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05-18-2010, 01:56 PM
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Letting Tjanqvist go was a flaw of the management group at the time. We all wondered who was going to win face-offs and kill penalties heading into the season, and our worst fears were soon realized. He'd fit our pack mentality to a T to be sure, but I think he's a bit redundant with Fiddler now on the team. TQ hasn't gotten any younger, and I assume he's content with playing out the stretch overseas.

Lisin would be stapled to the bench or in the press box under Tippett. There's no way he'd see the ice. Korpi is getting a bit of a rough ride by some members here, and undeservingly so, IMO. He's a low-cost, durable and effective player for the role he provides.

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05-20-2010, 12:46 PM
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I just watched Kopikoski against the Czechs he was Finlands best player in every situation and was doing some pretty dominant things on the ice.

If this Korpikoski showed up in the NHL and did what he did today consistently he'd be a hell of a two-way player. Good goaltending was the only thing that kept him off the scoreboard today.

It was Jagr carries the play one way then Korpikoski takes it the other. Just an awesome game

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05-20-2010, 01:22 PM
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I was surprised that they didn't use Korpi in the shootout. That's probably why they lost.

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Imagine a speed line of Boeddker, Lombardi and Korpikowski. Who would opposing teams put their checking lines on, the Speed Line or the first line of Doan, Turris and Upshall?

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05-20-2010, 03:31 PM
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Imagine a speed line of Boeddker, Lombardi and Korpikowski.
I'm trying to picture it, and it's not pretty. 90% of that line's shots would miss the net, the remaining 10% would come from bad angles and would be easily blocked. Noone crashing the net. One of the easiest top lines to defend against in the NHL. They'd make any goalie look good.

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05-20-2010, 04:00 PM
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So how was he? I thought he'd bring more offense. At least he brought the strong defensive game and great speed.
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The moment he can play on the ice with confidence that he is better than many of players in the NHL along with a bit of cockiness, he's going to be a damn fine player.

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The moment he can play on the ice with confidence that he is better than many of players in the NHL along with a bit of cockiness, he's going to be a damn fine player.
Are we talking about Korpikoski?
or Freddy Sjostrom?
or Jeff Taffe?
or <insert over-rated Coyotes role-player of your choice>?

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05-20-2010, 08:09 PM
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Are we talking about Korpikoski?
or Freddy Sjostrom?
or Jeff Taffe?
or <insert over-rated Coyotes role-player of your choice>?
Why is Korpikoski overrated? Is it because he was traded for Lisin? Taffe was supposed to be a scorer, but it never materialized at the Pro level. Sjostrom never had much offense at any level. Coyotes fans that thought otherwise were kidding themselves. korpikoski grew so much through out the year. He started off fighting for a 4th line spot. He had no identity to a team he was traded for, but eventually settled into a PK services and did a good job of that. At the end of the season, he played his way into Pruchas spot for a couple of game. Our most consistent line the entire season. I feel like he deserves at least a couple of more years to see if he can develop his O game. Tippett came from Dallas. He knows how to handle his Fins.

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05-20-2010, 08:18 PM
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A smarter, more polished, better PKing Freddy Sjostrom is not the worst thing in the world.

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Thought he'd score more, but hes fast!
And a great PKer, like his D

And all the shootout goals

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Why is Korpikoski overrated? Is it because he was traded for Lisin? Taffe was supposed to be a scorer, but it never materialized at the Pro level. Sjostrom never had much offense at any level. Coyotes fans that thought otherwise were kidding themselves. korpikoski grew so much through out the year. He started off fighting for a 4th line spot. He had no identity to a team he was traded for, but eventually settled into a PK services and did a good job of that. At the end of the season, he played his way into Pruchas spot for a couple of game. Our most consistent line the entire season. I feel like he deserves at least a couple of more years to see if he can develop his O game. Tippett came from Dallas. He knows how to handle his Fins.
The same Coyotes fans who "were kidding themselves" about Sjostrom's offensive prowess are now kidding themselves about Korpikoski. Comparing him to Upshall? Playing on a line with Lombardi and Boedker? Come on...

It's the same old thing on this board. Many of you have such an irrational attachment to role players and marginal NHLers that if you were in charge, this team would never improve (See: Pyatt on many of you lineup predictions for next season).

Look, I like Korpikoski and think he has value on this team. But lets not get ahead of ourselves with these ideas that Korpikoski is anything more than he is...a good PKer with a decent shootout move.

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The same Coyotes fans who "were kidding themselves" about Sjostrom's offensive prowess are now kidding themselves about Korpikoski. Comparing him to Upshall? Playing on a line with Lombardi and Boedker? Come on...

It's the same old thing on this board. Many of you have such an irrational attachment to role players and marginal NHLers that if you were in charge, this team would never improve (See: Pyatt on many of you lineup predictions for next season).

Look, I like Korpikoski and think he has value on this team. But lets not get ahead of ourselves with these ideas that Korpikoski is anything more than he is...a good PKer with a decent shootout move.
He's 24 yrs old, has spent several seasons in the minors where he has been a moderate scorer, and has shown little ability to score at the NHL level. He is what he is, a good 4th liner who can skate fast and is good on the PK. Every team needs that.

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He's 24 yrs old, has spent several seasons in the minors where he has been a moderate scorer, and has shown little ability to score at the NHL level. He is what he is, a good 4th liner who can skate fast and is good on the PK. Every team needs that.
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Korpi is at best a solid 2-way player that can play minutes on your third line and spot fill on your second line. He's not going to play the PP but he will play the PK. I don't see him ever being so consistent that he's guaranteed a spot on a team, but he'll earn his spot year after year. He doesn't play that physical, and while he has some offensive ability he doesn't really seem to be much of a playmaker. He can make some scoring opportunities coming off his own stick, but that's about it offensively. His game is the defensive game, and while he's very solid in that role he is not elite either.

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The same Coyotes fans who "were kidding themselves" about Sjostroms offensive prowess are now kidding themselves about Korpikoski. Comparing him to Upshall? Playing on a line with Lombardi and Boedker? Come on...

It's the same old thing on this board. Many of you have such an irrational attachment to role players and marginal NHLers that if you were in charge, this team would never improve (See: Pyatt on many of you lineup predictions for next season).

Look, I like Korpikoski and think he has value on this team. But lets not get ahead of ourselves with these ideas that Korpikoski is anything more than he is...a good PKer with a decent shootout move.
Sorry, that made me laugh. I was never high on his offense. I must have missed the part where someone compared him to Upshall. I don't see that at all. They are different types of players that will never serve the same purpose to their team. I already explained why I like Korpikoski and what I feel like his upside is. I don't think I made any unrealistic predictions. There's room to grow into a very nice complimentary player that can do spot duty in the top 6, but will spend the majority of his career in the bottom 6 on a good team. Championship teams need those players.

My irrational attachment comes from when I saw him at the WJC's playing for Finland. I saw a pretty special player, one we have only seen spurts of last season. There was talk about confidence issues from Labs earlier in the season. I'm hoping to see even more growth from him next season.

Yes that's what he is right now, but there's room to grow.

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05-23-2010, 12:19 PM
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Sorry, that made me laugh. I was never high on his offense. I must have missed the part where someone compared him to Upshall.
No need to appologize...many here were convinced that Sjostrom would develop into a top 6 guy. As for the Upshall comparison:

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Korpi plays good defense and I think may be another Upshall...
moving on...

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They are different types of players that will never serve the same purpose to their team. I already explained why I like Korpikoski and what I feel like his upside is. I don't think I made any unrealistic predictions. There's room to grow into a very nice complimentary player that can do spot duty in the top 6, but will spend the majority of his career in the bottom 6 on a good team. Championship teams need those players.
Korpikoski has done nothing to justify spot duty on the top 6, nor has he done anything to suggest that he could become a 35-40 point player. He had 3 games where he scored a goal (two 2-goal games) and only 8 games in which he registered a point in 71 games. He didn't even register 1 shot per game.

Where's do see this upside coming from? His AHL numbers? His 6 shootout goals?

Again...I agree that teams need players like Korpikoski and I'm happy we have him. I just don't see whatever some of you are seeing when it comes to his offensive upside.

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Korpikoski has done nothing to justify spot duty on the top 6, nor has he done anything to suggest that he could become a 35-40 point player. He had 3 games where he scored a goal (two 2-goal games) and only 8 games in which he registered a point in 71 games. He didn't even register 1 shot per game.

Where's do see this upside coming from? His AHL numbers? His 6 shootout goals?

Again...I agree that teams need players like Korpikoski and I'm happy we have him. I just don't see whatever some of you are seeing when it comes to his offensive upside.
Why are you so convinced that Korpikoski will not grow as a player? Tippett went to him on many occasions this year for spot duty. I thought he looked good with the Lombardi line for a few games, and I already mentioned he forced his way onto the Czech line towards the end of the season.

I don't really measure upside by just looking at stats. I watched him play for Finland, and sparingly in NY. I was always a fan of his, and he has a lot of room to develop and get better. Like I've said, there's another level Coyotes fans haven't seen yet.

That's fine and all. At the end of the day we are all just a bunch of arm chair GMs, and fans first and foremost. People become attached to certain players for all different reasons. People saw upside in Sjostrom. I didn't, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I guess it's just a wait and see situation, like usual.

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Thx for the review. I was a pretty big fan of Korpikoski when he was here on the East. Loved the speed, loved the defensive awareness. I thought he had the offensive skill set to be a Sami Kapanen type player if he could develop his offensive game, because he was so good defensively coming up he played in higher leagues as a defensive specialist instead of developing his offensive skill set at a more appropriate level.

A Sergei Brylin type, is still incredibly good. I'll make sure to watch him more next season.
I don't think he has anywhere near Sami Kapanen's offensive skill. I think he can carve out a nice niche for himself as a secondary scorer with a really good defensive awareness though.

Sami Kapanen was a wicked scorer in his prime who was quite badly handled by the Canes who thought Jeff O'Neill deserved to play 1st line right wing instead; moving Sami to LW or second wing.

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PJ Axelsson was a pretty good player. Maybe someday, if he continues to improve, Korpikoski might be similarly effective.

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In the game against Washington Korpikoski would have had a hattrick had he scored after his move at :35. I remember the commentator compared him to Gaborik. Korpikoski's flashes of skill are tantalizing but all too brief and he looks hesitant in the offensive zone. He seemed to stop trying his spinoramas and fancy moves as the season went on, in fact. I think he resigned himself to focusing on his defensive responsibilities. If he was more composed and confident I could see him scoring 15-20 goals.

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Nice video. Thanks for sharing Fuhr.

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