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06-14-2010, 01:27 PM
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Skates too sharp

Hi all:

I recently got my skates sharpened up and they are way too sharp. Since I'm a beginner I'm having a hard time stopping with them. I've heard a few guys say to scrape them over a piece of wood, but a few guys have advised against it. Any opinions on how to dull them?

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For future reference, what do I say to the skate sharpener guy the next time I go to get them sharpened? I've looked at different threads and they all use measurements (1/2", 3/8") but i have no idea whatsoever on how to "read" those measurements. Care to give an explanation?

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Ask what hollow they sharpen skates to, and get 1/8" shallower next time (i.e. if they have 1/2", go 5/8", etc).

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I would not advise you to try to dull your skates using a piece of wood or plastic. While it may dull your skates it will probably be uneven and even then dulling them is not what the problem is anyway.

You need to change your skate bladed Radius of hollow. This is how deep or shallow the cut of you skate blade is. the deeper the hollow the more bite it has(it will feel sharper). the shallower the hollow the more glide and less bite it will have( it will feel duller).

Hollows are measured in 1/16" increments

These are the most common

11/16" 5/8" 9/16" 1/2" 7/16" 3/8" 5/16"
<-- less bite more glide More bite less glide -->


The only real way to know what your radius of hollow is right for you is to try different sharpenings.

Hope thsi makes sense.

Take a look at these webpages. They should give you some good info on how to choose the right skate sharpening for you.

http://www.redi-edgeice.com/skate-sharpening-tips.aspx

http://noicingsports.com/skate_sharpening_radius.html


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The skates will eventually get dull the more you skate on them; the amount of time may vary from individual to individual.

Some may recommend that you take a copper penny (I believe it needs to be prior to 1968 or have a wheat leaf on it) and lightly rub the penny (on the flat side of the penny) along the length of your blade to slightly dull the edges.

While you might have an easier time stopping on your skates when they are dull, you might be losing some valuable edge control since the edges are dull and might feel like your edges are slipping a bit.

The cut that is fairly common is 1/2" on skates, but it obviously varies from person to person. For someone getting started, I would say that a 1/2" is good place to start. Going with a smaller cut, say 3/8", you will feel like you can make tighter turns, but you may lose a bit of stability.

Hopefully this information is helpful, I too am a beginner, so hopefully I am correct with this information.

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Speaking of which, how much time/usage does it take to dull a skate blade? Are we talking days, weeks...

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Speaking of which, how much time/usage does it take to dull a skate blade? Are we talking days, weeks...
Depends on how much and how hard you skate on them. I can get away with about 2 weeks or so before my skates start slipping out from under me. That includes 2 stick times, and maybe 10 hours of public skate during that time. It's all personal preference though. You'll start to know when they need to be sharpened.

To jlnjcb: How many times have you skated on that sharpness? If you've only skated a time or two with it, personally, I would suggest giving it a few more skates if possible. When I was first learning to skate the first few sharpenings I got were pretty dull (didn't notice at the time). When I got a quality 1/2" cut for the first time I nearly snapped my ankle and broke my neck on my first hockey stop attempt on the new blades. Since then I've gotten used to the sharpness and love it, I don't even think of them as particularly sharp anymore.

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Speaking of which, how much time/usage does it take to dull a skate blade? Are we talking days, weeks...
That depends on how much wood you apply to the blade (I kid, I kid !!).

Really depends on how much you thrash them. If you feel you are losing an edge too easily, take them in. For me sometimes it's months, some times weeks.

After a while you will get a feel for it.

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My skates usually last 10-12 ice times, unless it's winter and I skate outside (closer to 3-4) or if I get a nick in the blade.

Also, cheap skates have crappy steel that needs more frequent sharpening. I used to only get a few hours out of my crappy $80 skates.

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To jlnjcb: How many times have you skated on that sharpness? If you've only skated a time or two with it, personally, I would suggest giving it a few more skates if possible. When I was first learning to skate the first few sharpenings I got were pretty dull (didn't notice at the time). When I got a quality 1/2" cut for the first time I nearly snapped my ankle and broke my neck on my first hockey stop attempt on the new blades. Since then I've gotten used to the sharpness and love it, I don't even think of them as particularly sharp anymore.
I've skated probably 4 hours worth with it being "too sharp". The thing that annoys me the most is I can't stop with them. Everything else is pretty much fine.

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06-14-2010, 04:28 PM
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So basically I should just say to the sharpener:

"Can I get a 5/8" hallow"? if the usually do 1/2"; or a 1/2" if they do a 3/8"

i dont want to sound like a idiot lol.

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So basically I should just say to the sharpener:

"Can I get a 5/8" hallow"? if the usually do 1/2"; or a 1/2" if they do a 3/8"

i dont want to sound like a idiot lol.
That's correct, and you'll probably sound smarter than 95% of the people

When you're stopping, are the skates "chattering", as in skipping along the ice?

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That's correct, and you'll probably sound smarter than 95% of the people

When you're stopping, are the skates "chattering", as in skipping along the ice?
Ya, thats how I would describe it. Like it has too much "grip"

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I get a 7/16 cut and if I dont have a session or two before a game to wear em down I will use the metal door handle at the benches as a way to help speed up the process. Works perfect for me =]

Also to the part of stopping, I am the same way at first when they are fresh cut thats why I gotta wear em down before a game. They catch too much for my liking/style of play, learned that the hard way first time I got that cut and didn't get in any stick sessions before a game.

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Sounds like it would help then, just take those first few corners slow (from personal experience...ouch!)

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I've skated probably 4 hours worth with it being "too sharp". The thing that annoys me the most is I can't stop with them. Everything else is pretty much fine.
Well nevermind then. Definitely time to try a bit shallower of a hollow.

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Take them back to where you go them sharpend and tell them that they are too sharp. I'm am sure that they will 'dull' them for you.

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You can grind them down on the threshold of where the gate opens to the bench. In the meantime check out this guide to skate sharpening

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use a penny and lay it flat on the business part of the blade then slide it up and down once or twice.

I use a 1/2" sharp and I like my skates very sharp. I like them best the day I get them cut.
I know 1/2" slows you down but you should see my turns. hahaha

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When I get my skates sharpened I do what you see goalies do in their crease before games. Skate side to side in one place several times. Takes enough edge off to stop properly.

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I get a 7/16 cut and if I dont have a session or two before a game to wear em down I will use the metal door handle at the benches as a way to help speed up the process. Works perfect for me =]

Also to the part of stopping, I am the same way at first when they are fresh cut thats why I gotta wear em down before a game. They catch too much for my liking/style of play, learned that the hard way first time I got that cut and didn't get in any stick sessions before a game.
And you, like the OP, need a shallower hollow.

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And you, like the OP, need a shallower hollow.
Probably so, I am going for a 1/2 next sharp but thats mostly because a guy Im gonna use now can only do that. I really like the 7/16 besides how sharp it as at first like I said. Besides that I have no performance issues because of the cut.

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