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05-23-2010, 07:06 PM
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EC, much like MZA, is a skill player, not a 3rd line player.

In the games where Christensen played on Gaborik's line this season, I believe he averaged what would come out to about 53 points over a full season. for 1 mil salary that is a steal.

he's useless on the bottom two lines except as a shootout specialist.

Yeah I agree with that. Matthew Lombardi who I like would probably cost around 3-3.5 million for similar production. It makes a lot of sense to resign Christensen and save some money. Its a good move by the rangers. I'm fine with Dubinsky-Christensen-Gaborik line but the rangers need a 2nd line that can score. Because when the first line didn't score last year they usually lost the game.

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whens the official announcing of the mza signing?

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But anything can happen if you make the playoffs!
We're still in it!

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whens the official announcing of the mza signing?
Hopefully soon... congrats to the Czech Republic, Rozsival and Jagr!

Can't wait to see MZA.


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Do you think only Sanguinetti will defintely be the player who is traded? I feel Gilroy could be traded, they weren't that happy with his play at the end of the year and I feel he has more value than Sanguinetti. We will see I guess, but I think gilroy and a pick could also be trade bait.
Much depends on McDonagh. One may be moved under any circumstances. If Ryan signs both clould be in play. Numbers game.

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Christensen played with a seperated shoulder? what the ****! He should have really sat out. its one thing to play with an injured hand or something but a seperated SHOULDER? You cant even move your damn arm! get off the ice!

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I appreciate what Christensen brought to the team last season. He showed skill, and effort and chemistry. That said I can't believe he is the plan for a #1 center. If thats the case, the Rangers must be planning to spend $$$$ on some other upgrade to the top 6.

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Much depends on McDonagh. One may be moved under any circumstances. If Ryan signs both clould be in play. Numbers game.
Yeah I really hope we sign him, he is the type of d-man this team really needs. I have no clue what sather plans to do, I hope he plans on bringing in Hamhuis or Martin, which signals the end to Redden, but maybe he thinks Mcdonagh can step right in? Who knows, but I want this kid signed, that i know for sure!

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I still think we're in a good heap of trouble of Christensen is our number 1 center come October, although our only other real options would be to overpay for a UFA or put Dubi there.

Tough position.

Might as well put Christensen there and hope to get some good value on a cheap contract Prospal style.

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People really underrate how Christensen brought it every night. Even when he scored no points, he'd at least make his presence felt with scoring chances...which is more than what can be said for most players, even for Gaborik when he was playing hurt down the stretch. I think a lot of people here are reluctant to say he could be a 60 point player with Gaborik simply based on his past.

If it's:
Prospal/Dubi-Christ-Gaborik
MZA-Anisimov-Callahan/Dubi/Prospal/Demitra

It's a rebuilding top 6, that could be decent if our bottom 6 provides secondary scoring. Especially if our Powerplay turns it on with Del Zotto in his second year quarterbacking it...and presuming Sanguinetti is on the roster.


what else do you do? Give Plekanec or Marleau a Gomez contract?

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05-24-2010, 01:43 AM
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People really underrate how Christensen brought it every night. Even when he scored no points, he'd at least make his presence felt with scoring chances...which is more than what can be said for most players, even for Gaborik when he was playing hurt down the stretch. I think a lot of people here are reluctant to say he could be a 60 point player with Gaborik simply based on his past.

If it's:
Prospal/Dubi-Christ-Gaborik
MZA-Anisimov-Callahan/Dubi/Prospal/Demitra

It's a rebuilding top 6, that could be decent if our bottom 6 provides secondary scoring. Especially if our Powerplay turns it on with Del Zotto in his second year quarterbacking it...and presuming Sanguinetti is on the roster.


what else do you do? Give Plekanec or Marleau a Gomez contract?
where did you get demitra from? Isin't he still with the canucks?

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05-24-2010, 01:53 AM
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Right now I see 4 players in the top 6 filled.

Trade/UFA-Christensen-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Trade/UFA-Aasen

Leaves 2 top 6 forwards needed.

I see 4 defenseman definitely on the team, bearing no trades

Staal:Rozsival
MDZ:Girardi

A trade will probably be made. I think Girardi could be dealt for a top 6 forward or a better defenseman, if not kept with a signing of another defenceman.

Add one of these UFA signings into the mix: Gonchar,Michalek, Volchenkov, Seidenberg, Coliacovo, Morrison, Aucoin

Staal-Rozsival
UFA-Girardi/Trade
MDZ-Sangs/Gilroy

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05-24-2010, 02:03 AM
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I appreciate what Christensen brought to the team last season. He showed skill, and effort and chemistry. That said I can't believe he is the plan for a #1 center. If thats the case, the Rangers must be planning to spend $$$$ on some other upgrade to the top 6.
I agree, granted it's a numbers game & there are guys that can be shuffled around, but if we don't make any major moves to shore up our defense & get a legit number one center I'm not feeling too good about going into next season.

I have a feeling Sather will sign him and use him as his we know what we have fall back plan.

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05-24-2010, 09:25 AM
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That's really not true. First, it said separated shoulder, which is not the same thing as a dislocated shoulder and does not need to be set. Second, athletes keep things like that quiet all the time. I've had a separated shoulder twice. It's an easy injury to down play.
very true. I separated my shoulder in the first quarter during a football game in my throwing arm when I was a quarterback in High School. I played till almost the end of the game when the game was out of reach and finally told my coaches why I couldn't really throw well at all. I had a 2nd degree separation.

It hurt like hell, but only when I lifted my arm up to a certain point, or in a certain direction. Otherwise it was just a dull pain that I could live with and didn't affect me much.

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I think we all appreciate the effort that EC brought on a nightly basis and the vast majority of posters want him back.

I think we all understand the lack of viable alternatives when it comes to a #1 center and the financial bind the Rangers are in.

But the thought of EC as our #1 center is frightening. Again, not a knock on him at all. In reality, both AA and Dubinsky have more talent and are better suited to that role. But AA us not ready yet and the growth curve for Dubinsky is checkered with inconsistency. At this point, he seems to be penciled in at the wing.

Sitting here on May 24th, I can't say I feel any great confidence as to the Rangers chances for next year. Trades and UFAs may change the situation, but my lack of optimism stems largely from how weak we are at center.

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05-24-2010, 09:45 AM
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I have no problem with EC. The problem with going out and getting a number 1 center is, your going to pay big bucks for one. And once you get one, what happens if there's no chemistry? (See Gomez and Jagr) Some times you will find a player like EC, that shouldn't be a number 1, but for what ever reason works the best. Just like Dustin Byfuglien in Chicago. (I know hes not a center)

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05-24-2010, 10:12 AM
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But the thought of EC as our #1 center is frightening. Again, not a knock on him at all. In reality, both AA and Dubinsky have more talent and are better suited to that role. But AA us not ready yet and the growth curve for Dubinsky is checkered with inconsistency. At this point, he seems to be penciled in at the wing.

Sitting here on May 24th, I can't say I feel any great confidence as to the Rangers chances for next year. Trades and UFAs may change the situation, but my lack of optimism stems largely from how weak we are at center.
Perhaps EC is a placeholder or fall back plan until a time when, hopefully, AA develops into the better player.

I'm not very optimistic about next year either, but IMO, a revolution this summer doesn't seem very likely. And even if you had the cap space to add a legitimate #1 center to a roster that's otherwise the same as last year, I just don't see how that's enough.

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Christiensen is a 3rd line C folks. Don't try to make him more than he is. He deserves to be on the team but not in a top role

not sure how they are going to do it but they need a top C for Gaborik

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Since we surely aren't contending I'm not sure where all the hesitation is coming from with EC being our top line Center.

Best case scenario he breaks through his shell and starts to really develop into the draft pick he was meant to be with Gaborik on his wing (Haven't we all heard/said that before)

Worst case scenario he doesn't surprise anyone he puts up 40 points and we miss/narrowly avoid the play offs.

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Christensen is fine. He's a stopgap-type player. If he continues to progress, awesome. If not, oh well. Not sure why anyone wouldn't want him back.

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Christensen is fine. He's a stopgap-type player. If he continues to progress, awesome. If not, oh well. Not sure why anyone wouldn't want him back.
Exactly. I would much rather have Christensen on the top-line for a season or 2 over going out and overpaying Marleau to fit a square peg in a round hole for the next 7 years. People, this team is rebuilding.

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Love what EC brings to the table and want him back but the thought he would garner 60 points centering Gaborik is really a stretch.

The thought of him as our de facto #1 center is troubling and frightening. He just doesn't have that skill set. He is a nice 3rd line player who can move up for short stretches to play with more skilled players but he just doesn't have the ability to play there on a consistent basis for an entire season.

Resign him? Absolutely. A valuable support player? Most definitely.
Can the Rangers make the playoffs and be a force to be reckoned with when EC as our top center? No way.

Brings back that debate which has simmered here since the end of the season (doesn't that seem like ages ago?) between those who feel you need a legitimate (that includes me) and those who don't.
Totally agree - look at ECs stats & his play - he is not a first-line center.

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So when is MZA going to sign?!?!?!?!

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Totally agree - look at ECs stats & his play - he is not a first-line center.
Theres a saying about beggars and choosers.

Christensen with 50 points for 1 mil makes much more sense than Marleau with 80 points at 7.5 mil, agree?

I love how people are willing to just release a cheap asset who clicks with Gaborik that has fallen into our laps.

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Totally agree - look at ECs stats & his play - he is not a first-line center.
I don't think anyone is claiming he's a legitimate first line center. But what are our alternatives? Drury? Anisimov? Neither of them fit the bill. Outside options? Can we afford Plekanec? Do we even want him? Marleau is better suited to wing. Lombardi is kind of a wild card.

I'm penciling in Christensen as the top center not because he IS one, but because none of the other choices seem any better.

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