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05-17-2010, 09:15 PM
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Ushl Draft Week

Just wanted to remind everyone that the USHL drafts are this week.

Futures draft tomorrow [6 rounds 1994's]...full draft Wednesday and each team drafts according to how many spots they need to have a full camp minus affiliated and protected players. This draft is open to players with birth dates ranging from 1990 to 1995. Online @ www.ushldraft.com


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Just to be clear.
The only things that USHL teams can offer players to report is.........
Transport to and from games, equipment and billeting. Anything else like education expenses or a stipend for walking around $ renders the player ineligible?
All NCAA commitments before the players last year of High School (18 years old) are verbal only


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Anything else like education expenses or a stipend for walking around $ renders the player ineligible?
All NCAA commitments before the players last year of High School (18 years old) are verbal only
If they are paid to play they are NCAA ineligible.

Define "education expenses". HS students go to local schools.

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If they are paid to play they are NCAA ineligible.

Define "education expenses". HS students go to local schools.
Can USHL teams subsidize or pay for any education expenses or are they the responsibity of the player. Say after High School can a USHL team cover any of the players costs in taking University/College courses?
Could a team pay for tuition, books plus at a post High School institution and the player keep NCAA eligibility?


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can a ushl team offer to fly a canadian player down for a tryout and will that affect his ncaa elegibilty?

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can a ushl team offer to fly a canadian player down for a tryout and will that affect his ncaa elegibilty?
I believe the player would pay his way to a tryout...I don't believe teams can pay for a flight or other travel expenses

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Can USHL teams subsidize or pay for any education expenses or are they the responsibity of the player. Say after High School can a USHL team cover any of the players costs in taking University/College courses?
Could a team pay for tuition, books plus at a post High School institution and the player keep NCAA eligibility?
I don't think players go to a community college or anything like that because it can affect how many years he can play college hockey. I remember reading an Air Force player took too many classes while still in junior hockey and when he reached Air Force as a "freshman," the NCAA considered him a "junior."

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According to NCAA bylaw 14.2.1 - the five-year rule - once someone takes enough classes to be considered a "full-time" student, he has five calendar years in which to complete his four seasons of participation. By taking enough classes to be considered full time at West Valley, Wright started his NCAA eligibility clock.
That is from the story on the Air Force player. http://www.gazette.com/sports/wright...ckey-ncaa.html

I will double check if players do take a class or two a year though as I know someone who played in the league.

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It's not too many classes. It's any classes at all. Your eligibility clock begins when you first enroll at a University, College, or Junior/Community/City College.

There are a few slight exceptions but those are so few and far between it's not worth getting into.

What happened to the player mentioned above, IIRC, is that he played 2 years of junior and also took classes at a community college. He was a junior when he got the the university. He got screwed as I remember he was told it was ok by someone it wouldn't effect his eligibility.

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The NCAA has a "five-year clock" that begins when you enroll in classes, and you have five years from that date to complete your eligibility. So if you take college classes while playing junior, do note that might start the NCAA's "clock."

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The NCAA has a "five-year clock" that begins when you enroll in classes, and you have five years from that date to complete your eligibility. So if you take college classes while playing junior, do note that might start the NCAA's "clock."
Thank-you, I'm only asking questions since I don't know.
The USHL is a Jr league not a Midget league. So there's plenty of players aged 19 and 20 that have already graduated High School. Do they just put thier education on hold waiting to be picked up by an NCAA school? What about those 19/20 year olds that have given up on the NCAA dream do teams help them out in any way to prepare for life after hockey?

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A) Do they just put thier education on hold waiting to be picked up by an NCAA school? b) What about those 19/20 year olds that have given up on the NCAA dream do teams help them out in any way to prepare for life after hockey?
A) Most post HS USHL players do put their education on hold and to maintain 4 years of eligibility, a prospective student-athlete may not be enrolled full time in ANY post HS institution regardless of whether or not it has a NCAA affiliation.

B) Not really. But most post HS USHL players have day jobs.

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A) Most post HS USHL players do put their education on hold and to maintain 4 years of eligibility, a prospective student-athlete may not be enrolled full time in ANY post HS institution regardless of whether or not it has a NCAA affiliation.

B) Not really. But most post HS USHL players have day jobs.
Would a Canadian Jr A (not Major Jr) player with NCAA aspirations be held to the same standard?
If he was enrolled in a Canadian Uni, would he still have to sit out a year as well as per the NCAA/CIS transfer agreement even if the school had no hockey programme?
To be clear.............
Only verbal comittments to NCAA can be given before the players graduating year of HS, and even if a NLOI is signed in that year the player basically has to stop his education untill he joins that school?
Thank-you for your replies.


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A) Would a Canadian Jr A (not Major Jr) player with NCAA aspirations be held to the same standard?
Of course.

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If he was enrolled in a Canadian Uni, would he still have to sit out a year as well as per the NCAA/CIS transfer agreement even if the school had no hockey programme?
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To be clear.............

Only verbal comittments to NCAA can be given before the players graduating year of HS, and even if a NLOI is signed in that year the player basically has to stop his education untill he joins that school?
Thank-you for your replies.
Yes. And you're welcome.

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It's not too many classes. It's any classes at all. Your eligibility clock begins when you first enroll at a University, College, or Junior/Community/City College.

There are a few slight exceptions but those are so few and far between it's not worth getting into.

What happened to the player mentioned above, IIRC, is that he played 2 years of junior and also took classes at a community college. He was a junior when he got the the university. He got screwed as I remember he was told it was ok by someone it wouldn't effect his eligibility.
Are you sure on this, it says "full-time" which at my school means 12+ units (~4 classes). Also I thought I heard through the grapevine that as long as you only took a few classes at CC's you would retain eligibility(2 or less a semester/quarter). I am not 100% sure so just wondering if you or anyone else had any more input....

Also what if your in high school and you took a class at a CC for units before you got drafted by USHL/NAHL would that harm your eligibility?

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Yes. And you're welcome.
Sorry to be a pain, looking to be informed.
Do the same rules apply to Div III? The only thing I know about Div III is that no sports scholarships are allowed.

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Sorry to be a pain, looking to be informed.
Do the same rules apply to Div III? The only thing I know about Div III is that no sports scholarships are allowed.
Yes. NCAA eligibility rules are the same across all divisions.

One can take college or "dual-credit" classes in high school and those are still considered high school courses by the NCAA. It's when you're enrolled as a student in a college that it changes.

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Yes. NCAA eligibility rules are the same across all divisions.

One can take college or "dual-credit" classes in high school and those are still considered high school courses by the NCAA. It's when you're enrolled as a student in a college that it changes.
So the only things a USHL club can pay for so the player can keep NCAA eligibility is.....
Transport to and from games, equipment and billeting.
Anything else is contrary to NCAA rules. Have I missed anything besides our discussion about education after HS.

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Not sure what the USHL is trying to do? Taking younger kids, and starting them towards a D1 later. 5 95's drafted in entry, and 89 getting commits??

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