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06-03-2010, 03:36 PM
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HahAHahHAHAAHAHAHHAhHAhAHahAHA. 1 million? You'll be surprised my friend, VERY surprised. Do you know that his cap hit is currently 2.2 millions? You think he'll accept some kind of cut on his pay? I don't know what his bonuses were, but he probably managed to get most of it (correct me if i'm wrong). The only thing on our side is that he don't have arbitration rights.

"He's 23, he won't mind"... I have some news for you... he WILL mind. He have the potential to be number one almost anywhere in the league. He will ask for the kind of money this position allow him. The possibilities to keep both him and Halak are thin.

This is going to be very interesting.
Price earned $850,000 this year. He did not make any of his bonuses.

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06-03-2010, 03:37 PM
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So we trade Kostitsyn for another headcase?

I rather just keep AK
Yes. Radulov is better than kostitsyn IMO . problem vs problem are the most commun trade in nhl.

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06-03-2010, 03:45 PM
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Yes. Radulov is better than kostitsyn IMO . problem vs problem are the most commun trade in nhl.
Other problems: Zherdev and Filatov.

Would they be ebtter than A.K and S.K ?

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Other problems: Zherdev and Filatov.

Would they be ebtter than A.K and S.K ?

if you can get rid of a problem without taking back an other , you do it But AK vs radulov it's a good bet.Radulov consider quebec as his second home, he scored 26 goales in his second nhl season

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Its unbelivable how underrated/hated A.Kostitsyn's getting.
Underrated? You're saying Radulov is not worth AK??

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Love Iginla and Backes very much. Clowe looks good on the Sharks but I still have certain uncomfort towards him. Is he a product of the great core in SJ?
By great core, you mean Pavelski and Setoguchi?

He doesn't play with Thornton... Clowe is has good as Backes, but Backes is faster which would best suit the habs style.

Clowe is sign for multiple years and Backes will be an UFA... I wouldn't give the moon to get Backes.

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06-17-2010, 02:55 PM
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Halak being traded...

So where does that put us cap-wise regarding this summer's offseason?

Let's say the cap increases to 58,000,000$ (modest estimation)... We are commited to 45,977,976 in salaries.

We have just a little over 12 million bucks to work with.

No, is Plekanec going to be back, or will we turn the corner and promote Eller to the big league as soon as next year?

Let's say Plekanec gets 5M$. That leaves us with around 7M to work with to re-sign:

Price (estimation: 1,75M)
Pouliot (estimation: 0,85M)
Sergei Kostitsyn (estimation: 0,85M)

We have 3,550,000 left to fill the lineup.

Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta
Cammalleri - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn
Moen - __________/Eller? - __________
Pyatt - Lapierre - White

Markov - Subban
Hamrlik - Spacek
Gill - Gorges

Price
________

Where are we going from there? Can we actually afford to let Tomas Plekanec go? Are the Kostitsyn's here to stay?

Just dealing both brothers away could save us around 4M. We would then have 7,55M in cap space for two wingers and a back-up goalie (granted, Eller would have to start in the NHL next season).

What's your take? What's going to happen?

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06-17-2010, 03:05 PM
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We just need to get rid of Spacek and find a good defenceman to replace him, on invest his salary into a powerforward and give a shot to Subban and everything will be perfect. I have seen enough of Spacek.

What is Kostitsyn doing in this lineup ? I hope we get rid of those 2 useless and selfish clowns.


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06-17-2010, 03:14 PM
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All in all, there is one conclusions I keep coming back to:

We need to have a cheap, young 3rd line center, so we can afford to spend on winger(s).

I keep hoping both Kostitsyn brothers get traded. This is the way to go IMHO.

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06-17-2010, 03:19 PM
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Doubt Price gets less than he was making this year ($2.2), especially after Halak being traded. If he does, his agent sucks.

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06-17-2010, 03:20 PM
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To me this means the following:

12 million left...

Pouliot gets 1.5ish
Kostitsyn or replacement on roster gets 1 million or less (White?)
Price gets 2 million.

That leaves us about 8 million, just shy, for a backup goalie and a 3rd line center.

Say Moore gets 2... And backup gets 1.

We have 5 million left.

Could be the team is swinging for the fences here. If they think Eller can replace Plekanec, in the event they strike out, this could be their way of setting up either for Marleau or Kovalchuck... or to try and pry some cap relief trades out of Chicago (Hossa, Versteeg?)

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06-17-2010, 03:29 PM
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Doubt Price gets less than he was making this year ($2.2), especially after Halak being traded. If he does, his agent sucks.
He was in his ELC and had big bonuses. I can't see him getting much more than 2M per season.

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I think one of Hamrlik or Spacek is gone before the start of next season too. They're not going to have O'Byrne as a 7th defenseman again and Subban needs to be in the lineup.

One of those guys being moved gives us a little more cap relief for Pleks to be back.

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06-17-2010, 03:32 PM
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I think one of Hamrlik or Spacek is gone before the start of next season too. They're not going to have O'Byrne as a 7th defenseman again and Subban needs to be in the lineup.

One of those guys being moved gives us a little more cap relief for Pleks to be back.
Hammer has a NTC and is not going to move at that price, at least not before the season.

Spacek will be tough to move too.

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06-17-2010, 03:35 PM
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He was in his ELC and had big bonuses. I can't see him getting much more than 2M per season.
I get that, and I'm not saying he's going to haul in $5 mil per year, but I think $1.75m is wishful thinking. $2.2m-$2.5 is what I'm guessing.

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Hammer has a NTC and is not going to move at that price, at least not before the season.

Spacek will be tough to move too.
Leaving the option of trading both brothers as the best one.

This, or get Sharp, let Plekanec go, and use the remaining cap space (roughly 4 - 4,5M) to sign a guy like Frolov.

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You might as well pencil Theodore in there.

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I can't see Price getting any more than his qualifying offer on a one-year deal. If it's a multi-year deal then I see it being between 1.5 and 2.5 per year.

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I'm thinking the Kostitsyns are next to go, and hopefully to EDM for Penner

Penner-Plekanec-Cammy
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Lapierre-Eller-Moen
White/Stewart-Moore-Pyatt

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Doubt Price gets less than he was making this year ($2.2), especially after Halak being traded. If he does, his agent sucks.
he can't, as RFA he has to make at least 2.2 again this year

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he can't, as RFA he has to make at least 2.2 again this year
No it was mostly bonuses that counted against the cap. His salary was the 0.875m

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Pouliot (1) - Gomez (7,3) - Gionta (5)
Kostitsyn (3,25) - X - Cammalleri (6)
Moen (1,5) - Eller (1,2) - Lapierre (1)
Darche (0,6) - Pyatt (0,85) - White (0,85)
Kostitsyn (0,8)

Markov (5,75) - Subban (0,875)
Hamrlik (5,5) - Spacek (3,833)
Gorges (1,1) - Gill (2,5)
O'Byrne (0,942)

Price (3)
Biron (1)

53.85M
4,95M left...nothing much for a 2nd C..Plekanec at 4M or Lombardi at 3M...not a lot of space honestly (and price will get something like 3M...because there is no more halak)

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Cammalleri (6) - Gomez (7,3) - Gionta (5)
Kovalchuk (8)- Eller (1,2) - Pouliot (1)
Moen (1,5) - Moore (2.0) - White (0,85)
Pyatt (1.5) - Lapierre (1) - Pyatt (0,85)
Darche (0,6)

Markov (5,75) - Subban (0,875)
Spacek (3,8) - O'Byrne (0,9)
Gorges (1,1) - Gill (2,5)
7th DMAN (1,5)

Price (3)
Biron (1,5)

Pretty much 58 millions and something not asking for too much imagination...

I think that Eller as second line center with Cammalleri or Kovalchuk would give similar stats to those of Plekanec or at least something along the lines of what to expect from a second line center.

Defence wouldn't be that bad, didn't want to loose time spculating on the 7th dman lol

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I foresee a 3 year, 9 million dollar contract for Price.

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Cammalleri (6) - Gomez (7,3) - Gionta (5)
Kovalchuk (8)- Eller (1,2) - Pouliot (1)
Moen (1,5) - Moore (2.0) - White (0,85)
Pyatt (1.5) - Lapierre (1) - Pyatt (0,85)
Darche (0,6)

Markov (5,75) - Subban (0,875)
Spacek (3,8) - O'Byrne (0,9)
Gorges (1,1) - Gill (2,5)
7th DMAN (1,5)

Price (3)
Biron (1,5)

Pretty much 58 millions and something not asking for too much imagination...

I think that Eller as second line center with Cammalleri or Kovalchuk would give similar stats to those of Plekanec or at least something along the lines of what to expect from a second line center.

Defence wouldn't be that bad, didn't want to loose time spculating on the 7th dman lol
I think we could possibly look at guys like:

Nick Boyton - was making 1.5 but probably could get him from 1- 1.2 for 1 year.
Carlo Colaiacovo - injury problems, but could be a steal for around 1- 1.5/per
Johnny Boychuk - rough guy, coming into a really good dman, steal for 1-1.5/per
Kurtis Foster - Big body, booming shot, this guy I could see being picked up for 1.5per

I think Biron will be our backup for what he made this season, I see it coming down to Biron, Theodore, or Nittymaki. Theodore I could see if he takes a big pay cut and is comfortbale with the backup role. When he is on his game, he is on.

I would love to let Pleks go if it meant signing Kovalchuk. The one thing is they would probably want another reliable winger on the line with Kovalchuk rather than just having Eller who could possibly become a NHL regular next season if this happened, and Pouliot who will be coming back from injuries and hopefully get scoring again. All and all who ever is on the line with Kovalchuk though, he will more than likely make them better, playmaking wise. Eller I would love to see him and Kovalchuk with their size playing together.

Darche will probably be let go IMO. Maxwell will slip into that spot unless he is dealt in a deal at the draft or upcoming free agency.

The toughest part though hands down is moving Hamr. It could be possible but again thats where Maxwell and a pick might come in handy. Package it together and we could be looking at something like a team desperately looking for a top 4 dman. San Jose lost Blake, Anaheim might lose Neidemayer. Islanders could use the veteran leadership on the backend, not saying its impossible just will be very difficult.

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