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06-15-2010, 04:55 PM
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Teubert to Edm

What would it take to get Teubert out of L.A. and into the Oilers mix.

Off of the Oilers current roster not including the sexy picks Eberle, MPS, 1st overall, Petry which are essential to Edmonton's current rebuild. The Oilers desperately need a blue chip Dman in the system other than fringe blue chipper Petry.

Penner

for

Teubert + Clifford + Voynov

Penner easily replaces Frolov and the Kings are deep at D prospects. Do you think the Kings might be intrested in a deal like this?


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Doubt LAK does it.

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They will likely need the cap space for Kovalchuk or Marleau.

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What would it take to get Teubert out of L.A. and into the Oilers mix.

Off of the Oilers current roster not including the sexy picks Eberle, MPS, 1st overall, Petry which are essential to Edmonton's current rebuild. The Oilers desperately need a blue chip Dman in the system other than fringe blue chipper Petry.

Penner

for

Teubert + Clifford + O'Donnell(salary dump but a good vet for the Oil)

Penner easily replaces Frolov and the Kings are deep at D prospects. Do you think the Kings might be intrested in a deal like this?
O'Donnell is a UFA, you can have him for free.

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06-15-2010, 05:06 PM
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What would it take to get Teubert out of L.A. and into the Oilers mix.

Off of the Oilers current roster not including the sexy picks Eberle, MPS, 1st overall, Petry which are essential to Edmonton's current rebuild. The Oilers desperately need a blue chip Dman in the system other than fringe blue chipper Petry.

Penner

for

Teubert + Clifford + O'Donnell(salary dump but a good vet for the Oil)

Penner easily replaces Frolov and the Kings are deep at D prospects. Do you think the Kings might be intrested in a deal like this?
O'Donnell is set to be a ufa!
I do not see DL dealing Clifford at this point!
Teubert is a project.

Pass on the deal

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06-15-2010, 05:08 PM
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O'Donnell is a UFA, you can have him for free.
capgeek had him signed through 10-11 i thought could be wrong though

edit UFA last years salary 1.2 quoted will fix deal

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From a Kings POV, I do this deal.

I'm not high on either Teubs or Clifford.

I'd even consider switching Clifford for Lewis if the Oilers want, since Lewis seems to have totally fallen out of favor here.

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I'm pretty sure this would be an option after July 1st when the Kovy or Marleu thing fails

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Ha... yes, wait until the Kings fail once again to land any free agents of note. Then your deal will look much better.

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Im not a big fan of Teubert, He doesnt have much hockey smarts yet, but who knows if 3-4 years

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I'm pretty sure this would be an option after July 1st when the Kovy or Marleu thing fails
Pretty much. Nothing of the sort would be considered prior to July 1st.

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I really hope Kings don't get Kovy, they are already a serious threat for a very long time adding a final marquee player would be the nail in the NHL coffin

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wont the kings have trouble locking up their younger players if they sign kovy long term?

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I would think LA would have to give up a bit more if they wanted to pry away a 1st liner in Penner.

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wont the kings have trouble locking up their younger players if they sign kovy long term?
Don't worry.. DL has it all planned out.. And anyways, Smyth's 6 mill contract will end soon which will clean up a lot of space.
EDIT: I really like this deal. I think Penner could really be a good player for the Kings. Big body who drives to the net.

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Edmonton does not do this. We have Smid, who may not be as good as Colton, but is close.

Also, why would we trade a 27 year old 30 goal scorer with size?

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wont the kings have trouble locking up their younger players if they sign kovy long term?
Nope, Williams 3.5M$ and Handzus 4M$ Contract's are off the books next season, and Smyths 6.25M$ and Stoll's 3.6M$ Contract are off the books in 2 years.

That free's up 7.5M$ Added on to the 15M$ (I think) we already have, Leaves 22.5M$ for Doughty, Johnson, Simmonds, and Kovalchuk/Marleau. Then, the next year 9.85M$ is off the books, as I dont see either Smyth or Stoll being extended.

Lets assume that Zus and Williams are let go.

8.5M$ - Kovalchuk (I dont know his real value)

That leaves 16M$ to sign DD, JJ, and Simmer.

The Kings will be fine. I think that Stoll could take over for Zus if we let him go and even Lewis could fill that role. But with the injury and the way Williams ended the season, I doubt he gets extended unless he plays a full season this year. Zus, its going to depend on this upcoming year and if management thinks we cant fill his role within the system.


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Edmonton does not do this. We have Smid, who may not be as good as Colton, but is close.

Also, why would we trade a 27 year old 30 goal scorer with size?
I dont think LA would be that interested in Penner, and thats not a knock on him at all. Kopitar is a big goal scorer with size, so I think it'd be better to find some speedy wingers with a nice hands for Kopitar's wings, instead of a slower, big bodied scorer.

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I have no desire for the Kings to acquire Penner. He took a year off from eating cheeseburgers and he had a good year. I dont think it's happening again.

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Clifford is actually the better prospect than Teubert at this point, or at least the one most likely to reach his potential.

Anyways, I wouldn't do the deal. The type of reaction you get from LA fans around here when Simmonds' name is mentioned in trade talks is the same type of reaction you can expect when mentioning Clifford's name pretty much. Also, there is no way that DL makes a deal for Penner when his value is at an all-time high.

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Teubert isn't the hanging point here. It is Clifford and Voinov that keep this deal from happening. Not even taking into consideration Penners' inconsistency and "if" he goes back to his former ways, his 4.25 cap for a 45pt wing is burdensome.

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They will likely need the cap space for Kovalchuk or Marleau.
hahaha, i hope LA gets both those guys. kovalev by trade too.

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Seriously guys, no way in hell is Lombardi going to sign Kovlachuk. Don't consider it in any of these proposals - it is not going to happen unless Ilya will take far less money and term than he could elsewhere.

Just because the money is there next year doesn't mean that it will be there in two years, and no, just because Smyth, Williams and Handzus come off the books over the course of the next two years doesn't mean that the kids will be ready to step into those MAJOR roles. The Kings aren't ready to lock anyone from the outside up longterm yet - it just isn't financially viable, and it doesn't make sense on-ice either.

Take a look at any roster from three years ago. The changes teams go thru in the course of a few years is dramatic. You can't allow yourself to think it will be okay to put all of your eggs in the basket of prospects - you have to leave flexibility.

In two years Doughty will be making $5-7 mil per. Johnson will probably be making $3-5 mil per depending on his progression. Simmonds, and most likely Bernier will be looking at significant raises. That's $8-10 million more per season just for guys already on the roster.

All that cap space has to come from somewhere - you can't spend it now.

Lombardi goes over scenario after scenario after scenario in the course of making his decisions. He would NEVER sell out the future, which looks good but isn't here yet, for the sake of bringing in the type of guy that he has told you for years is not a high priority.

Aside from that...

Clifford, who is loved by this organization, isn't going anywhere yet, and while I am sure Teubert and Voynov can be had in "hockey" deals, I don't see that as being enough to whet Edmonton's appetite to move Penner.

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