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05-27-2010, 02:28 PM
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Please tell me you weren't serious. 99% of habs fans don't want to see him 1 more year, and you want to sign him till he's 42?

Top pairing dman? He had the worst +/- on the team!

And yes, he does suck.

Good shot, that we saw maybe once in the playoffs.
Let's make MAB president for life!

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05-27-2010, 02:39 PM
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Let's make MAB president for life!
MAB for captain???

When he retires I can see him being a great coach / GM for the Habs


His shot alone makes him worthy of Norris Trophy consideration

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MAB for captain???

When he retires I can see him being a great coach / GM for the Habs


His shot alone makes him worthy of Norris Trophy consideration
I just threw up in my mouth...

I don't want to see MAB in a Habs uni no more! It's enough! And if management don't understand that than I want them FIRED!


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05-27-2010, 02:57 PM
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Tampa definitely looks like a good fit, but other than their 1st and Malone I don't see a lot of assets that fit. Hedman and Stamkos are pretty much untoucheable, Vinnie is untradeable (NTC plus horrible contract).
Malone + 1st + Smith for Halak + Hamrlik + 4th

For them, Nittymaki was better than Smith who may be able to rebound after doing well in Dallas. They get Halak as their #1 and Hamrlik to give their core a veteran presence. We get a power forward in Malone, their #6 overall and their backup goaltender.

Problem for me is I want to draft Fowler or Gudbranson (who won't be there at #6) and letting Hamrlik go without a defenseman coming back is risky with Markov out til November.

Maybe then deal our #6 and #27 for the #3 or #4 overall?

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05-27-2010, 03:13 PM
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Tampa definitely looks like a good fit, but other than their 1st and Malone I don't see a lot of assets that fit. Hedman and Stamkos are pretty much untoucheable, Vinnie is untradeable (NTC plus horrible contract).
I wonder if they'd be interested in moving Downie. I'd take him in a heartbeat (not one-for-one mind you but as a piece of a larger deal).

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05-27-2010, 03:16 PM
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I wonder if they'd be interested in moving Downie. I'd take him in a heartbeat (not one-for-one mind you but as a piece of a larger deal).
I can't really see this organization trading for a guy with a history like downie's, despite his good numbers.

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05-27-2010, 03:28 PM
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Anyone think trades BASED(as in, add picks/prospects as necessary) on the following can work:

Sergei K

James Sheppard



Andrei K(3.25)

Drew Stafford(1.9)


Sign Armstrong and trade hamrlik:

Stafford-Plek-Cam
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Armstrong-Sheppard-Pyatt
White-Lapierre-Moen

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05-27-2010, 03:43 PM
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Tampa definitely looks like a good fit, but other than their 1st and Malone I don't see a lot of assets that fit. Hedman and Stamkos are pretty much untoucheable, Vinnie is untradeable (NTC plus horrible contract).
He is... To Montreal... For Gomez...

In Montreal, Geoff Molson is gonna sell so many jerseys with his name on, that it will be paid within 5 years....

As a player, he is superior to Gomez

As a marketing tool... It's gigantic.

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He is... To Montreal... For Gomez...

In Montreal, Geoff Molson is gonna sell so many jerseys with his name on, that it will be paid within 5 years....

As a player, he is superior to Gomez

As a marketing tool... It's gigantic.
In 4 years Gomez is off the books so we will have 7.3 million to spend on an impact player (Malkin). While Vinny is with us for another 10 years

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In 4 years Gomez is off the books so we will have 7.3 million to spend on an impact player (Malkin). While Vinny is with us for another 10 years
and those re-curring injuries with lecav are worrisome. No thanks on vinny

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05-27-2010, 04:43 PM
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Anyone think trades BASED(as in, add picks/prospects as necessary) on the following can work:

Sergei K

James Sheppard



Andrei K(3.25)

Drew Stafford(1.9)


Sign Armstrong and trade hamrlik:

Stafford-Plek-Cam
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Armstrong-Sheppard-Pyatt
White-Lapierre-Moen
I think its fair to call Sheppard a bust

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I think it's a drop by 50% actually. So if you start at 10 mil, you can go lowest 5 mil the following year and 2.5 the year after. I'm not 100% sure though, can someone confirm?
I thought there was something about that, too, but at a point in Savard's (confirmed and approved) contract, for example, he goes from 5M one year to 1.5M the next, so...

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You speak as if MAB sucks or something
He does. You might be impressed by his ability to score a few goals against some of the worst teams and penalty killing units in the league, but I'm not. Especially considering everything else you "get" in the MAB package.

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Got bored so made up a next-year line-up


Sign Marleau instead of Pleks
Trade Halak and S.Kostitsyn to St-Louis for Perron and 2nd round pick
Get rid of Harmlik

Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
A.Kostitsyn-Marleau-Cammalleri
Pacioretty-Engqvist-Perron
Moen-Lapierre-White

Price
Desjardins


Didn't feel like messing with the D

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I think its fair to call Sheppard a bust
Like pouliot? If he is a bust, then his value must be low no? 19 pts in rookie year, 24 the year after. Sure, not star #s, but if a cheap, young, 3rd line center can provide us with 30 points and potentially be a steal, why not? He's got size, can play center or wing. Two-way guy, even fights the rare time. I would do it no question. If you manage to develop him properly, he's a steal.

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I thought there was something about that, too, but at a point in Savard's (confirmed and approved) contract, for example, he goes from 5M one year to 1.5M the next, so...
I see that too now. Strange. I thought there was some kind of rule about it.

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I see that too now. Strange. I thought there was some kind of rule about it.
When I look into it deeper, I expect to find something about length of contract and/or after how many contract years it's allowed to happen. Still as surprised as you are, though.

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05-27-2010, 06:08 PM
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Anyone think trades
Andrei K(3.25)

Drew Stafford(1.9)
I like that one. Two young players who found themselves in the dog house and who haven't developed according to plans. Could be a good trade for both teams.

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05-27-2010, 06:13 PM
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Anyone think trades BASED(as in, add picks/prospects as necessary) on the following can work:

Sergei K

James Sheppard



Andrei K(3.25)

Drew Stafford(1.9)


Sign Armstrong and trade hamrlik:

Stafford-Plek-Cam
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Armstrong-Sheppard-Pyatt
White-Lapierre-Moen
Realistically, both of those could work. I believe Sabre fans like the Ak for Stafford one too. We still have 4 small top 6 forwards.

However, trading Hamrlik might not be so easy.

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05-27-2010, 06:18 PM
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Realistically, both of those could work. I believe Sabre fans like the Ak for Stafford one too. We still have 4 small top 6 forwards.

However, trading Hamrlik might not be so easy.
Okay, i'll switch it up then.

Let plek go, sign Marleau.

Stafford-Marleau-Cam
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Pacioretty-Sheppard-Pyatt
White-Lapierre-Moen

Young line-up, but bigger center, sheppard and lapierre are also 6'2. Stafford is 6'2, pouliot, 6'3, pacioretty 6'2, guys like white and moen can make a claim for occasional top 6(like moen did in playoffs to shake things up) as well. Just a thought.

It's obviously all hypothetical.

As for hamrlik part, maybe we'll take a salary back(smaller of course), and just buy him out, or put him in minors or let him play on 3rd line in pacioretty's spot.

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is drew stafford is better than AK ? I don't know him.....He is more physical ?

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is drew stafford is better than AK ? I don't know him.....He is more physical ?
59 hits in 71 games for stafford.
102 hits in 59 for andrei k.

So obviously andrei is more physical but it was more of a "if we really want to part with andrei" we could get stafford+ i think.

Or we could go for horton, who is signed long term at 4 mil. Don't know if that will work though.

personally, i'd like a guy like brendan morrow on top line who has a cap hit of 4.1 mil, but don't think its likely.

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It might sound crazy , but I'll definitely try to get Richards ( Brad).Dallas have financial probleme and they are rebuilding. Yes I know what his cap hit is . 7,8 $M , but he have only 1 years left to his contract . If we are able to fit his contract , then I will give a long term contract ( something around 5 $M/ years ) . I take Richards before plekanec anytime.

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It might sound crazy , but I'll definitely try to get Richards ( Brad).Dallas have financial probleme and they are rebuilding. Yes I know what his cap hit is . 7,8 $M , but he have only 1 years left to his contract . If we are able to fit his contract , then I will give a long term contract ( something around 5 $M/ years ) . I take Richards before plekanec anytime.
Agreed. That's one of the insane contracts that I would have welcomed instead of Gomez for sure.

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It might sound crazy , but I'll definitely try to get Richards ( Brad).Dallas have financial probleme and they are rebuilding. Yes I know what his cap hit is . 7,8 $M , but he have only 1 years left to his contract . If we are able to fit his contract , then I will give a long term contract ( something around 5 $M/ years ) . I take Richards before plekanec anytime.
With one year left on his deal, if Dallas swung us an offer that would land Richards here in Montreal, I'd do it, as long as he could fit under the cap with the players we need re-signed.

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It might sound crazy , but I'll definitely try to get Richards ( Brad).Dallas have financial probleme and they are rebuilding. Yes I know what his cap hit is . 7,8 $M , but he have only 1 years left to his contract . If we are able to fit his contract , then I will give a long term contract ( something around 5 $M/ years ) . I take Richards before plekanec anytime.
Does it worth trading for him? We need keep our top 6 or replace the ones we're giving away, AND we'll lose Plekanec for nothing.

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