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06-01-2010, 06:01 PM
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How do you guys read a Kovalchuk out of the text ????????
The only thing i read is the usual blah blah....

If a GM calls a player a "very special Players" i don't like it too much.
I see more a new Avery like in Clifford.
We need ****ing hockey players not freak shows
It's easy to see what you want to see verses reading or understanding words objectively.

Here is a quote in response to the initial question and then follow up questions on improving 5 on 5 scoring.

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You heard me say that at the trade deadline this year, that it was a subtle sign of progress. I wasn’t a seller, I was a buyer. It still has to be the right price and the right player, and as you know, I didn’t get the guy who went to New Jersey. I just thought the price, at that time, was too high. I wasn’t moving top players for a guy who could walk on me in two months. I do think that your willingness to sell the house, so to speak, when you see teams really expend part of their reserve list, is because they think they can win the whole thing. So if I had done the deal that was proposed to me, to get that big guy at the trade deadline, the only way I could have conceivably thought about that was, `OK, we’re going to win the Cup here, so I will expend this level of player.’ But I wasn’t prepared to say that, and have this guy walk on me. Then we’re going backwards.”
Who do you think was the guy who went to New Jersey?

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It's easy to see what you want to see verses reading or understanding words objectively.

Here is a quote in response to the initial question and then follow up questions on improving 5 on 5 scoring.



Who do you think was the guy who went to New Jersey?

It is clear to me that Lombardi is referring to Anssi Salmela.

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It is clear to me that Lombardi is referring to Anssi Salmela.
Clearly.

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It's easy to see what you want to see verses reading or understanding words objectively.

Here is a quote in response to the initial question and then follow up questions on improving 5 on 5 scoring.



Who do you think was the guy who went to New Jersey?
Hey at least he has an excuse. Well I do too.. I went to public school and I quit college because I thought I was going to be a rockstar. But english is my first and only language.

But really, I know you guys are implying that Kovalchuk is "the right player" but I have a hard time believing he will be the "right price". And if you listen to the interview Johnny Utah posted and other interviews he has done recently, he is a made a big point to say he might just stick with what he has and trying to get them all re-signed. So while he may have interest in Kovalchuk (is there anyone who doesn't?), I just don't think he is going to fit financially.

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It is clear to me that Lombardi is referring to Anssi Salmela.
You would be wrong, Salmela had 14 months left on his contract....

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Hey at least he has an excuse. Well I do too.. I went to public school and I quit college because I thought I was going to be a rockstar. But english is my first and only language.

But really, I know you guys are implying that Kovalchuk is "the right player" but I have a hard time believing he will be the "right price". And if you listen to the interview Johnny Utah posted and other interviews he has done recently, he is a made a big point to say he might just stick with what he has and trying to get them all re-signed. So while he may have interest in Kovalchuk (is there anyone who doesn't?), I just don't think he is going to fit financially.
You're a rock star in my book.

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The point of it all is that we are finally expected to try our best this time around and we have the means to succeed. We did try with Hossa but we didn't put our best effort into it and we didn't have the means to succeed. For the first time, we have the means and willingness to lure and sign the top free agent, and it just so happens to be a once-in-a-lifetime top 5 NHL player just entering his prime.

There is a lot to be excited about. Sure it isn't a guarantee, but our chances aren't exactly slim. To actually hear DL admit that adding guys like Campbell and Hossa are important one month before the best UFA in recent memory hits free agency is mouth watering. I say, regardless of how the next 5 weeks play out, enjoy the thrill. This year has what seems to be an exciting draft, in our hometown, and potentially one of the biggest free agency years in our franchise's history. There is reason to smile in LA.

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The point of it all is that we are finally expected to try our best this time around and we have the means to succeed. We did try with Hossa but we didn't put our best effort into it and we didn't have the means to succeed. For the first time, we have the means and willingness to lure and sign the top free agent, and it just so happens to be a once-in-a-lifetime top 5 NHL player just entering his prime.

There is a lot to be excited about. Sure it isn't a guarantee, but our chances aren't exactly slim. To actually hear DL admit that adding guys like Campbell and Hossa are important one month before the best UFA in recent memory hits free agency is mouth watering. I say, regardless of how the next 5 weeks play out, enjoy the thrill. This year has what seems to be an exciting draft, in our hometown, and potentially one of the biggest free agency years in our franchise's history. There is reason to smile in LA.

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Next part of interview is up, on prospects.

http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/02...-on-prospects/

For my "i told you so" segment for the day:

“So to answer your question, I could say that in a perfect world, to make this all fit with the cap numbers, you’ve got those defensemen coming, so don’t go get them (through free agency or trades), but the thing that might improve you the most is that guy. But he’s not there, in the system, until next year. So then it goes back to your other question. If I wait for a forward internally, is there one there? Well… I’ve got maybe six swings on defense, and I’ve got maybe two swings up the middle, with the centers (Loktionov and Schenn). So that’s a timing issue. So like I said, if the world was going to blow up in 12 months, you might take the back-end guy. But if you’re putting it all together and you want to be a contender, you might say, `OK, it’s not going to be a perfect fit here right now, but I’ve got this coming.’ I’m not saying I have the answer for you, but those are all the issues. It’s very hard to say, `This is definitely the right answer.’ That’s not the nature of this job.”

This is exactly what I've been saying Lombardi's thought process will be in regards to getting a defenseman this year in FA.

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The Schenn cap hit thing is...oh, wow.

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Omg, I'm dying here, I actually love Lombardi:

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“But I think what he showed this year, him and Clifford, Clifford would be in the same mold. He had a little taste of the minors and stepped right in and did really well, everything from the way he played to… Let’s just say that with Burrows and Bieksa, we’re starting to get a few more guys to deal with that stuff. So he will fit in very well when those guys take liberties. We are starting to get closer and closer to handling that part. Give Clune another year. Westgarth is going to challenge for a job. With Cliffy here, we’ll put some of this stuff to bed. I got a little off-track there, because it makes me mad.

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The Schenn cap hit thing is...oh, wow.
Seriously... what?

Shady Lombo-talk.

"Schenner might be one of the first ones to adjust on his first contract and say, `OK, if I’m going to break in, I might have to start as a No. 4, and I can’t break in as a 4 with a $3-million cap number.”

Question: His cap number had been listed at around $3 million. That’s actually not what it would cost you to have him around?

LOMBARDI: “Let’s just say, for now, that he has showed it’s important for him to make this team and not have that as a hindrance.”

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so basically he's saying Schenn starts as the 4th line center next season

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I don't really understand the whole new cap-scenario that DL talks about regarding Schenn.. Does that mean he wants Schenn to worry about making the team before being an over-priced 4th line center?

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so basically he's saying Schenn starts as the 4th line center next season
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`OK, if I’m going to break in, I might have to start as a No. 4, and I can’t break in as a 4 with a $3-million cap number.”

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It's easy to see what you want to see verses reading or understanding words objectively.

Here is a quote in response to the initial question and then follow up questions on improving 5 on 5 scoring.



Who do you think was the guy who went to New Jersey?
Yes i read that..... and aviously he is talking about Kovalchuk.
But... if that realy means he knows Kovalchuk is coming, he had to talk to him or his agend what was denied by the Atlanta GM.

I'm pretty sure he just points onto the fact that he is not trading for any guys who could sign in summer.

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He saying his cap number would have been to high for a 4th line center.

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Either I'm retarded or I'm missing something here..

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I think he means that Schenn structured his contract so that he can break in as the 4th line center without him being way overpriced for that spot.

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I don't really understand the whole new cap-scenario that DL talks about regarding Schenn.. Does that mean he wants Schenn to worry about making the team before being an over-priced 4th line center?
Sounds like Schenn reworked his contract to give the Kings less of a cap hit.

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I think he means that Schenn structured his contract so that he can break in as the 4th line center without him being way overpriced for that spot.
Exactly. That makes me seriously like the kid so much more. For taking a lesser contract just to make sure that he can get a spot with the team when he works his butt off. Awesome.

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Exactly. That makes me seriously like the kid so much more. For taking a lesser contract just to make sure that he can get a spot with the team when he works his butt off. Awesome.
Agree. He'll make his money back anyway, as he'll be a UFA one year sooner.

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Wow.. that's impressive stuff on Schenn's part, I really like that and I guarantee you he'll make the lineup next season.. I'm still pulling for a Richardson-Schenn-Lewis 4th line, with Westy and Clune coming in against tough teams

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I jotted down some thoughts on this curious subject: http://lakingsnews.com/2010/06/02/br...cap-confusion/

I think it means that the bonuses in the contract are controllable by the Kings.

Things like, "games played" and "Average TOI" bonuses. If such things exist, which they may not.

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Exactly. That makes me seriously like the kid so much more. For taking a lesser contract just to make sure that he can get a spot with the team when he works his butt off. Awesome.
That can't be ALL there is to it though, because the cap number is 3.14, and Lombardi says that Schenn helped him make it so that he won't be a $3 million 4th line center.

From Lombardi's wording, it sounds like he has something up his sleeve. Something, perhaps, that people in the NHLPA or NHL offices may not like even? Otherwise, why be so coy and tightlipped about what he means?


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