st + Grachev

Something of that nature. And even then, I don't know if the Penguins would prefer quality forwards to make yet another stab at the cup, or prospects to ensure more chances in the next few years.
Do you see the irony here?

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Malkin may be moved. I doubt if he is coming here.

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I don't think it will happen either.....but that doesn't mean I haven't thought about it. Seeing Malkin on Broadway would be awesome. Gabby on his wing would be sick.

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all good stats but for some reason i'm not crazy about him at all.
Same. I honestly don't like it when people put Malkin in the same class as Crosby and Ovechkin, in spite of his accomplishments. Too many nights, Malkin is pretty much invisible.

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I don't think it will happen either.....but that doesn't mean I haven't thought about it. Seeing Malkin on Broadway would be awesome. Gabby on his wing would be sick.
They'd demand Gaborik to start... trades like this usually mean 2 15+ minute guys, 2 top prospects, 2 top picks and a meaningless depth guy...

From us, they'd expect Gaborik, Dubinsky, Grachev/Werek/Kreider/MDZ/McDonagh/Anisimov...

I wouldn't do it because it's too much that is integral to give up. And that isn't even among the top 10 deals they could get... if the tables were turned, I'd not give up Malkin for that return.

I have a feeling a lot of families will be changing addresses on draft day. Unfortunately, NY probably won't be involved in any of the legit trades.

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of course if pittsburgh could develop some quality players outside of lottery picks they wouldn't be in this situation. Yes they have drafted some nice talent outside the first round, but management seems to have shyte it all away.

Ryan Malone would have been nice to keep, Colby Armstrong too. But beyond that, the penguins haven't really had any success drafting wingers.

Centers and Defensemen they have done an adequate job. And the aforementioned lottery picks ...

gee you think phil kessel would have been a nice fit in steel town ?

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Trading Malkin could only make the Penguins worse. You don't find players like him very often. I know they want depth, but at the cost of Malkin? I'm a bit confused.

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Trading Malkin could only make the Penguins worse. You don't find players like him very often. I know they want depth, but at the cost of Malkin? I'm a bit confused.

Obviously not happening but:

Kane + Versteeg + 1st/2nd for Malkin

for example.

Sharp - Malkin - Byfuglien
Ladd - Toews - Hossa
Brouwer - Bolland - Skille

Kunitz - Crosby - Kane
Versteeg - Staal - Dupuis
Cooke - Talbot - Kennedy

I think makes both better. Especially since I think Malkin plays his best hockey when Sid is hurt or isn't scoring, so I'm inclined to believe he'd thrive on his own team.

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how many teams fit all these descriptions

1) can take on a 8.7 mill contract
2) have the assets to trade back - cheap experienced elite wingers
3) outside the division because Pittsburgh will not trade a potential MVP to a division rival.
4) biggest need is a first line center

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how many teams fit all these descriptions

1) can take on a 8.7 mill contract
2) have the assets to trade back - cheap experienced elite wingers
3) outside the division because Pittsburgh will not trade a potential MVP to a division rival.
4) biggest need is a first line center
Phoenix.

Wolski + Boedker + Yandle for Malkin is a solid basis for a deal I think.

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pretty sure they would move Staal's 4mm cap hit before Malkin's. Gonchar is a goner, theres 5mm right there, ponikarovsky, fedetenko, and guerin make up another 6mm. Thats 11mm they have to spend to get Gonchar a replacement and add some winger-support. I think they have more than enough caproom as currently assembled, and would move Staal well before Malkin.

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Don't really see how this helps the Pens more then it hurts them. Some team would end up outbidding the Rangers. They would probably be looking for an elite winger and a good young defensemen for starters.

Not happening.

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I love Malkin & would love him on the Rangers but I can't see the Pens dealing him. That would be a panic move that they don't need to make right now or in the near future. I did see a thread that was discussing the Flames Jerome Ignila said he would consider a trade if it was right for him & his family. I could see The Pens making a move for him & they don't have to deal malkin.

If this Ignlia thing is true I hope we could get him over here some how.

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If this Ignlia thing is true I hope we could get him over here some how.
That'd be nice since we missed out on Heatley last off season but who would Calgary want?

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IF this were to happen the return would be something along these lines:

Grachev, Kreider, 2010 1st + 2nd, 2011 1st.

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You know its summer time when Ranger fans think of new methods of taking the short road in building a team.

Accept it folks, for us to make any kind of splash we need to have sunk for a couple of seasons. And for the "well look at Montreal" crowd, you could fiddle together a random group of players like they did 100 times and not see the conference finals once. Don't bank on it.

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