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06-11-2010, 11:40 AM
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Actually, if we were to lose Pleck and not be able to sign an alternetive......Id sign a LW and move Pouliot back at C......

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I think believe that Trotter can center a second line is being more optimistic (bordering delusion) than thinking Plek will return.

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Actually, if we were to lose Pleck and not be able to sign an alternative......Id sign a LW and move Pouliot back at C......
In all liklyhood, this is IMO the most perceivable action that we can foresee as of now. I remember JM and PG speaking of Pouliot as a center at a press conference, not just pondering, but rather considering. Also, very cap friendly.

Besides a trade to land a Carter or a Staal or a Lecavalier (all doubtful)

Besides signing Marleau...(very pricy)

It will be much more easier to land a Clowe or Armstrong...

...and maybe bolster our defense with a physical specimen.


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06-11-2010, 12:32 PM
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Is trotter ready to play wing on 3rd line in NHL next year?
I don't think so, plus the last thing the Habs need is a smallish soft winger that isn't very good in his own end, or very strong on his skates.

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Didn't you all know? Trotter is going to be part of the package in the inevitable deal we're going to make with Tampa Bay.

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I don't think so, plus the last thing the Habs need is a smallish soft winger that isn't very good in his own end, or very strong on his skates.
Any forwards from the minors ready? I realize pacioretty is probably most ready but may be left down to learn more at a lower level first. Anyone besides him that can play 3rd line next year?

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Any forwards from the minors ready? I realize pacioretty is probably most ready but may be left down to learn more at a lower level first. Anyone besides him that can play 3rd line next year?
Since Pyatt is a full timer, I could see White making the team, if not he should get a few callups. Trotter has the waiver issue so they might keep him around as a spare forward. I'd like to see Desharnais get a callup.

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Since Pyatt is a full timer, I could see White making the team, if not he should get a few callups. Trotter has the waiver issue so they might keep him around as a spare forward. I'd like to see Desharnais get a callup.
Alright, I assume maxpac/white/desharnais/weber/carle are all call-ups? Trotter being 13th forward?

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Alright, I assume maxpac/white/desharnais/weber/carle are all call-ups? Trotter being 13th forward?
could be, hard to say what the roster will look like since it's early summer yet.

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could be, hard to say what the roster will look like since it's early summer yet.
True. Just looking into who we'd have on cap-friendly deals next year.

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In all liklyhood, this is IMO the most perceivable action that we can foresee as of now. I remember JM and PG speaking of Pouliot as a center at a press conference, not just pondering, but rather considering. Also, very cap friendly.

Besides a trade to land a Carter or a Staal or a Lecavalier (all doubtful)

Besides signing Marleau...(very pricy)

It will be much more easier to land a Clowe or Armstrong...

...and maybe bolster our defense with a physical specimen.
Maybe we can add Ott and Malone to the list of "easier to land" players for the top 6......

Additionally, maybe Pouliot would focus more in standing in front of the goalie in the center role....his size would help there....

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Marleau - Gomez - Gionta
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Cammalleri
Pouliot - Moore - Armstrong
Lapierre - Pyatt - Moen

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I was thinking about this today. What if we signed Patrick Marleau to a one year contract this summer if we couldn't re-sign Plekanec? What do you guys think?

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I was thinking about this today. What if we signed Patrick Marleau to a one year contract this summer if we couldn't re-sign Plekanec? What do you guys think?
If your Marleau why the heck would you sign a one year deal?

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If your Marleau why the heck would you sign a one year deal?
My thoughts exactly. Unless you give him 10 mil, but I still think he rejects it.

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Actually, if we were to lose Pleck and not be able to sign an alternetive......Id sign a LW and move Pouliot back at C......
Pouliot as a C is a disaster in the making. Unless he suddenly becomes aware defensively and willing to back check every game.

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Pouliot as a C is a disaster in the making. Unless he suddenly becomes aware defensively and willing to back check every game.
I wouldn't make him 2nd line C but pouliot plays like a C big time. He's all over the ice. He doesn't play boards like a winger.

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Pouliot as a C is a disaster in the making. Unless he suddenly becomes aware defensively and willing to back check every game.
I think you are a bit harsh on Pouliot's defensive play. The guy needs coaching to fill the role properly, that is true. But so many of his assets are more suited for centering a line.

And with his easy stride, backchecking should not be a stretch.

Clowe - Gomez - Gionta
Cammalleri - Pouliot - Armstrong
Pacioretty - Moore - Moen
Lapierre - Pyatt - White
Metro/Darche

Would make a hard roster to play against.

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I think you are a bit harsh on Pouliot's defensive play. The guy needs coaching to fill the role properly, that is true. But so many of his assets are more suited for centering a line.

And with his easy stride, backchecking should not be a stretch.

Clowe - Gomez - Gionta
Cammalleri - Pouliot - Armstrong
Pacioretty - Moore - Moen
Lapierre - Pyatt - White
Metro/Darche

Would make a hard roster to play against.
Did Cammy kicked you dog or what??

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I think you are a bit harsh on Pouliot's defensive play. The guy needs coaching to fill the role properly, that is true. But so many of his assets are more suited for centering a line.

And with his easy stride, backchecking should not be a stretch.

Clowe - Gomez - Gionta
Cammalleri - Pouliot - Armstrong
Pacioretty - Moore - Moen
Lapierre - Pyatt - White
Metro/Darche

Would make a hard roster to play against.
If I am Mike Cammalleri, and this is the line mates I am given.. This is my reaction:


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Whats better as a linemate:

1) Having a streaky and lifeless AK with 40-ish points

2) Having hard working hustlers like Clowe or Armstrong with 40-ish points

I do agree that it is not top tier, but we do not have rich prospect for our top 6.

And mind you this scenario would be the result the departure of Plekanec and not been able to trade for a top tier center.

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If your Marleau why the heck would you sign a one year deal?
I dont remember ever seeing a prime UFA sign a one year....doest not stand to reason....

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Whats better as a linemate:

1) Having a streaky and lifeless AK with 40-ish points

2) Having hard working hustlers like Clowe or Armstrong with 40-ish points

I do agree that it is not top tier, but we do not have rich prospect for our top 6.

And mind you this scenario would be the result the departure of Plekanec and not been able to trade for a top tier center.
Your projected lines are Cammy with Pouliot and Armstrong... Pouliot has a lot of work a head of him just to get back into the position he had as a good winger with us, nevermind evolving into a 2nd line center during the off-season. He is extremely weak on his skates, underweight for his frame (although he can throw some nice hits)... He needs to bulk up 10lbs of muscle, get stronger on his feet to win more battles and he will be a great piece to our top 6. Just not centering the 2nd line, imo.

Armstrong is a very solid 3rd line player who can play the 2nd line occassionally to mix things up or to fill in for an injury, but for an 82 game season he simply won't be good enough if we hope to make the playoffs again next year. I'm definitely interested in signing him if the price is right, but even though AK is completely enigmatic I don't think Armstrong is an improvement in this position.

If the team is completely certain that Pleks is unsignable, then it will undoubtably perform some sort of trade in an attempt to lessen the blow. On the FA market the only player that can fill his shoes is Marleau, he's obviously an upgrade..

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I dont remember ever seeing a prime UFA sign a one year....doest not stand to reason....
Marian Hossa, 2008, signs one-year deal with Detroit Red Wings.

We are not the Detroit Red Wings though...

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