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05-24-2010, 03:25 PM
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I can't envision Christensen's agent trying to squeeze anything more than the QO out of Sather. Give him a chance to set-up a payday next summer with a full season of being given every opportunity to play with Gaborik.

We all know the report on EC. There's certainly potential there and frankly, this team isn't in a position to be giving up on something like that.

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Interesting the jab at Tortorella at the end for singling out Christensen's play as uninspired in the last two games of the season against the Flyers when the guy was playing with a separated shoulder.
Another fine example of Torts making himself look like a colossal d-bag, IMO.

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I thought he singled out Gaborik far worse.

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i think that anyone penciling MZA in as a second liner is setting themself up for disapointment

see: Higgins, Christopher (2009)

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i think that anyone penciling MZA in as a second liner is setting themself up for disapointment

see: Higgins, Christopher (2009)
While I agree that penciling in MZA as a second line winger is premature, there's really no comparison between MZA and Higgins' situations.

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While I agree that penciling in MZA as a second line winger is premature, there's really no comparison between MZA and Higgins' situations.
the siutations are different, but the inflated expectations are very similiar

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the siutations are different, but the inflated expectations are very similiar
mza is a top 6 forward, not a 3rd line grinder. The kid has talent. Expectations are high here but he wont accomplish anything on the 3rd line. See prucha on that.

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He either is or he isn't. If he is a 2nd liner, great, if not, we'll put Callahan there. When people makes lines its for the best case scenario.

In going to assume in the meantime that he may be, and therefore pencil him in there on our best possible lines.

BTW, I feel like we should be hearing the announcement soon, but I dont see it yet.

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mza is a top 6 forward, not a 3rd line grinder. The kid has talent. Expectations are high here but he wont accomplish anything on the 3rd line. See prucha on that.
Prucha is still a good 3rd liner, is MZA the type of guy that can't grind it out and isn't solid defensively?

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05-24-2010, 04:26 PM
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i think that anyone penciling MZA in as a second liner is setting themself up for disapointment

see: Higgins, Christopher (2009)
I'm sorry, but what does Higgins have to do with MZA? They aren't even remotely similar.

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I'm sorry, but what does Higgins have to do with MZA? They aren't even remotely similar.
Yeah, and I doubt any of us have seen enough of MZA to intelligently discuss much of anything - particularly comparisons to Ranger failures of the past.

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I'm sorry, but what does Higgins have to do with MZA? They aren't even remotely similar.
aparently no one else seems to recall the mass amounts of posters jumping the gun and penciling Higgins in on the 1st or 2nd line

im just using him as a very recent example of our fanbase's tendency towards over anticipating the contributions of players they haven't seen much of

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Yeah, and I doubt any of us have seen enough of MZA to intelligently discuss much of anything
and that is my point.....people who are pulling things out of their ass and asuming he will be a 2nd line wing right off the bat are setting themselves up for disapointment

we just dont know anywhere near enough about him....better off not counting on him and being pleasently surprised if he pans out

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Correct me if I am not mistaken, but don;t the Rangers get the 42nd overall if they do not sign McD.

Kabanov at #42?

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Correct me if I am not mistaken, but don;t the Rangers get the 42nd overall if they do not sign McD.

Kabanov at #42?
it wouldnt be until 2011 or 2012 draft.

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Correct me if I am not mistaken, but don;t the Rangers get the 42nd overall if they do not sign McD.

Kabanov at #42?
That's for next year. We still have this whole year to get McD signed.

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aparently no one else seems to recall the mass amounts of posters jumping the gun and penciling Higgins in on the 1st or 2nd line

im just using him as a very recent example of our fanbase's tendency towards over anticipating the contributions of players they haven't seen much of
How was penciling in a 3x 20+ goal scorer on our top two lines jumping the gun? The guy had success in the NHL prior to joining the Rangers, so it's not as if he was some unknown quantity coming over from Europe.

His game went to hell over the last season and a half, but I think the comparison to MZA is a little off-base.

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He have until August 2011 to sign McD, so wouldnt the draft pick compensation be the 42nd pick in 2012?

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How was penciling in a 3x 20+ goal scorer on our top two lines jumping the gun? The guy had success in the NHL prior to joining the Rangers, so it's not as if he was some unknown quantity coming over from Europe.

His game went to hell over the last season and a half, but I think the comparison to MZA is a little off-base.
when the vast majority of people who saw him on a consistant basis said that he is absolutely not a 1st line player

apparently im wording something wrong here, or not getting my point accross for one reason or another

but my point is this...rangers fans expect too much from players they haven't seen

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really happy to see we'll most likely be re-signing Chirstensen...I don't know what his problems were before he got to New York, but he put it together on a consistent basis for us as Gaborik's center and was our best puck distributor once he started playing regularly. I have no problem with him as a stop-gap, top 6 forward...it's a much better option than anything in free agency. He'll put up 60 points as Gaborik's center in a full-season, book it.

Have my reservations with MZA...kind of feel like he's just going to be another fringe 2nd liner better served as a 3rd liner.

I really hope we can get McD under contract.
60 points??? That's insane.

Now I know why players are always destined to failure in NY, the expectations are ridiculous.

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You can't say he's certainly a 50+ point player when that's something he's never come close to doing.
Completely agreed, I can't believe I'm seeing expectations of 50-60 points from Christensen.

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when the vast majority of people who saw him on a consistant basis said that he is absolutely not a 1st line player

apparently im wording something wrong here, or not getting my point accross for one reason or another

but my point is this...rangers fans expect too much from players they haven't seen
So does every fan base, and they do it with there prospect as well. And this happens in all sports. So what does it matter?

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So does every fan base, and they do it with there prospect as well. And this happens in all sports. So what does it matter?
wow...forget it

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it wouldnt be until 2011 or 2012 draft.
I thought we got the comp pick following the expiration of the alloted time frame provided to sign the player.

That would mean we get the pick this year.

need clairification

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I thought we got the comp pick following the expiration of the alloted time frame provided to sign the player.

That would mean we get the pick this year.

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The expiration is next year when McD graduates from college. He was only a junior.

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I thought we got the comp pick following the expiration of the alloted time frame provided to sign the player.

That would mean we get the pick this year.

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Again, we still have a year to sign him.

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