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02-24-2005, 01:13 PM
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bondra of 90's...feedback

hey guys. i was just wondering if i can get a feedback on bondra's play in his prime. I'm his big fan since 87-88 season. he was the most favorite player for most fans of his team in slovakia already in his teens. however didn't see him playing in 90's.

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I have 3 videos of him from the 90's. Wait a sec. Ill put them up somewhere.

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http://rapidshare.de/files-en/400076/bondra1.avi.html
http://rapidshare.de/files-en/400107/bondra3.avi.html

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Another one: http://rapidshare.de/files/696407/bondra2.avi.html

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If I remember correctly the most impressive thing was that from 1993 to 1995 only one player in the whole league outscored Bondra. Jaromir Jagr. Yet Bondra got no press at all while Jagr won the awards and accolades (and big, fat contracts)

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Bondra was a good player in the 90s. Once had four goals in a game against Tampa in 1994. And if I'm not mistaken they were all in the same period. But anyways, Bondra was just flat out a Bona fide sniper! He had blinding speed and was always a 50 goal threat every year. If he hadnt of played for Washignton then maybe he would have gotten more attention.

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Bondra was a great goal-scorer in the 90's. He was a joy to watch with a good shot and great speed.

Top 20 goal-scorers from 89/90 to 98/99:

Name GP G
Brett Hull 713 512
Luc Robitaille 734 373
Brendan Shanahan 736 365
Steve Yzerman 743 363
Theo Fleury 770 360
Joe Sakic 722 352
Pierre Turgeon 721 349
Jaromir Jagr 662 345
Jeremy Roenick 733 335
Mark Recchi 766 332
Dave Andreychuk 732 330
Alexander Mogilny 646 329
Joe Nieuwendyk 674 318
Peter Bondra 610 316
Mario Lemieux 377 313
Teemu Selanne 485 313
Mike Modano 710 311
Pat Verbeek 762 308
Mike Gartner 661 304
Kevin Stevens 709 298

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hey guys. i was just wondering if i can get a feedback on bondra's play in his prime. I'm his big fan since 87-88 season. he was the most favorite player for most fans of his team in slovakia already in his teens. however didn't see him playing in 90's.
Bondra was greased lightning.Very dangerous. Kept defensemen cheating back and less pinching just by being on the ice.

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Bondra may be the best player I've ever seen on a breakaway coming in one on one on a goalie.

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One of the best Goal Scorer of the last 15 years.

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i know that he plays right point on powerplay in last couple of years. what wah his defen play in 90's? was he a waiting-on-blue-line-for-a-pass kind of guy? that's basicly what i remeber of him from late 80's

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He was my favorite player in the 90s and I'd still love to have him on my team.

Hockey Outsider's list was interesting, but I'd like to see (but I'm too lazy to make!) a list of goal scorers while Peter was in his goal scoring prime, from 94 to 2002... I wonder how many guys outscored him during that stretch? Probably only Jaromir Jagr.

Edit- heh, yeah, I couldn't resist a quick look at hockeydb... Peter outscored Brett Hull, John Leclair, Teemu Selanne and Pavel Bure easily during that stretch. Jagr had 345 to Peter's 320. Not bad at all.

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was he a waiting-on-blue-line-for-a-pass kind of guy? that's basicly what i remeber of him from late 80's
Not a Selke candidate, but not a cherry picker either. He was never a one-dimensional Pavel Bure-like player.


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He was my favorite player in the 90s and I'd still love to have him on my team.

Hockey Outsider's list was interesting, but I'd like to see (but I'm too lazy to make!) a list of goal scorers while Peter was in his goal scoring prime, from 94 to 2002... I wonder how many guys outscored him during that stretch? Probably only Jaromir Jagr.

Edit- heh, yeah, I couldn't resist a quick look at hockeydb... Peter outscored Brett Hull, John Leclair, Teemu Selanne and Pavel Bure easily during that stretch. Jagr had 345 to Peter's 320. Not bad at all.
Good idea, here are the players with the most goals from 93/94 to 01/02:

Name GP G
Jaromir Jagr 644 377
Peter Bondra 623 344
Keith Tkachuk 625 336
Teemu Selanne 635 332
Brendan Shanahan 676 331
Pavel Bure 515 324
Brett Hull 642 323
John LeClair 622 312
Joe Sakic 639 296
Mats Sundin 690 294
Mike Modano 629 293
Eric Lindros 497 286
Tony Amonte 699 284
Theo Fleury 672 280
Paul Kariya 524 275
Luc Robitaille 648 272
Sergei Fedorov 598 267
Zigmund Palffy 531 265
Alexander Mogilny 575 260
Pierre Turgeon 600 250
Jeremy Roenick 642 250
Alexei Yashin 582 250

During Bondra's prime, only Jagr scored more goals. During the same time period Bondra is 29th in total points.

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great goal scorer, couldn't pass worth a lick.

basically, he's a reverse Adam Oates

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One of the things that impressed me the most was his speed. When he was on a breakaway the camera would have to follow his great speed and it would make me dizzy. You don't see too many players who have a speed burst like he has.

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Freaky-fast skater, in his prime def. one of the top in the league.

Best shot was his one-timer. Leathal, often played point on the Caps' PP and would just bomb away. Agreed with earlier that he was never much of a passer. Liked to carry the puck a lot, and most of his assists would come from rebounds of his shots.

His defense early in his career was...not good...to put it mildly, but he got a bit better at it later on. As said earlier, not a Selke candidate, but wouldn't embarass himself out there.

Unfortunately, he has lost a step, though his one-timer is still nasty. What really is a shame is that, for the longest time, he was the Caps' only offensive threat - shut him down and you beat the Capitals.

And to clear up one common misconception - he didn't play with Oates as his center very much. Pivonka was his pivot of choice, though he also had decent chemistry with Nikolishin. The only time he played with Oates on a regular basis was on the Caps' first power-play unit.

Off the ice, a very nice guy, and a huge fan-favorite. There was much cursing amongst my Caps-fan bretheren when he was traded.

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iirc bondra was nearly traded to the kings 5-7 seasons ago. any southeast division fan will tell you what a terror this guy was. bondra epitomizes what hockey should be. probably the mosy underrated european forward in nhl history.

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Bondra is awesome. He's lost a step but has definitely been one of the most underrated players out there. Easily one of the best pure goal scorers of his generation. He's right up there with Hull and Bure, and imo slightly ahead of Selanne, etc. Yet he's vastly underrated.

His a-to-b speed is crazy, he is (was) like a dragster out there. Combine that with his bomb of a slapper coming down the wing and he was lethal.

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