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05-26-2010, 02:56 PM
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Dubinsky-Christensen-Gaborirk
Versteeg-Anisimov-MZA
Avery-Drury-Callahan
Prust-Boyle-Shelley
This would be a very solid line-up. Only if the Rangers could sign one of Hamhuis/Michalek, then this team would do a lot better then this past season:


Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Versteeg - Anisimov - MZA
Avery - Drury - Callahan
Prust - Boyle - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
MDZ - Hamhuis/Michalek
Gilroy - Girardi

Lundqvist
Auld/Hedberg

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This would be a very solid line-up. Only if the Rangers could sign one of Hamhuis/Michalek, then this team would do a lot better then this past season:


Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Versteeg - Anisimov - MZA
Avery - Drury - Callahan
Prust - Boyle - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
MDZ - Hamhuis/Michalek
Gilroy - Girardi

Lundqvist
Auld/Hedberg
Don't get the man crush people have on Versteeg. Just another Ryan Callahan really.

Don't see Versteeg putting up the same number with the Rangers that he has posted in Chicago, however I can envision Callahan posting very similar numbers as Versteeg in Chicago.

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05-26-2010, 03:06 PM
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This would be a very solid line-up. Only if the Rangers could sign one of Hamhuis/Michalek, then this team would do a lot better then this past season:


Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Versteeg - Anisimov - MZA
Avery - Drury - Callahan
Prust - Boyle - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
MDZ - Hamhuis/Michalek
Gilroy - Girardi

Lundqvist
Auld/Hedberg
This is what I would like the roster too look like next year, hopefully we dont have TOO much future for Versteeg, I understand its a trade though. Sangs + a good pick is what we could hope for. I would hate for us to give up huge scoring potential in Kreider or Grachev, or even Stepan (Which I know Chicago probably has their eye on considering their love for UW-Madison prospects)

If we went w/o Versteeg I wouldn't mind though. I wish more Ranger fans had Frolov on their radar this summer.

Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Frolov - Prospal - MZA
Avery - Anisimov - Callahan
Prust - Drury - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
MDZ - Hamhuis/Michalek
Gilroy - Girardi

Lundqvist
Auld/Hedberg

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This would be a very solid line-up. Only if the Rangers could sign one of Hamhuis/Michalek, then this team would do a lot better then this past season:


Dubinsky - Christiansen - Gaborik
Versteeg - Anisimov - MZA
Avery - Drury - Callahan
Prust - Boyle - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
MDZ - Hamhuis/Michalek
Gilroy - Girardi

Lundqvist
Auld/Hedberg
Not the worst line up ive seen. But that team still has trouble scoring goals. The additions of Versteeg and MZA are decent aquisitions but there is no other threat to score goals besides Gaborik.

This team still needs a triggerman at the point. The powerplay is gonna have to be good if our offense is weak.

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05-26-2010, 03:09 PM
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Here's what he has to say about the deal. Norwegian article translated by google.

http://translate.google.com/translat...23&sl=no&tl=en

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Still no word on the terms?

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Here's what he has to say about the deal. Norwegian article translated by google.

http://translate.google.com/translat...23&sl=no&tl=en
Decent piece once you get past the sometimes goofy translation -- "The farmer made Hartford Wolf Pack"

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05-26-2010, 03:17 PM
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Not the worst line up ive seen. But that team still has trouble scoring goals. The additions of Versteeg and MZA are decent aquisitions but there is no other threat to score goals besides Gaborik.

This team still needs a triggerman at the point. The powerplay is gonna have to be good if our offense is weak.
I'd rather add Kovalchuk, but cap wise I don't see how it could work. Unless Sather convinces some GM to trade for Redden, removing his cap over the summer, and not taking much salary back. There is no chance of that happening, though. I'd rather add a player like Versteeg then take a run at Plekanec, Frolov, Zherdev, etc on the UFA market as well.

I did like the proposed trade on here the other day of Ribiero, Niskanen, and Skrastin (or however its spelt) for Giradi, Roszival, and Byers.

It's not the best of line-ups, but it should give the Rangers cap flexability going forward.

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05-26-2010, 03:26 PM
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Still no word on the terms?
Zipay has "reportedly" 2 years 900,000 per.

http://www.newsday.com/blogs/sports/blue-notes-1.811976

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Not to be a stickler, but in the Rangers.com article, it says he has drawn comparisons to MARKUS Naslund and Nicklas Sundstrom.

That's false, the comparisons were to MATS Naslund, not Markus.

I know its a small thing, but Mats was apparently incredible, better then Markus in Markus's prime years.

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Not to be a stickler, but in the Rangers.com article, it says he has drawn comparisons to MARKUS Naslund and Nicklas Sundstrom.

That's false, the comparisons were to MATS Naslund, not Markus.

I know its a small thing, but Mats was apparently incredible, better then Markus in Markus's prime years.
Niklas Sundstrom was a very good player in his own end, I haven't heard too much about that from anyone or seen that in any of the games to compare him to Sundstrom... Maybe they were comparing a specific attribute to Niklas.

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I know its a small thing, but Mats was apparently incredible, better then Markus in Markus's prime years.
Mats was not only immensely talented, but he was also of similar stature to MZA. Though he may have been a bit stockier.

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Not the worst line up ive seen. But that team still has trouble scoring goals. The additions of Versteeg and MZA are decent aquisitions but there is no other threat to score goals besides Gaborik.

This team still needs a triggerman at the point. The powerplay is gonna have to be good if our offense is weak.
demote redden sign kurtis foster! cheap, big and has a bomb from the point, good bottom pairing d-man

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Finally it's official

Welcome to the Blueshirts Mats!

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Martin St. Louis is small too.
One article says five seven; the other five nine - both on Rangers website

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Not to be a stickler, but in the Rangers.com article, it says he has drawn comparisons to MARKUS Naslund and Nicklas Sundstrom.

That's false, the comparisons were to MATS Naslund, not Markus.

I know its a small thing, but Mats was apparently incredible, better then Markus in Markus's prime years.
Markus Näslund was voted league MVP by the players, finnished 2nd overall in scoring et c; something not many players ever can brag about. Markus was actually darn good for a couple of years there.

Mats Näslund was a very good player, but think more like Saku Koivu like then top 3/5/10 in the league. Näslund was a leader on the ice, a classic very smart centericemen type who you in any situation loved to have on the ice, be it to protect a lead or get something going offensively.

From my point -- in terms of style -- MZA reminds me the most of Pat Kane. Maybe Ziggy Palffy is a good comparison too. That mold. Comparing him with Niklas Sundström is like comparing MDZ with Kevin Lowe, I don't see any resemblance.

MZA is extremely good at changing directions. He is very hard to catch. He goes where ever on the ice he can find open ice, he gets open, then when he gets the puck he does something smart with it every time. In that sense he reminds me a lot of Kane.

He also don't have blistering speed nor is he really a great sniper. He is a very good playmaker though and he is very smart.

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Mats was not only immensely talented, but he was also of similar stature to MZA. Though he may have been a bit stockier.
I bet it was fun to see him play, it was before my time, though.

What should we expect from 'Zucco'?

20 goals, 60 points?
30 goals, 70 points?
40 goals, 80 points?

From all the video, granted its video, I have seen, he looks VERY talented. Exciting player.

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Markus Näslund was voted league MVP by the players, finnished 2nd overall in scoring et c; something not many players ever can brag about. Markus was actually darn good for a couple of years there.

Mats Näslund was a very good player, but think more like Saku Koivu like then top 3/5/10 in the league. Näslund was a leader on the ice, a classic very smart centericemen type who you in any situation loved to have on the ice, be it to protect a lead or get something going offensively.

From my point -- in terms of style -- MZA reminds me the most of Pat Kane. Maybe Ziggy Palffy is a good comparison too. That mold. Comparing him with Niklas Sundström is like comparing MDZ with Kevin Lowe, I don't see any resemblance.

MZA is extremely good at changing directions. He is very hard to catch. He goes where ever on the ice he can find open ice, he gets open, then when he gets the puck he does something smart with it every time. In that sense he reminds me a lot of Kane.

He also don't have blistering speed nor is he really a great sniper. He is a very good playmaker though and he is very smart.
When you said that, it clicked and made sense, obviously not saying he's going to be up to Kane's ability but his play is pretty reminiscent of that, good catch.

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I bet it was fun to see him play, it was before my time, though.

What should we expect from 'Zucco'?

20 goals, 60 points?
30 goals, 70 points?
40 goals, 80 points?

From all the video, granted its video, I have seen, he looks VERY talented. Exciting player.
Be happy with 50.

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Dubinsky - Christensen - Gaborik
MZA - Versteeg - Zherdev
Avery - Anisimov - Callahan
Prust - Drury - Shelley

Staal - Roszival
MDZ - Girardi
Mara - Gilroy

Lundqvist
Hedberg


This lineup would make me squeal like a little school girl.


AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Marian Gaborik ($7.500m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / * Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
* Nik Zherdev ($2.800m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m) / Sean Avery ($1.938m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Donald Brashear ($1.400m) / * Erik Christensen ($1.000m)
* Matz Zuccarello Aasen ($0.900m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.822m) / * Jody Shelley ($0.800m)
* Brandon Prust ($0.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Michal Rozsival ($5.000m) / * Marc Staal ($4.000m)
* Daniel Girardi ($2.700m) / Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)
* Paul Mara ($1.500m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / * Johan Hedberg ($1.500m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 21; PAYROLL: $56.355m; CAP ROOM: $0.658m BONUSES: $0.212m


DO IT.

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I bet it was fun to see him play, it was before my time, though.

What should we expect from 'Zucco'?

20 goals, 60 points?
30 goals, 70 points?
40 goals, 80 points?

From all the video, granted its video, I have seen, he looks VERY talented. Exciting player.
I'm going to say if he plays on the top two lines, which he likely will, and get PP time with Gabs:

21G/34A/55P

Which would be great numbers for his first season.

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People want Versteeg's 20 goals for 3 mill and some youth over Frolov's 30 goals for 4 mill, no dealing to acquire him?


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Relative to size Mats Naslund is definitely comparable and that guy was a great great hockey player--a reincarnation of Yvan Cournoyer. I'm not sure I'd say that Markus Naslund was better. Actually they were both great and I appreciate as well what Markus did for us walking away from all that money. That was as classy as it gets.

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People want Versteeg's 20 goals for 3 mill and some youth over Frolov's 30 goals for 4 mill, no dealing to acquire him?
Frolov wants 5M, and has serious work ethic issues.

Since the Lockout:

05-06: 69GP -- 21G, 33A, 54P
06-07: 82GP -- 35G, 36A, 71P
07-08: 71GP -- 23G, 44A, 67P
08-09: 77GP -- 32G, 27A, 59P
09-10: 81GP -- 19G, 32A, 51P
Total: 380GP -- 130G, 172A, 302P

If Frolov would come in for 3.3M-4M, I might do it. For $5M, he can get the **** out of the NHL and go back to Russia.

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Frolov wants 5M, and has serious work ethic issues.

Since the Lockout:

05-06: 69GP -- 21G, 33A, 54P
06-07: 82GP -- 35G, 36A, 71P
07-08: 71GP -- 23G, 44A, 67P
08-09: 77GP -- 32G, 27A, 59P
09-10: 81GP -- 19G, 32A, 51P

If Frolov would come in for 3.3M-4M, I might do it. For $5M, he can get the **** out of the NHL and go back to Russia.
I have asked Kings fans and they have said the work ethic issues are a non issue, something that someone said and stuck because of the Russian thing. Also the reason for his drop in production this year was his 3rd line minutes because the team had some serious depth and some other player had chemistry and caught fire with someone else (Smyth or something and other)

He should not be looking at 5 million, especially after a 19 goal campaign.

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