Montreal isn't in any position to be asking the world for Price. The franchise has all but given up on Price and yet they expect to get a top six forward for him? Come on now, the Canadiens have completely devalued Price. There's no way they get a top six forward from any team for him. Montreal will be lucky to get a prospect and a mid round pick.
They might get a 27ish winger who can put up 50 points, the problem is the Flyers don't really have any of those available since everyone loves Hartnell again.
I get the feeling that these leaks come from inside the Flyers organization. If you want to kill the goalie trade talk, float a rumour that Montreal wants Giroux. That is a hell of a jump from the 2nd rounder they wanted for Halak in January. Homer wouldn't even think about this. The goalie situation will NOT be solved via trade, it will be solved via free agency or they will bring back Backlund, Leighton and Boucher and see if Bobby makes the jump. That is still a possibility I am comfortable with.
I think:
1. Turco. If he takes a discounted price, he is a Flyer.
2. Ellis. If Turco doesn't sign, then Ellis is likely a Flyer. If that happens, I think you have to bring back Leighton and trade Boucher. Ellis is unproven, so now you have a 1A and 1B and let them determine who is a legit #1 in this league.
3. Sign Leighton as #1 and see what happens with Backlund and Bobby.
I don't think Homer will move a player to get a goalie when he can get one for free or keep what he already has. THEY ARE NOT TRADING GIROUX OR JVR!!!! They BETTER NOT!!!
Also, why do you trade someone who has proven more then Price has, at the same age? I know Habs fans will cry and yell at me when they see this, but right now, Giroux has more value then Price.
Flyers organization loves Giroux... no trade will happen, not even for Jesus Price.
Which has nothing to do with Montreal's perspective of a potential deal. If both players achiever their potential, Price is a MUCH more valuable player.
You were throwing around how "average" Price, at 22, was the other day. Claude Giroux must have had the most kickass 47 point -9 campaign ever for a 22 y/o if he's not classed the same...
I'd stay away from Carey Price. Especially if the package going the other way is Giroux. Giroux is a gamer, I hate the little *******, but I respect him immensely as a player. Plays the game the right way.
Price is a headcase, and if he can't play because of the pressure in Montreal, the pressure in Philadelphia will eat him alive.
He has what it takes to be a good tender, just can't play that well under pressure. Plus he parties way too much, which is another problem for him.
So I say do it, that way I can actually hate Giroux less
Also, why do you trade someone who has proven more then Price has, at the same age? I know Habs fans will cry and yell at me when they see this, but right now, Giroux has more value then Price.
What has Giroux proven? He can have a hot playoff run?
I'd stay away from Carey Price. Especially if the package going the other way is Giroux. Giroux is a gamer, I hate the little *******, but I respect him immensely as a player. Plays the game the right way.
Price is a headcase, and if he can't play because of the pressure in Montreal, the pressure in Philadelphia will eat him alive.
So I say do it, that way I can actually hate Giroux less
WTF are you talking about? The pressure in Philly isn't even remotely in the same universe as that of Montreal.
WTF are you talking about? The pressure in Philly isn't even remotely in the same universe as that of Montreal.
That's true, it isn't. But it's a pressure packed place to play regardless. He can't deal with it, he's perfect for a New Jersey, or Atlanta where no one could give two ***** what he'd do.
What has Giroux proven? He can have a hot playoff run?
His offensive output this year was very average.
I'll take the guy that was a major piece of a team that was 2 wins shy of the cup over a guy that however much potential he has, has not strung together anything close to that potential for an extended period of time.
What has Price proven? An average season being taken over by another goalie?
Playoffs are more important then season. Also Giroux played 3rd line for most of the season with a rookie who hit the wall and Asham
Giroux hit the wall too, dude. He wasn't very good the 2nd half of the season.
Playoffs are hockey... no different from the regular season. I mean, Fernando Pisani is ****ing awesome and all, but really?
Giroux is going to be a good player, but if you're going to joke about "Jesus Price" you need to reflect on the deification of an undersized player that has yet to score 50 pts in the NHL.
It's not crazy, it's insane! The Habs showed they had no faith in Price when it mattered and now they're hoping to get Roo for him?
Jester is right that their asking price is not insane, but I do think it would be insane for us to make that trade, however. Price still is a valuable commodity but Giroux is much more of a sure thing at this point than Price, IMO.
I'll take the guy that was a major piece of a team that was 2 wins shy of the cup over a guy that however much potential he has, has not strung together anything close to that potential for an extended period of time.
What 22 y/o goalie has? Most goalies his age aren't even in the NHL, let alone getting the number of starts he's gotten.
Brodeur didn't have his first "great" season until he was 24.
Giroux hit the wall too, dude. He wasn't very good the 2nd half of the season.
Playoffs are hockey... no different from the regular season. I mean, Fernando Pisani is ****ing awesome and all, but really?
Giroux is going to be a good player, but if you're going to joke about "Jesus Price" you need to reflect on the deification of an undersized player that has yet to score 50 pts in the NHL.
Ahh see but thats the arguement Price fans use with him. "He is just 22"! Yes, and Giroux is two. Giroux has proven more for the 1 and 1/2 years he has played then Giroux has. Giroux has been more important to us these past 2 years then Price has been for the Habs.
It's not crazy, it's insane! The Habs showed they had no faith in Price when it mattered and now they're hoping to get Roo for him?
I love that Halak playing so well has turned into a critique of Price. Best hockey meme of the year as far as I'm concerned, since the same story has occurred with Tim Thomas and Rask.
I'd rather deal JVR for Price, but I agree with Jester that it's not an unreasonable request.
In regards to Price, I think it's just a lazy assumption that he is inconsistent because he can't handle the pressure in Montreal. He's 22. What 22 year old goalie consistently performs at a high level? Heck Ryan Miller wasn't even in the league at that age. He's also way better than Fleury at the same age.
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Originally Posted by Quacker912
Giroux will go no where. Why do the Habs love small players so much?
Well I don't think they would target Giroux because he is small.
Ahh see but thats the arguement Price fans use with him. "He is just 22"! Yes, and Giroux is two. Giroux has proven more for the 1 and 1/2 years he has played then Giroux has. Giroux has been more important to us these past 2 years then Price has been for the Habs.
Price was the Habs starting goalie last year... please don't go down the Shafer path of the thinking depth forwards are more important to the team than the starting goalie. Price didn't play great last year (was fantastic the year before that), but please don't go down that path.
If each player achieves their potential, Price is IMMENSELY more valuable than Giroux.
That being said, you don't cut such a deal if you think Bob has any shot of being a successful starter, etc. or if maybe Schneider can be had for less. However, Montreal looking for Giroux in return is FAR from "crazy."
I think they are crazy for expecting this.. 
